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kag

(4,079 posts)
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:40 AM Feb 2019

This just in: Joe Scarborough is an idiot!

So, Morning Mika's Husband took some of his own "executive time" to pen a Washington Post op-ed claiming that Michael Bennet, Colorado's "soft-spoken, white son of the establishment" could be the answer to the Democratic party's prayers. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-bennet-could-be-the-answer-to-the-question-every-democrat-is-asking/2019/02/11/4e90832a-2e2d-11e9-86ab-5d02109aeb01_story.html?utm_term=.acd760d6f119)

Leave it to proud ex-Republican to try to sell us on a conservative white, straight, middle-aged corporatist as the "savior" of the party he loves to preach to but would never join. Michael Bennet gave one good speech (and I'll give it to him--it was a good speech) on the senate floor, and all of a sudden he's supposed to eclipse the likes of Kamala Harris and Sherrod Brown as the one senator who can beat the Idiot Cheetoh because he's...what...so much like him?

Michael Bennet, just like Trump, knows what it's like to have everything handed to him. He only won his senate seat because he got to run as an incumbent, having been appointed by then-Governor Bill Ritter to fill a vacancy. And Ritter only plucked Bennet from the Superintendent of Denver Public Schools job (a position he was appointed to despite having ZERO school administration experience) because he (Ritter) had some personal grudge against the wildly popular Andrew Romanoff, former Speaker of the Colorado House of Representatives. And despite Romanoff having clobbered Bennet at the state convention, Bennet ended up winning the primary because President Obama, in a move for which I will never forgive him, endorsed Bennet. (Why on earth Obama put his thumb on the scales in a Democratic Primary, I will NEVER understand.)

As Colorado's senator, Michael Bennet has distinguished himself by...well...not distinguishing himself. Until his famous "Ted Cruz is a big meanie" speech, very few people could have named the state he represents. He serves on three rather quiet committees, and his votes tend to be non-controversial, as are the bills he sponsors. In short, he just doesn't seem to want to make news. Now, that might be Scarborough's idea of presidential material, but I personally want a leader who...leads.

I truly don't intend to knock Bennet. As our senator he has been fine. Just fine. (Personally I'm hoping Andrew Romanoff, who just announced a run for Cory Gardner's seat, will make it to the Senate after all. Romanoff is my idea of a real Democrat.) I just think it's kind of rich that Joe fucking Scarborough thinks he knows what the Democratic party "needs." After all, when Joe served in the People's House--as a Republican--he sponsored a bill to withdraw from the United Nations, voted to defund the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and worked to try to impeach Bill Clinton. And I won't even go into his own little intern scandal. Google it.

Joe seems to think that since Bennet isn't a lefty-liberal, that he can "save" the Democratic party. Well, I think that the 2018 elections proved that the party, and indeed the country, is ready for some loud, proud lefty-ness. And frankly, if we want to beat Cheetoh, the last person we should nominate is a milk-toast, "soft-spoken" centrist. If Joe thinks that's what this country needs, let him convince his own former party to nominate Michael Bennet.

