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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:42 PM Feb 2019

Trump: Having a dog "feels a little phony to me. Obama had a dog."

Aaron Rupar

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Trump muses about having a dog at the White House, but concludes "it feels a little phony to me."

"That's not the relationship I have with my people... Obama had a dog."


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Trump: Having a dog "feels a little phony to me. Obama had a dog." (Original Post) Miles Archer Feb 2019 OP
He should be barred from owning pets. Period. spanone Feb 2019 #1
Is this a pep rally or group therapy? irisblue Feb 2019 #2
Like a Klan rally but out of control. mobeau69 Feb 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #56
I'm happy for the dog. lkinwi Feb 2019 #3
+ struggle4progress Feb 2019 #13
Absolutely. Arkansas Granny Feb 2019 #60
me too SoCalDem Feb 2019 #72
Jeez...a man who hates dogs. And I thought one couldn't think any lower of this a'hole. n/t Liberal In Texas Feb 2019 #4
I frequently make the point PatSeg Feb 2019 #29
If he gets a dog millions will call the ASPCA within minutes. BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #5
Not phony Glamrock Feb 2019 #6
Maybe, just maybe if he had a dog, he would be a kinder person..If not, Stuart G Feb 2019 #7
A few times over the last 2 miserable years I've read that his dad wouldn't let him have pets... 912gdm Feb 2019 #30
No Stuart, he will never be a kind person irisblue Feb 2019 #42
No. He doesn't deserve a dog. They are pure love. He is pure evil. onecaliberal Feb 2019 #53
Yeah but this new fangled high tech dog is pretty cool underpants Feb 2019 #8
You get a heart for that! I needed a laugh. sinkingfeeling Feb 2019 #39
Why get a dog when he has Lindsey Graham. GreatCaesarsGhost Feb 2019 #9
Mitch too bdamomma Feb 2019 #14
Touche! True Dough Feb 2019 #73
He is unfit to own an ant farm. dalton99a Feb 2019 #10
Finally, something that feels "phony" to him. Ilsa Feb 2019 #11
Phony???? bdamomma Feb 2019 #12
Dog wouldn't care about you either, Corgigal Feb 2019 #16
HITLER loved his German Shepherd dogs. NanceGreggs Feb 2019 #17
spooky weird, 912gdm Feb 2019 #31
Oddly, or not, 45 went on at length about German Shepherds. nolabear Feb 2019 #66
If you are unable to understand the concept of love Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2019 #18
No dog would put up with trump Gothmog Feb 2019 #19
If babies are afraid of him, I can only imagine how dogs would react! Initech Feb 2019 #25
even Bald Eagles know Trump is a phony DBoon Feb 2019 #38
I believe he's never had a pet ... ever. rickford66 Feb 2019 #20
He's kind of a germaphobe, isn't he? TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #24
Keith Olberman did a piece on this. rickford66 Feb 2019 #37
That was great! smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #68
Wow. Xolodno Feb 2019 #21
Ditto. I'd love a dog but if you travel it's hard to find a caregiver that doesn't cost money kimbutgar Feb 2019 #40
Trump is the kind of guy who seems like he would get his jollies from torturing puppies. Initech Feb 2019 #22
he threw rocks at infants in their play pens demtenjeep Feb 2019 #59
Red is the new White. nt Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #23
Sounds like went totally mad tonight. mobeau69 Feb 2019 #26
Obama had a dog...and both Bushes, Clinton, Reagan... Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #27
Well, actually he does have a pet. Doreen Feb 2019 #34
Oh, okay, I thought you were going to say it was Eric Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #46
Uhmm yeah, I think you are right. Doreen Feb 2019 #50
Well, he does keep Eric chained up under the staircase. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #71
He can only think of having a pet as a prop. TDale313 Feb 2019 #28
Yes, he thought is was "low-class" of the Pences to bring their pets with them. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #69
Dogs read human behavior really well. No dog would trust Trump or want to be around him, no RockRaven Feb 2019 #32
yes, a dog would immediately pick up that Trump is a phony DBoon Feb 2019 #35
I find it fascinating that his answer to the question TDale313 Feb 2019 #44
It seems like everything he does is trying to get other people to think about him in the desired way RockRaven Feb 2019 #61
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #70
That is the first time I have heard him say anything correct. Doreen Feb 2019 #33
I hope a dog bites off his one remaining testicle world wide wally Feb 2019 #36
This from a guy who has zero problem walking around with phony hair and skin. BlueStater Feb 2019 #41
He doesn't need a dog, he has Dense. nt mobeau69 Feb 2019 #43
Going after the anti-dog vote? DesertRat Feb 2019 #45
He is insane. Marie Marie Feb 2019 #47
Ivana said in her book kskiska Feb 2019 #48
Not just Obama, every President in the last 130 years Flaleftist Feb 2019 #49
He doesn't have a dog because: Goodheart Feb 2019 #51
He has no heart Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #57
he should know phony if anyone does Kali Feb 2019 #52
Not surprised the Trumpster said this. BlueDawn Feb 2019 #54
Welcome BlueDawn MustLoveBeagles Feb 2019 #62
Thanks, MustLoveBeagles! BlueDawn Feb 2019 #74
Christ on a tortilla, even Hitler loved animals Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #55
I feel a great sense of relief Blue1963 Feb 2019 #58
I think Trump would abuse an animal. Solly Mack Feb 2019 #63
He's too scared of a dog's honesty Blue Owl Feb 2019 #64
Not surprising. His sons probably kill them in the backyard kysrsoze Feb 2019 #65
Dogs everywhere should... 3catwoman3 Feb 2019 #67

Response to irisblue (Reply #2)

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
72. me too
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:19 AM
Feb 2019

That poor pooch would be trying to run off all the time..

