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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Let's Eat Our Own," the game.
I've noticed people here have been playing the game, I refuse to play because the only way we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves.
So far people have played the game with Bernie Sanders which stokes the animosities that existed way back in the 2015 primaries.
People have played the game here with Tulsi Gabbard.
People have played the game here with Elizabeth Warren.
People have played the game with Kirsten Gillibrand.
We Democrats will never learn. It turns out that we are prone to propaganda just like people on the right are.
Kamala Harris seems to be one of the favorites, maybe "the" favorite here on DU. It's just a matter of time before people here play the game with her, I mean she is not a perfect candidate, that's my point, none of our candidates are perfect. Is it too much to ask of Democrats to back all of our candidates, even with the baggage they all carry?
I'm wasting my time I'm afraid, let the games begin anew, who's next?
912gdm
(959 posts)inception bro.
watoos
(7,142 posts)First off, I don't think I'm your bro, or was that a reference to the Russian created Bernie bros? You are looking the other way if you don't believe that there are still lingering animosities between Hillary and Bernie supporters.
It's a fact that Bernie has been attacked here, that's a fact, I didn't play that game.
The other candidates I mentioned were also attacked here, I didn't play those games either.
I repeat, I didn't make the game, I merely gave a name to what I see going on.
betsuni
(25,465 posts)"So far people have played the game with Bernie Sanders which stokes the animosities that existed way back in the 2015 primaries."
watoos
(7,142 posts)there is nothing wrong with that. Bernie, I don't believe has declared yet, with that said, there are posts here that have attacked Bernie, to what purpose? Go and read the attacks here on Bernie, they refer back to the 2015 primaries. You bet I'm defending Bernie, I don't plan on voting for him but if he is our nominee I will certainly vote for him. What I mean is that I have no problem with anyone saying I'm not voting for whoever, I just said I don't plan on voting for Bernie. I didn't bash him or bring up his faults because I'm a Democrat, that's a job for Republicans.
I'm just stating what I see going on here; Tulsi, Gillibrand, and Warren have also been attacked here, isn't that "eating our own?"
betsuni
(25,465 posts)"It is not good enough to have a liberal elite. I come from the white working class, and I am deeply humiliated that the Democratic Party cannot talk to where I come from."
"The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last fifteen years or so has been a failure."
"The Democratic Party has been dominated by wealthy campaign contributors. They gotta open the door to people who work with their hands, people who take showers at the end of the day, not the beginning of the day."
"We need a Democratic Party that is not a liberal elite but of the working class of this country."
"My feeling is that the Democratic Party is ideologically bankrupt."
"The people of Detroit know the real cost of Hillary Clinton's free-trade policies."
"And I think what Trump was able to do was pick up on the failures of the Democratic Party that did not talk about the fact that hard-working decent people saw their jobs going to Mexico or China ... ."
"Democrats have focused too much with a liberal elite that is raising incredible sums of money form wealthy people ... but has ignored to a very significant degree, working class, middle class, and low income people in this country."
To what purpose?
Locrian
(4,522 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Arguing, disagreeing and disliking is how the thing works. Primaries are elections, debates are going to get heated and you might as well try and stop the moon from rising.
manor321
(3,344 posts)These types of threads are so fucking ridiculous. We aren't a goddamned cult!
watoos
(7,142 posts)why would he? Saudi Arabia and Israel stood much more to gain with getting the US to invade Syria.
Now I guess you can feel free to attack me because I feel the same as Tulsi regarding Syria. We armed al-Qaeda because they promised to oust Assad.
Don't forget, every Democratic member of the House was wrong about invading Iraq, only one was right, Barbara Lee. History repeats itself.
The ousting of Assad was about oil and gas pipelines that were to deliver Saudi oil and Qatari gas through Turkey to the EU. Assad refused to give permission for those pipelines to cross his country.
The pipeline that was built is the Iraq-Iran-Syria gas pipeline that will supply gas to the EU.
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Please advise us all as to how we should conduct ourselves in the upcoming Primary.
watoos
(7,142 posts)attack your favorite candidate?
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)and vote for whichever dem wins.