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Its been a full five weeks since Tidying Up with Marie Kondo debuted on Netflix, yet folks cant seem to stop airing their distaste for the 34-year-old organizing consultant. What is it about the queen of clean that makes people so consistently messy?
In her 2011 book The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up, Kondo writes: Dont focus on reducing, or on efficient storage methods, for that matter. Focus instead on choosing the things that inspire joy and on enjoying life according to your own standards. The goal is to reach your own personal click-point, where you feel at ease with all you have. For a shoe lover, it might be one hundred pairs of shoes, while a book lover might not need anything but books.
Kondos KonMari Method draws inspiration from Shintoism, where cleaning is regarded as mental cultivation. Her book, which is both straightforward and humorously self-effacing, held a top spot for over 86 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list and has sold more than two million copies worldwide. Her brand, KonMari, is now a booming business that even trains and deploys its own consultants.
The idea that we should maybe look at the sum total of our belongings and decide if were happy is not a controversial or even new idea. How many men have taken Tyler Durdens the things you own, end up owning you or Jordan Petersons clean your room as gospel? Joshua Fields Millburn and Ryan Nicodemus are the producers behind Netflixs Minimalism, and at TEDxFargo Millburn gave an entire talk about rummaging around his apartment, retaining only the things that added value to my life... as a minimalist, every possession serves a purpose or brings me joy, and everything else is out of the way. Yet with the premiere of Kondos Netflix show, shes become the subject of critical think pieces and sneering; when a white man articulates these ideas, people applaud.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/the-racist-backlash-against-marie-kondo-of-netflixs-tidying-up/ar-BBTk9fp?li=BBnbfcL
For Christ fucking sakes if you don't like something don't watch it. It's pretty easy.
marlakay
(11,443 posts)As a kid and has struggled in her adult life to keep house clean started watching this show.
She is 37 and for first time room by room she is getting clean, organized and giving things away she isnt using, which is also big because she used to have too much of everything and boxes in storage and closets stuffed.
We do a joint text with my 90 yr old mom, me and my two late 30s daughters and she sent us all pictures of what she has done so far.
Her house looks great I have seen all but boys rooms 13 & 11, they are like hurricane hit them always so day she figures that out she will have won! Lol
So too heck with the haters, she is helping!!
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Going racist over her decluttering advice is just bizarre. Her position on books is troubling, but her being Japanese is a nonstarter for any point of criticism. The hell is wrong with people?
ansible
(1,718 posts)Pretty weird to come from her of all people
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Never heard of her, looked her up, and yeah it definitely strikes me as a very odd thing coming from her based on what I've read about her.
Fun fact: Her last name is German/Jewish. Not English. She should get a more English name. Makes as much sense.
Leith
(7,808 posts)In fact, it comes from the samurai (warrior) class. I knew a Japanese family in Tokyo with that surname.
What got me was her given name - Marie? I just looked it up. Wikipedia has her name in kanji (Chinese characters). It's Japanese, too, and is pronounced "ma-ree-ay" (well, that's pretty close). That's not a common name, but oh well. I once knew a Japanese girl named Naomi. Her parents had heard of the name from an English source and liked it.
Good on her for finding a niche and doing well with it. It's not my thing so I watch and read other things.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)My first name is of Jewish origin (I'm not Jewish but that's irrelevant) and Rose comes from Clan Rose of Scotland (not to be confused with Clan Rose of Ireland) after the Norman invasion of the British Isles ("rose" itself derives from Norman language).
Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)I love watching her enthusiasm and sincerity. She genuinely enjoys helping people.
The racist haters can f*ck off.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)I have used her methods and it makes a huge difference.
Having a home not cluttered with crap is wonderful. And dont worry I still have a lot of stuff its just stuff the I love and brings me joy.
I hope Netflix does more episodes with her.
madaboutharry
(40,199 posts)I am now so proud of my closets and love the way my drawers look. Now I am onto books.
I think there is a lot of deep envy and jealousy. She has become fabulously wealthy and has built an empire. Some people resent that and actually besmirch success in others.
Here is a true story. Years ago, back in the 1980's, my father knew a man who won 9 million dollars in the lottery in California. They travelled in the same business circles. When my dad meet up with him after he had won the lottery, he congratulated him and told him how happy he was for him. (He knew this man had had a lot of sad stuff happen in his life.) Here is the kicker, he told my father that he was the only one who congratulated him. When I asked my dad why he thought that was he said some people just can't stand to see other people get lucky and rich.
I really don't know what to say about the racist stuff. I never understood that.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)The fact that she doesn't speak English and everything has to be translated by a third person is very distracting to me. I don't know any way around it, but it makes the show hard for me to watch.
But I've practically memorized her book, adopted many of her techniques, and it made a real difference.
hlthe2b
(102,188 posts)was wasted with the extended hugging/greetings between home-owner and both Kondo and interpreter. The first couple of times it was charming, but then it just got ridiculous. For me, the viewer, I could not fathom what help she was providing....
I suspect the book may provide more "structure" and thus motivation...
Croney
(4,657 posts)My linen closet was a mess, full of sheets I no longer had beds for, dingy curtains I "might need again some day," towels that "would be good for rags."
I got rid of everything that did not spark joy. Now I've started on stuffed animals "the grandkids might still be attached to."
It's so freeing!
hlthe2b
(102,188 posts)It has been so many decades, but I still remember the big box of classic vintage children's books my grandmother used to have and which all of the grandkids loved to spend time with. When she got rid of those, I'd have given anything to have even one--not to mention the value on ebay...LOL Obviously that wasn't something she likely would have realized, but those vintage books were really wonderful and largely out of print or the most $$$ of collectibles.
I know we shouldn't set up hoarding tendencies in our kids, but nostalgia and the comfort we get from it is not a bad thing in moderation...
Even a photo of some of those old items can fill the urge for the nostalgia, so that might be another consideration...
Croney
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The grandkids are at my house frequently and I remind them that all the plush toys and Beanie Babies are soon going to better homes, and they don't care. I will keep some that I think they might want for their kids, but it won't be many.
I have a box of a hundred Little Golden Books my daughter collected years ago (not rare ones) and I checked eBay. I'd have to sell them as a lot for fifty bucks or less, and they might not even sell at all. So I'll keep the best 20 and donate the rest.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I live in a studio, so I don't have the opportunity to collect a lot of stuff for lack of space, but I still have too much "stuff". Mostly clothes. I really want to get rid of things since I feel burdened by having too many things and would like to give it to homeless shelters. My building does a semi-annual collection, but I just couldn't get it together before. However, I am definitely going to watch Marie and gear up for the next drive.
I have a lot of nice things, some of which I have never even worn, but there is a good chance that I won't miss it. Someone else will make better use of it than I will. I am one of those people who likes to wear the same limited items over and over again.
Croney
(4,657 posts)I guarantee that by the time you've watched her method, you'll be inspired to let those clothes go! I haven't tackled mine yet but it's coming.