The staffers would probably enjoy having an intelligent being around though

PatSeg

(47,168 posts)
29. I frequently make the point
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:02 AM
Feb 2019

that at least GW Bush treated his dogs well and was a caring husband and father. Trump, however, has absolutely ZERO redeeming qualities. And I have no doubt that there is not a single person on this planet who even likes the man.

Stuart G

(38,403 posts)
7. Maybe, just maybe if he had a dog, he would be a kinder person..If not,
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:50 PM
Feb 2019

then they could take the dog away. It might be worth a chance. ?

912gdm

(959 posts)
30. A few times over the last 2 miserable years I've read that his dad wouldn't let him have pets...
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:02 AM
Feb 2019

I think that is a big chunk of his problem right there.

Ilsa

(61,687 posts)
11. Finally, something that feels "phony" to him.
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:51 PM
Feb 2019

It's believable that the sincere affection of a dog feels phony to trump. He clearly doesn't understand non-transactional, sincere love.

bdamomma

(63,773 posts)
12. Phony????
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:51 PM
Feb 2019

does he know he's the biggest phony, and dog hater. I hate what he has done to our country. Fucking idiot.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
16. Dog wouldn't care about you either,
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:53 PM
Feb 2019

however your child would be healthier with one. That means you would have to place yourself second.

By the way, no one is watching you. Westminster dog show is on.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
17. HITLER loved his German Shepherd dogs.
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:54 PM
Feb 2019

Never thought I'd be pointing out that Der Fuhrer had a redeeming quality (his love of dogs) that the current "pResident" is incapable of.

nolabear

(41,926 posts)
66. Oddly, or not, 45 went on at length about German Shepherds.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:50 AM
Feb 2019

He was all aflutter over the German Shepherd drug sniffing dogs at the border and talked about how great they were.

Creepy, huh?

rickford66

(5,520 posts)
20. I believe he's never had a pet ... ever.
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:56 PM
Feb 2019

Also, dog lovers really love their dogs and I suspect there are more than a few dog lovers in his cult. He's slowly attacking every conceivable group possible. What's next ... left handed people ?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,116 posts)
24. He's kind of a germaphobe, isn't he?
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:59 PM
Feb 2019

That alone would probably nix having a pet. Poor Barron. Having an old dad like that and essentially being an only child, hed probably love to have a puppy.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
68. That was great!
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:12 AM
Feb 2019

"Hey Don, Fuck You!"

If you insult dogs, you insult me. What the hell is wrong with that man? Even Hitler liked dogs.

Xolodno

(6,381 posts)
21. Wow.
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:57 PM
Feb 2019

We don't have a dog for two reasons...

1. We travel a lot. So finding a sitter is going to be hard and expensive.

2. We have two cats, the Alpha Cat hates dogs, he's attacked both of my sister's dogs. Our neighbor's dogs are afraid of him...they will not come in the house when they visit.

3. When we play with neighbors, relatives, friends, etc. dogs....the Alpha Cat gives us the cold shoulder.

Aside from that, we love dogs and would like to have one...but one member of our family has a hard veto on that.

kimbutgar

(21,027 posts)
40. Ditto. I'd love a dog but if you travel it's hard to find a caregiver that doesn't cost money
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:15 AM
Feb 2019

People are ok staying at your house chillin with your “ nice” cat for free.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
59. he threw rocks at infants in their play pens
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:53 AM
Feb 2019

you know he has tortured a pet or two -obviously not his own but other's

mobeau69

(11,128 posts)
26. Sounds like went totally mad tonight.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:00 AM
Feb 2019

John Berman is gonna be funny in the morning!

A cult member attacked someone in the media section and knocked over cameras. Spanky said the rebuke mayor is full of crap and crime went down 97% right after the wall went up.

Does the grand jury meet on Tuesdays?

Clash City Rocker

(3,385 posts)
27. Obama had a dog...and both Bushes, Clinton, Reagan...
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:00 AM
Feb 2019

The last president who didn’t have a dog while in office was McKinley, who had other pets. Almost every president in US history had some sort of pet. Here’s a list...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_pets

Animals have better instincts than people, and as a result, most animals hate Trump. That’s why he doesn’t have a pet.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
34. Well, actually he does have a pet.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:07 AM
Feb 2019

That is not really hair. It is some poor creature ripped away from the Amazons. Can't you tell it is frightened of him? It keeps trying to escape every time he is outside.