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This just in: Joe Scarborough is an idiot! (Original Post) kag Feb 2019 OP
Came to that conclusion a long time ago. Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #1
I was disappointed kag Feb 2019 #2
When they should have flipped him off, and yelled "F--ck you" at the top of their lungs? TrollBuster9090 Feb 2019 #9
Never seen that clip. kag Feb 2019 #10
Joe ain't worth shit on a stick. nt oasis Feb 2019 #3
I thought it was interesting that Sen. Amy Klobuchar last night on Rachel passed on being labeled mnhtnbb Feb 2019 #4
On the idiot screen someone else was pushing a different Hortensis Feb 2019 #5
I absolutely love the show! Oh look what time it is !! nt UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #6
I can barely stand to watch Scarborough. socdem60 Feb 2019 #7
I kind of wish I hadn't read it. kag Feb 2019 #8
I prefer it when they are not on SallyHemmings Feb 2019 #27
There really is no good morning show for progressives.... Sancho Feb 2019 #11
Joy? True Blue American Feb 2019 #13
I agree, there's no really good alternative...sometimes a useful guest shows up. Sancho Feb 2019 #15
But you get to hear Mika sigh & huff and breathlessly report a touching story! oldsoftie Feb 2019 #17
2 minutes this morning sent me to CNN, True Blue American Feb 2019 #12
I only watch when he's not on the show! Callalily Feb 2019 #14
I watch or tape it on Friday! True Blue American Feb 2019 #19
Posts like this one make me very, very nervous. watoos Feb 2019 #16
And if, by chance, he DID win the nomination, wouldn't everyone here vote for him over Dump??? oldsoftie Feb 2019 #18
I would vote True Blue American Feb 2019 #22
Excellent question to ask, watoos Feb 2019 #25
I agree oldsoftie Feb 2019 #34
True! True Blue American Feb 2019 #37
I LIKE Michael Bennet! kag Feb 2019 #44
Geebus... How about we not destroy one of Colorado's Democratic Senators???? hlthe2b Feb 2019 #20
I think Bennett is fine True Blue American Feb 2019 #21
Joe Scab is an ignoramus.. Why the OP is even giving him any regard escapes me. hlthe2b Feb 2019 #23
I'm sad that you think I'm destroying Michael Bennet. kag Feb 2019 #45
thank you for responding... hlthe2b Feb 2019 #49
Boy, do we ever need to replace Gardner. kag Feb 2019 #53
Can I ask you a question True Blue? watoos Feb 2019 #26
Well, i can only remember one True Blue American Feb 2019 #35
I have been waiting on PINS AND NEEDLES to find out who Joe Scarborough has decided bullwinkle428 Feb 2019 #24
Now that deserves a heart. watoos Feb 2019 #29
Thanks for making my day so early in the morning! Favor returned! bullwinkle428 Feb 2019 #38
Glad you didn't post this customerserviceguy Feb 2019 #28
Well said, watoos Feb 2019 #30
You said it! True Blue American Feb 2019 #36
Well, the fact the Joe is utter moron isn't exactly news. kag Feb 2019 #46
I am wary of any Dem that any DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #31
I totally agree! He made the case this morning for another four years for drumpf! mfcorey1 Feb 2019 #32
Not his party get the red out Feb 2019 #33
Yup, it's not his party. But seeing how crazy dangerous trump is has Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #41
I watch Morning Joe while getting ready for work get the red out Feb 2019 #48
Agree, but so what. Not trying to to be flip but why don't people Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #51
This is VERY old news, actually. GoCubsGo Feb 2019 #39
I think joe wants to get trump no matter what. This is a good thing. Some people Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #40
People seem to forget padah513 Feb 2019 #42
Why doesn't MSNBC dump Corgigal Feb 2019 #43
Wish I could rec a comment. kag Feb 2019 #47
Oh he is much worse than that. sellitman Feb 2019 #50
This is all part of the larger narrative that the right wing started pushing in 2016. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #52
Harris-O'Rourke! kag Feb 2019 #54

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. Came to that conclusion a long time ago.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:45 AM
Feb 2019

I don’t waste my time with any of the Breathless, Cable Infotainment.

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
4. I thought it was interesting that Sen. Amy Klobuchar last night on Rachel passed on being labeled
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:53 AM
Feb 2019

moderate and went for wanting to be identified as progressive. She knows which way the party is headed and that the American people seem to be ready for it--as evidenced by the midterms--after the pendulum swing to the far right with Trumpster and his base.

Joe and Mika can both go Cheney themselves.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. On the idiot screen someone else was pushing a different
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:54 AM
Feb 2019

conservative to resuscitate the Democratic Party's critically condition. Will we have the sense to do what we have to to survive until 2020 though?

