Each day that Northam and Fairfax don't resign is a victory for the rule of law

[Baltimike]

and America.

Northam has got this...but Fairfax needs more protection to keep them from Frankening him.

[mikeysnot]

1. My CT is that they ahd the goods on Fairfax

and started with Northam hoping they could get a three for and Franken them all into resigning at the same time.

My take, Northam stays until King resigns, trump resigns and pense resigns, if they don't then fuck off.

because if Northam has to resign for something from 25 years ago, these guys have to go first for things they are doing now.

[tblue37]

25. 35 years. nt

[mikeysnot]

31. exactly

It probably has been only 35 minutes since trump stated something racist.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

27. That's the way I see it.

They probably had Fairfax and looked for dirt on Northam

[mr_lebowski]

2. Northam has nothing to do with 'the law', and I'm not convinced with Fairfax ...

But if Fairfax IS innocent, I appreciate him standing strong.

Northam needs better friggin' crisis mgt. people but I believe he's not a racist, and hence I approve of him not resigning unless some further evidence emerges.

[Renew Deal]

3. You stand with the accused

You show them!

[enough]

4. It's not a team. It's not "standing with" the accused or the accuser.

Rule of law is due process that applies to both.

[Renew Deal]

5. Sure you are.

They have been accused, rightly or wrongly. I'm sure that you have the intellectual honesty to stand with any accused person in either party.

[Baltimike]

8. I stand with the innocent until proven guilty

You show 'em how you stand...I'll stand with the US Constitution

[Renew Deal]

10. In both parties right?

[Baltimike]

12. There are more than two parties. nt

[Renew Deal]

14. Do you think Steve King should resign?

[Baltimike]

15. false equivalence, and you know it.

[Renew Deal]

17. No it's not. He's a credibly accused racist.

Should he resign?

[Baltimike]

21. The false equivalence is you pretending an outright racist THIS DAY

is equal to a photo in poor taste in a yearbook from THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO where there were other photos in poor taste,

They. are. not. the. same. and. you. know. it.

No dice.

[Renew Deal]

23. That's fine. Do you call on Steve King to resign?

[Baltimike]

26. Back to being a false equivalence. You're welcome. nt

[LexVegas]

38. Won't get an answer to that. Or if they thought Kavanaugh was being "Frankened".

[Cold War Spook]

39. Has he done something illegal?

What is his impeachable crime. It is up to him and his constituents. Is there anything in the Constitution about being a racist? A racist, not an act of racism.

[Demsrule86]

19. An accusation should not automatically make a person guilty of anything. I stand with the rule of

law...lets see if the truth can be discerned and if not than Fairfax remains.

[Clash City Rocker]

6. And Trump. Don't forget how much this helps Trump.

[Baltimike]

13. Nice try there. No dice. But thanks for playing. nt

[Clash City Rocker]

32. Trump supporters are using Northam to excuse his bigotry

Northam staying in office may be good for his state, but it’s bad for his country.

[Baltimike]

34. Trump Supporters think Russia is a non story and the earth is flat

The day I let what MF45 supporters think being used as an impetus to get me to do a fucking thing will be the day hell freezes over.

Oh hey...but nice try. no dice.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. I am so burned about this debate.

i have no problem saying Clarence Thomas, Brett Tavanaugh, Steve King, Donald Trump's misdeeds make them unfit to be repositories of the public trust so why can't I say ................................................... misdeeds make them unfit to be repositories of the public trust.

[wildflower]

30. Good point

[Demsrule86]

20. Falling for dirty tricks that resulted in handing over Virginia to the Rethugs would

help Trump much more. And for what something that happened 40 years ago? As for Fairfax...being accused doesn't mean he is guilty...dirty tricks brigade from the GOP must not get another win like they did with Franken.

[Baltimike]

35. THIS nt

[Demsrule86]

36. Thanks

[Baltimike]

37. you are more than welcome. nt

[hughee99]

7. What law did Northam break? Resigning is completely legal.

Are you suggesting that someone shouldn’t have to give up their position because of public pressure? Are you suggesting that people should be treated as innocent until proven guilty?

[bdamomma]

9. Due process of law

is required, instead of mob mentality.

[dalton99a]

11. +1. Especially when one is accused of a crime

[jaysunb]

18. Good post. I totally agree. N/t

[Charlotte Little]

22. Another Day on DU Means

another day of folks likening the rape accusations made by two credible women willing to testify to accusations made by women, some anonymous, who were treated inappropriately during photo ops (allegedly).

It's really gross and very republican-like, but who cares, right? Just as long as no one is "Franken'd" and the GOP doesn't seize power.

Those tinfoil hats must be getting awfully schweaty by now.

[Baltimike]

24. Another day on DU means that

women who are credible welcome an investigation too, and not just guilty until proven innocent.

THAT is what is gross. Tin foil hats be damned, because this is what's happening.

[Baltimike]

29. Neither one of those women

are being shamed by me at all. Do you think a man should resign if he maintains he didn't do it?

But yeah, sure, keep substituting your judgement for mine, while convicting could-be assailants without having any evidence that a rape was committed. The timing of their claims is suspicious and it is clear you don't welcome an investigation, you have already made up your mind.

I haven't, and I certainly don't think Fairfax should resign before a thorough investigation.

Nice that you mention 4chan, when it was indeed a right wing outfit that launched both attacks on the top teir for the Commonwealth within days of each other.

But you go on ahead....you just keep doing you. I'll keep doing me.

[oasis]

33. They may well have weathered the storm. nt

[Baltimike]

40. I am glad the right wing didn't get away with "guilty until innocent"

They want VA for some strange reason.