Clash City Rocker

(3,385 posts)
46. Oh, okay, I thought you were going to say it was Eric
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:32 AM
Feb 2019

But yeah, it kinda looks like a Pomeranian on his head, doesn’t it? I wouldn’t put it past him.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
50. Uhmm yeah, I think you are right.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:43 AM
Feb 2019

He has two pets. One goes with him everywhere and the other he leaves locked up most of the time.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
28. He can only think of having a pet as a prop.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:01 AM
Feb 2019

There is nothing in him that needs or wants the connection most people get from that relationship. It’s about whether his supporters would see this as a good thing, whether it’s too Obama-like. It’s about the image having a dog would mean.

BTW, he was reportedly furious with the Pences for bringing their pets with them to DC.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
69. Yes, he thought is was "low-class" of the Pences to bring their pets with them.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:18 AM
Feb 2019

FFS, The Queen of England brought her beloved Corgis everywhere with her. I suppose he would call her "low-class" too. Once again, he is projecting his own qualities on to others.

What a sick, blackened soul that man has.

RockRaven

(14,872 posts)
32. Dogs read human behavior really well. No dog would trust Trump or want to be around him, no
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:03 AM
Feb 2019

matter how many hamberders Donald tried to give said dog.

Also Trump is a germophobe, he'd constantly be feeling dirty after touching the dog.

Also Trump is a sociopath, he would not have any emotional connection to the dog.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
44. I find it fascinating that his answer to the question
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:28 AM
Feb 2019

is basically that he doesn’t think it would play well. Like everything else it’s all about the image being a dog owner would convey. The possibility of a connection to another living being seems to never cross his mind. It’s a prop. I am (as others have said) glad he decided this wasn’t a prop he wanted/needed.

RockRaven

(14,872 posts)
61. It seems like everything he does is trying to get other people to think about him in the desired way
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:07 AM
Feb 2019

For example: All that gaudy gold-plated s--t? Does he even truly *like* gold? I mean, for it's *own* sake, independent of the context of what it signifies to others? I'm sure he likes it because he associates it with wealth and success, and he wants people to think he is wealthy and successful, so he wants to be seen with it to create that association... but does he have any internal experience (independent of what other people might think) when he sees gold crap? Does it move him in such a way that he would be similarly affected even if it were worthless to others, but aesthetically identical? I suspect not. He is an empty, empty person. Everything is a performance to get external validation.

The fewer living things put in a position to serve his need for external validation the better.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
70. +1000
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:20 AM
Feb 2019

Everything is about image to him. He is only his image. There is nobody really there. He is an empty shell of a human being.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
33. That is the first time I have heard him say anything correct.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:04 AM
Feb 2019

Well it was not him just the guy who had all of the equipment. dogs still do a better job and you can support 6 for an entire lifetime ( including EVERYTHING ) for the same amount of one of those machines. I did the math once comparing the dogs to the machines they have at the airports and these border machines are more than likely not very different in price. Yes, I am sure they are somewhat more expensive but then since I did that math long ago prices to maintain those dogs for life have gone up.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
48. Ivana said in her book
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:36 AM
Feb 2019

that she had a small poodle when she married him. He hated the dog and wanted her to get rid of it. She refused. The dog slept on her bed. She said she's always had a dog.

Goodheart

(5,307 posts)
51. He doesn't have a dog because:
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:44 AM
Feb 2019

- he doesn't want somebody else in his household to be a target of love. That's what he means by "it's not the relationship I have with my people." The relationship centers around him with room for nothing else.
- he's incapable of loving anybody, anyway.

 

Mr. Quackers

(443 posts)
57. He has no heart
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:48 AM
Feb 2019

he's literally an empty suit.

The people who admire him are broken, deeply flawed people in terms of character.

BlueDawn

(892 posts)
54. Not surprised the Trumpster said this.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:46 AM
Feb 2019

Hi, all....

I am new here to DU but a long-time reader since I discovered you after my wailing and gnashing of teeth the day after Trump was elected.

As for his not liking dogs, I am not one bit surprised. Sadly, my deceased stepfather was exactly like Trump, albeit without the money. He was extremely sadistic and cruel, not only to us four children but also to every pet we ever had. I have seen him hit dogs in the head with a hammer, kick them across the room, and punch them in the face with his fist--among other things. I would hate to think of a man like Trump owning a pet because it would be mistreated.

Trump's saying that having a dog in the White House seems phony to him is laughable (as are most of the things he says). Is there a bigger phony in the world than he?

I'm sure dogs wouldn't like him, either.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,577 posts)
62. Welcome BlueDawn
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:33 AM
Feb 2019

Glad to meet you.

Sorry to hear that about your childhood. Your stepfather sounds awful. I'm glad that Trump doesn't have any pets. There's no doubt in my mind that he would be abusive towards them.

BlueDawn

(892 posts)
74. Thanks, MustLoveBeagles!
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 01:00 AM
Feb 2019

It's nice to meet you, too, MLB!

Thank you for your kind words. Yes, my stepfather was a very messed-up person. He really should never have had any pets....or children. I feel exactly as you do about Trump.

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