Seems to me no worry. It's clear that long before then our party will have broken apart from the massive schism developing over Israel.

socdem60

(52 posts)
7. I can barely stand to watch Scarborough.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:03 AM
Feb 2019

His constant interruption when others speak is intolerable, especially when it comes to Mika. Thanks for posting his article, I would never have read it.

kag

(4,079 posts)
8. I kind of wish I hadn't read it.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:09 AM
Feb 2019

Scarborough clearly knows nothing about Colorado politics or about Bennet himself, except for what he read on Wikipedia. And he thinks he can sound like a prescient pundit by reacting to a speech that EVERYONE acknowledged as a very good speech. Honestly, even though I liked what Bennet said, I though his manner and style were awkward and not at all eloquent.

But Scarborough is just a dumb ass.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
11. There really is no good morning show for progressives....
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:48 AM
Feb 2019

...the weekends are slightly better with some options (like AM Joy), but that's about it.

Morning Joke is so bad I can hardly take it, but sometimes we have it on in the background. CNN is usually old rehash, and too much international intrigue. It's really too bad that there's no one willing to get up early.

I don't see Bennet as even in the running.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
13. Joy?
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:53 AM
Feb 2019

Not any more. Her ranting,along with her writings about gays show her to be a hypocrite, too.

MSNBC put her on the back burner when that news came out. Now,she is all over. But honestly cable has driven me away.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
15. I agree, there's no really good alternative...sometimes a useful guest shows up.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:58 AM
Feb 2019

Two hours and horrible content (like last week's discussion of Warren's native background) are nothing but distractions from policy.

I suspect the entire morning segment is open for someone willing to step in...

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
12. 2 minutes this morning sent me to CNN,
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:49 AM
Feb 2019

Then the local news. Rainy, 57 today, 27, snow tomorrow.

Then I actually tuned in to Spectrum 1 where they were giving the real news about my state.

The rise in gas taxes are being used to fix our roads. Instead of car crashes and shootings they actually provide real news from all over the state. Very refreshing .

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
19. I watch or tape it on Friday!
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:22 AM
Feb 2019

Guess who is on? and Nicolle, who actually lets Donny speak!

I am kidding but at least he can be funny when Joe isnot around. Smart,too. Donny is doing ads for Democrats.

Joe actually wants Michael Bennett for Democrats? Another trust fund baby?

Speak of the devil, i just clicked on Joe. Michael is insulting Cruz, but that does not make him what we need.

We need a Biden, Brown, Harris, Beto, Warren, etc..

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
16. Posts like this one make me very, very nervous.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:05 AM
Feb 2019

Here we go again giving purity tests to our people. First off, I don't watch Joe Scum so I don't get upset listening to a Republican.

The only way we lose in 2020 is if we argue among ourselves, is if we eat our own, is if we adhere to purity tests like Republicans do.

Who the hell cares if a Republican endorses Michael Bennett? I don't. Most of the Democratic candidates are farther to the right to suit me but they are great candidates nevertheless. I don't plan on voting for Bennett and I seriously doubt if he is going to get our nomination, so who gives a shit if Joe Scum endorses him?

Why punish yourself by watching morning right wing cable news? I don't start watching cable news until Nicole Wallace's show, then I skip Chuck Toad, I skip Tweety and my blood pressure does just fine.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
25. Excellent question to ask,
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:35 AM
Feb 2019

I certainly would, and he is way farther to the right than I am.

I'm not going to break my vow to argue among ourselves about our candidates, not going to bash any of our candidates.

The only way we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves.

kag

(4,079 posts)
44. I LIKE Michael Bennet!
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:40 PM
Feb 2019

He is a fine senator. I have nothing against him, and he gave a good speech. I don't think he should run for president, but if he got the nomination I would absolutely vote for him!

The person I have a problem with is Joe Full-of-Himself! And for the record, I definitely do NOT watch his show. This great idea of his was in the Washington Post.

