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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThey are runnin' GAME on us, plain and simple
The kGOPb wants...no...it...NEEDS the governorship in the Commonwealth of VA that they are running *GAME*
They are trying to get us in a circular firing squad...so everybody goes down.
They are trying to use our moral absolutism against us...so that everybody goes down.
They are trying to sow chaos...so that everybody goes down.
They are preemptively manipulating the narrative...so that everybody goes down.
We were able to overcome all of the Russian shenanigans in the midterms by not letting their noise effect us. To each and every elected official in VA...STAND YOUR FUCKING GROUND.
WE NEED TO STAND TOGETHER....or else everybody goes down.
dalton99a
(81,065 posts)Don't let that happen.
The Democratic Party is not about morality or perfection. And the world is shades of gray, not black and white.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)we are stronger together.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)theboss
(10,491 posts)Own that shit.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)Blaukraut
(5,689 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)theboss
(10,491 posts)Just a thought.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)in the first place.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)and the next and the next.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)theboss
(10,491 posts)In the future, let's not nominate people who have dressed in black face and then offer weird lies explaining it and/or demand that other fucking people who wore black face should resign.
My God in Heaven.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)In the future, we wait for FACTS and don't rush to judgement...even if someone keeps following us around about it.
theboss
(10,491 posts)Did they do it? Yep.
No further questions.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)No further questions? Ummmm....No further answers are required for you either.
MrGrieves
(315 posts)Blackface is wrong. Plainly. But it will always be something. Someone told an insensitive joke. Someone mocked someone....
We are being made a victim of our own calls for civility and common decency. That's how they are riling up their base by making our calls for human decency a negative. In doing this they put into people's minds that it is better to just do this out in the open rather than be the party that calls out indecency only to have individuals in that party not measure up to that standard.
We are targeted BECAUSE we call for decency even knowing that there are those among us (perhaps all of us) that cannot possibly measure up in all regards. On a broader scope they would ridicule us for calling to make our country a more perfect union because we will undoubtedly have missteps.
Flies in the ointment.
theboss
(10,491 posts)Jesus Christ.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)theboss
(10,491 posts)Unless something really weird has happened.
I can respect some caution involving Fairfax.
George II
(67,782 posts)MrGrieves
(315 posts)Dude. No.
Kingofalldems
(38,359 posts)theboss
(10,491 posts)I'm weird like that.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)Fool me once and all...
theboss
(10,491 posts)They can go piss up a rope.
Fairfax is, admittedly, trickier. Of course, if he were a Republican, we would be demanding his arrest. (Anyone here who denies this is lying).
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)Oh, good grief.
theboss
(10,491 posts)The fact that he is black makes that a total impossibility of course.
(I predate Trump by decades in giving people insulting nicknames).
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,359 posts)The Sen. Franken deal was a hit job. And some DUers along with some out and out RW trolls were all over this site demanding he resign.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)lame54
(35,130 posts)This may be actual evidence that the right just happens to have
Plus - I can't get past that Northam WAS ABOUT TO moonwalk
Hekate
(90,189 posts)...unless all of us wake up.
Seriously, so what?
I don't understand why it's better to go into 2020 and 2021 with two racists and an accused rapist in power in Richmond than it is clear the decks now and come back fresh with people who aren't racists and accused rapists.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)You're welcome.
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Baltimike
(4,123 posts)Hekate
(90,189 posts)theboss
(10,491 posts)That's a Seinfeld plot.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)But thanks for trying to reduce it to a sitcom plot.
theboss
(10,491 posts)I have a strong "no blackface" stance.
She is the one that wants a criminal court to handle this.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,704 posts)Baltimike
(4,123 posts)Preemptive the narrative be implying that our standards today were their (Republican) standards THEN.
And that just isn't the case.
theboss
(10,491 posts)I was pretty woke.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,704 posts)Also, Herring was proactive and didn't dissemble like Northam. He was also nineteen and not twenty five.
theboss
(10,491 posts)Herring pisses me off, because he demanded Notham resign immediately and apparently someone had to remind me of his own dance with black face.
So fuck that guy too. Stupidity insults me as well.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,704 posts)I desperately want the allegations against him not to be true.
I'm not looking for moral perfection, just don't do racist shit, don't be rapey, et cetera.
theboss
(10,491 posts)It's hard for me to think fellow Princetonians are horrible liars unless they are named Ted Cruz. So, I have a weird tribal affiliation with her.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,704 posts)As to Ms. Tyson she's an African American Democratic feminist activist. Paula Jones she is not.
I will be distraught if her allegations are true.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,704 posts)We
won 40 House seats
won 367 state legislative seats
won 23 out of 35 Senate races
flipped six state House
picked up seven governors
elected the most diverse House class in history precisely because women and people of color correctly identified we aren't them. Anything that blurs the distinction hurts our brand.
P.S "No Dice", CalidDSB
theboss
(10,491 posts)I don't see politics as the next six months down the road as everyone else does here. I was here during the Bush years when people here literally believed that Karl Rove could control the weather. Seriously. I remember the discussions of hurricane machines and shit. We had to fight Bush with our hair on fire on every front at all times because the future of the republic was at stake.
Now we like Bush more than the Republicans do. Funny world.
Here's the point. I firmly believe that demographics is destiny. And the losses of House seats and statehouses and so forth during the Obama years was more of America adjusting to new demographics. I'm hoping that 2018 was us actually figuring out how to manage and activate our new demography which is very very brown and very very female.
Going to the wall defending two racists and an accused rapist seems very short-sighted considering who our voters actually are. If we lost the state house for two years so be it. I trust we can win it back. Virginia is a weird state electorally anyway.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)more elections.
theboss
(10,491 posts)Funny that.
I have always been right on this by the way. I was a pariah mainly because I'm a jerk. But I thought all the black box voting/Diebold stuff was just nonsense. Republicans were never going to steal elections by rigging voting machines. And if they did, they deserved it, because frankly, that was always OUR thing.
No, Republicans were going to steal elections by making it damn near impossible to vote.
And lo and behold my wife went online in 2016 and was told she couldn't vote because we had moved and she had forgotten to update her registration 30 days before the election.
We're in Texas so it didn't matter much, but it would have mattered in 2018 when my state delegate (a Dem) won by 138 votes.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)Baltimike
(4,123 posts)scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)we will be redistricting and if we get out the vote Dems will prevail in the next election
stand tight, hold on shut out the Repubs
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)theboss
(10,491 posts)All while under indictment.
Maybe he had the weather machine all along.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)maxrandb
(15,188 posts)They only maintained a slim one vote majority due to gerrymandering and a tie vote going to a Retrumplican when their name was pulled out of a hat.
Like Patton knew about Sicily... Virginia is the key for them. VA statehouse goes blue, North Carolina will be next.
Virginia is their southern firewall. They will stop at nothing to hang on to power here.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)bdamomma
(63,650 posts)nt
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I don't think they will get Herring. If Northam and Fairfax quit, Herring becomes Governor and picks his second. The republican Speaker is next in line after Herring.
I view what Herring did as youthful indescretion that had no elements of hate in it, even when he wore Brownface to mimic rappers whose music he enjoyed playing.
Blue Owl
(49,902 posts)Repeat: Do not fall for their fuckery!
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)they don't have crap that can be uncovered and exploited for political gain. We need people with impeccable records running for us, or at least people that take care of crap like this head-on as soon as they announce.
Baltimike
(4,123 posts)don't let it happen.
STAND STRONG VA GOVERNOR AND LT GOVERNOR