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mucifer

(23,535 posts)
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 12:52 PM Feb 2019

Just a reminder regarding Bezos. He is the billionaire he is because of corporate welfare

He has pitted city against city and received a free media blitz for who can give him the most money to bring jobs to their city. It's trickle down economics plain and simple.

It's wonderful he is battling trump.

It's wonderful some of trump's cronies might end up in prison for the evidence Bezos has brought forward.

It's wonderful he bought the WaPo and is supporting the crucial investigative journalism which hopefully will play a part in saving our nation.

But, don't forget he has way more money and power than anyone should have and he doesn't seem to care that so many have to suffer so that he can have that money and power.

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Just a reminder regarding Bezos. He is the billionaire he is because of corporate welfare (Original Post) mucifer Feb 2019 OP
Are you upset because he has money and power... ADX Feb 2019 #1
He's a mixed bag and I want to point out he is playing the system for greed and power. He also is mucifer Feb 2019 #2
Well, that's just a heck of a way to talk about todays latest saint and savior. Shame. Just...shame. ret5hd Feb 2019 #3
He's certainly not perfect... ADX Feb 2019 #5
Mucifer didn't say they were upset. Why characterize mucifer's post as emotional when it isn't? FreepFryer Feb 2019 #4
Stop being so literal... ADX Feb 2019 #6
Again, making it personal instead of taking it in w an open mind. Bye. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2019 #9
I didn't make it personal... ADX Feb 2019 #10
"Are you upset because" is a rather personal impersonal question, and you asked twice. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2019 #11
Yeah, and neither one of those times did I ask it of you... ADX Feb 2019 #13
Gaslighting sometimes calls for a response even when u withdraw from the gaslighter. nt FreepFryer Feb 2019 #15
Well, since you put it like that... ADX Feb 2019 #16
Classic! Thanks for the validation. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2019 #17
If that was the only reason, there would be A LOT more Billionaires fescuerescue Feb 2019 #7
Oh, I'm not going to give Bezos a pass PatSeg Feb 2019 #8
exactly........ Takket Feb 2019 #12
Exactly PatSeg Feb 2019 #18
Those wages are Bezos issues. He could be more like Costco. He chooses to be greedy. mucifer Feb 2019 #19
it isn't just a choice. He is ALLOWED to be greedy. That is the problem Takket Feb 2019 #20
Bezos is the wealthiest man on the planet because he harnessed Hortensis Feb 2019 #14
K&R ck4829 Feb 2019 #21
 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
1. Are you upset because he has money and power...
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 12:55 PM
Feb 2019

...or are you upset because of your perception of how he attained it?

mucifer

(23,535 posts)
2. He's a mixed bag and I want to point out he is playing the system for greed and power. He also is
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 12:58 PM
Feb 2019

helping our country for standing up to trump.

I also think he will probably fight against dems if they go after changing the system.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
3. Well, that's just a heck of a way to talk about todays latest saint and savior. Shame. Just...shame.
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:02 PM
Feb 2019

But I do agree.

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
5. He's certainly not perfect...
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:14 PM
Feb 2019

...but as far as I'm concerned, he's still one of "ours" and I'd rather have him on our team than playing for the other side.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
4. Mucifer didn't say they were upset. Why characterize mucifer's post as emotional when it isn't?
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:03 PM
Feb 2019

You can respond to the argument without characterizing the arguer’s emotional state. It’s diminishing, reminding me of this recent exchange:

”Do you know what kind of damage has been done to children and families across this country?” Rep. Jayapal pressed. “Children who will never get to see their parents again? Do you understand the magnitude of that?”

“Congresswoman, I appreciate your passion for this issue and I know that you’ve been very involved in the frontline.” replied Whitaker.

“This is about more than my passion,” Jayapal interrupted. “This is about the children’s future, Mr. Whitaker. Please answer.”
 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
6. Stop being so literal...
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:16 PM
Feb 2019

...Mucifer didn't seem to take offense to the way I stated my question so why should you?

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
10. I didn't make it personal...
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:06 PM
Feb 2019

...You took it personal, even though my comment wasn't even directed to you. Have a great day...

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
13. Yeah, and neither one of those times did I ask it of you...
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:36 PM
Feb 2019

...so unless and until the person I directed my comment to sees fit to object, I'm not going to worry myself too much about it and neither should you.

Didn't you say "bye" a while ago?

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
16. Well, since you put it like that...
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

...I will now be withdrawing from you because your continued gaslighting isn't worthy of any further response.

Cheerio, ol' chap...

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
7. If that was the only reason, there would be A LOT more Billionaires
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:20 PM
Feb 2019

As a fan of online commerce, I don't really understand the hatred for this guy.

I can't even guess that amount of money, time and carbon footprint (driving) I have saved by buying online via Amazon.

PatSeg

(47,415 posts)
8. Oh, I'm not going to give Bezos a pass
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 01:22 PM
Feb 2019

He is the CEO who would not quit advertising on Breitbart in spite of the many complaints and petitions urging him to do so. He wouldn't even acknowledge his customers' concerns. There were numerous message boards on Amazon about the issue and his response was to take down all the message boards.

The man is not a hero, but I will definitely give him credit for what he is doing right now.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
12. exactly........
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:33 PM
Feb 2019

I think people like Bezos should be paying WAY more in taxes and be paying their employees a living wage.......... but those are political issues, not Bezos issues. I can't hate a person for taking advantage of HORRIBLE laws put in place by the GOP.

I wish amazon would have fair labor practices simply because it is the right thing to do... but that is EVERY company. We need to VOTE the right people in to get the changes we need.

THAT BEING SAID.......... in this day and age, with a traitor in the white house...... i'm perfectly fine with accepting that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and working with anyone and everyone that will help bring down drumpf and his cabal.

PatSeg

(47,415 posts)
18. Exactly
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 04:59 PM
Feb 2019

Watching him take down The National Enquirer is absolutely delicious and knowing how it is freaking out Trump is a dream come true. It is bad enough that Bezos has the advantage, he is also the richest man in the world, something Trump can only dream of. Trump can lash out and call Bezos silly petty names, but it all just rolls right off.

So I will cheer Bezos on right now, but when it is over, I'll be at the front of line criticizing him as I've done in the past.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
20. it isn't just a choice. He is ALLOWED to be greedy. That is the problem
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 08:08 PM
Feb 2019

if you are waiting for business owners to start reaching into their pockets to pay a living wage you are going to be waiting forever. That's why I said these are "political" issues, not bezos issues.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Bezos is the wealthiest man on the planet because he harnessed
Sat Feb 9, 2019, 03:42 PM
Feb 2019

technology and turned it into a product billions of people around the planet want and need. Including many thousands of small business owners who are supporting their families well by selling through Amazon. If he didn't, someone else would have. Oh, wait a second, many others also have. He's just the biggest.

Don't like the costs and various tradeoffs? Vote. Vote every time for people who believe in sensible protective controls to keep nations and their consumers and workers -- and businesses -- healthy, stable and prosperous.

I do, and it's not Bezos I blame because shirkers have not bothered to regulate him and have allowed him to become far too powerful for our own good.

And now, over a half hour's fast drive away from edges of the nearest mediocre shopping district that I won't be making, I'm going to go shopping for a new case for my new iphone. Big job sifting through even a fraction of the choices in my price range, but I can't afford to pay someone to shop the world for me. Sigh. While I'm there expect I'll browse the books a while, even though John Dingell's autobiography is due to arrive tomorrow.

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