Sheesh!

hlthe2b

(102,196 posts)
20. Geebus... How about we not destroy one of Colorado's Democratic Senators????
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:25 AM
Feb 2019

For God's sakes. I may not want Bennett as a Presidential candidate (I don't), but we have a Senatorial race coming up that allows us to knock off Corey Gardner (R wing asshole).

THAT IS OUR FOCUS. Not destroying an acceptable current DEM who isn't up for reelection until 2022.

WHY DO WE DO THE REPUBLICAN'S WORK FOR THEM?

As a lifelong Coloradoan, I'm saying, knock it the hell off!

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
21. I think Bennett is fine
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:28 AM
Feb 2019

But the idea of Joe choosing the Democrat to run is pathetic.

He helped put Trump in office,lest we forget.

It is nothing against Bennett. His voters like him.

hlthe2b

(102,196 posts)
23. Joe Scab is an ignoramus.. Why the OP is even giving him any regard escapes me.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:32 AM
Feb 2019

He has ZERO influence on Democratic politics. Just like when Peter Theil or other conservative RW a'holes write WaPo editorials once a week or so and are promptly ignored as what they are... ignorant RW outlier views and usually poorly written and reasoned, compared to the regular commentators.

kag

(4,079 posts)
45. I'm sad that you think I'm destroying Michael Bennet.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:51 PM
Feb 2019

I actually like him, and I think he gave a great speech on the floor. It doesn't negate the fact that he was handed his seat on a silver platter, and then the whole machine stepped in to make sure he kept it. Nor does it negate that he is a very quiet, unassuming senator who almost never makes news.

I have always liked your posts and always read stuff you put out there. But I truly hope Bennet does not try to run for president. I think we need him to stay right where he is.

Joe, on the other hand, gives morons a bad name. If my rant was attacking anyone, it was him.

hlthe2b

(102,196 posts)
49. thank you for responding...
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:19 PM
Feb 2019

Initially, I did think you were unduly harsh re: Bennett, so thanks for clarifying.

I certainly agree with you that he needs to stay in the Senate, rather than run for President, that we'd like to see a more progressive Dem replace Gardner, and that Joe Scarborough, like all the "NEVER TRUMPERS" do NOT have Democrat's best interest at heart.

I guess where we differ is how Bennett got to the Senate and how relevant it is now. Given he has been a reliable vote for Dem policies and against Trump's agenda, I guess that just doesn't matter a lot to me now.


RW viewpoints on who we should nominate are about as valuable as their views on just about any other issue... i.e., not at all. (and that includes the Never Trumpers, IMO)


kag

(4,079 posts)
53. Boy, do we ever need to replace Gardner.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 02:35 AM
Feb 2019

I noticed immediately after the 2018 election he began inching leftward because he knows CO doesn't want a Trump cheerleader. I just hope voters will see through him.

I guess I do hold a grudge regarding Bennet and the whole Romanoff battle. I'll feel much better if Andrew actually takes Gardner's seat. Now that would be beautiful. I won't hold my breath, but it would be beautiful.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
26. Can I ask you a question True Blue?
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:38 AM
Feb 2019

If you are driving down the road and some idiot pulls out in front of you and you start yelling and hollering at the idiot for cutting you off, who caused you to yell and holler?

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
35. Well, i can only remember one
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:08 AM
Feb 2019

Time I looked directly in the face of a pick up truck driver and said,” Get over on your own side of the road,”! He was going down the middle. I almst had to drive on the sidewalk. Normally I do it under my breath.

Am not sure what you are askng me.

I honestly knew little about Bennett until I watched that clip. And,it was great.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
24. I have been waiting on PINS AND NEEDLES to find out who Joe Scarborough has decided
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:33 AM
Feb 2019

to endorse for the Democratic nomination in 2020!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
28. Glad you didn't post this
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:39 AM
Feb 2019

in Latest Breaking News.

Hey, just because Joey Scar and Mika Mouse got into a pissing match with Cheetolini doesn't mean they're our friends.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
30. Well said,
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:43 AM
Feb 2019

They were quite chummy until Trump made the remark about Mika's face lift and Joe came to her rescue.

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
31. I am wary of any Dem that any
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:45 AM
Feb 2019

Republican endorses or who thinks he or she might make a good president.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
32. I totally agree! He made the case this morning for another four years for drumpf!
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:50 AM
Feb 2019

It has not taken long of some of these talking heads to revert back to their onesided look at elections, including Kornecki hyperventilating with each word.

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
33. Not his party
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:07 AM
Feb 2019

He spent his life being a Republican, he has no clue where the Democratic Party is going, the Primaries will decide that.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
41. Yup, it's not his party. But seeing how crazy dangerous trump is has
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:20 AM
Feb 2019

Taught me a lesson...there are degrees of Republicanism and I don’t want to keep hating on those who are at least trying and questioning his sanity.

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
48. I watch Morning Joe while getting ready for work
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:54 PM
Feb 2019

I just think he may not be the best judge of what Dems want in a candidate.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
51. Agree, but so what. Not trying to to be flip but why don't people
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 12:43 AM
Feb 2019

not just let him be?

Not like we have any other ex-republicans ? (Jury still out on that, he is still on his honeymoon with such a wide voice saying anything that could help us in any way.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
39. This is VERY old news, actually.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:21 AM
Feb 2019

It goes back decades. Many of us first noticed it when he was a Congressman.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
40. I think joe wants to get trump no matter what. This is a good thing. Some people
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:16 AM
Feb 2019

Look at this from through a more pragmatic eye. Who has a better chance to win. Some people know how manaical MF45 has become, sounding like a better approach more and more every day.

padah513

(2,500 posts)
42. People seem to forget
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:24 AM
Feb 2019

That Scarborough would still be in Trump's corner if Trump hadn't blown him off. He and Mika gave Trump more free air time than any other pundit (don't quote me on that) and if they didn't it sure felt like it. Then we learn that he was trying to secure loans because his campaign was running out of money. If he had to spend money on airtime and ads like everyone else instead of getting it for free, maybe he would have bowed out. Thanks Joe!.

That last part is a little tongue in cheek, but think about it. Trump would say something outrageous at one of his rallies and the next day they'd have him on the air. Not just them but all the pundits

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
43. Why doesn't MSNBC dump
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 10:35 AM
Feb 2019

these overpriced talking heads, and give Malcolm Nance a show instead. He understands counter intelligence and we need this input now. We don't need a has been telling us about any election cycle because we have too much riding on it now.

Those above clowns were worthless when it could have mattered. Why they think we've forgotten is on MSNBC. We haven't.

kag

(4,079 posts)
47. Wish I could rec a comment.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:56 PM
Feb 2019

They were worse than worthless. They gave Cheetoh all the airtime he could have ever wanted.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
50. Oh he is much worse than that.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 09:15 PM
Feb 2019

Ask his ex-Intern.

I never watch him and never will. People here have awful short memories.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
52. This is all part of the larger narrative that the right wing started pushing in 2016.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 12:56 AM
Feb 2019

It's the absurd, racist and contradictory "white working class economic anxiety/down with identity politics" bullshit narrative that the right, the media and, sadly, far too many on the left end of the political spectrum (from progressive to centrist) pushed and pushed hard. They're still pushing it. Many on DU have fallen for it.

Right wingers know, whether they admit it or not, that the Republican Party's viability depends upon maintaining racism and sexism. That means that an emphasis on anti-racism and anti-sexism threatens their survival. A diverse and youthful ticket (such as Harris-O'Rourke) that sharply contrasts (in every way) with Trump-Pence is the last thing they want to go up against in 2020.

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