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Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:21 PM Jan 2012

Now is not a time to try and pick our own people apart.

I'm not happy with a lot of things I thought Obama should have or not have done. I think it's wrong to be critical of the screwed up things the GOP is doing or has done in the past and to not be critical of the democrat's short comings. There comes a time when for the betterment of America, we must all put aside our pet peevs and look at the greater picture. Do we want another fearful, depressing and hopeless, picture like we looked at for eight long years under Bush, or do we want a picture in which things are starting to look a bit better like we're starting to see now? The GOP still sees nothing wrong with the things that Bush and Cheney did. America can't survive another Bush like administration. I'm still wondering if we will survive the last Bush administration which brought hope and trust to the very brink of extinction.

I wish it could be different NOW, in so many ways, but for the greater good of you, me and our country, I will vote a straight democratic ticket in November of this New Year. That is my resolution.

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Now is not a time to try and pick our own people apart. (Original Post) Hubert Flottz Jan 2012 OP
Right on the money, as usual, Mr. Flottz! Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #1
No. ellisonz Jan 2012 #21
wrong! Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #22
there was some hope that the dems would be different in those 8 years. boston bean Jan 2012 #2
I think criticism is warranted when they do something wrong. gateley Jan 2012 #5
"be critical of things they do wrong" Hubert Flottz Jan 2012 #6
Kind of a weak resolution, don't you think? randome Jan 2012 #3
It will be fulfilled much sooner than November here on DU I think.... Little Star Jan 2012 #4
The GOP's toxic politics has finally come home to roost. Hubert Flottz Jan 2012 #8
Technically not true zipplewrath Jan 2012 #7
They are pissed but they blame it every bit on Obama. Hubert Flottz Jan 2012 #9
Among a certain group zipplewrath Jan 2012 #10
only some factions of the (R)s are pissed about these things Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #14
Yup zipplewrath Jan 2012 #25
the U.S. Constitution is not a "pet peeve" MisterP Jan 2012 #11
The US Constitution has never been in such grave danger. Hubert Flottz Jan 2012 #13
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2012 #12
So will 99.44 percent of Dems. ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #15
I hope you're right! Hubert Flottz Jan 2012 #17
You didn't answer my question. ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #19
KnR 17 2012 is the Year of Reason...time to let Fantasy go...embrace Reality Sanity & Clarity opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #16
Right-0 Hubert Flottz Jan 2012 #18
Douchebaggers now...is it? LOL...the Group of Psuedo wannabes...they fail at the easiest of steps. opihimoimoi Jan 2012 #23
I'm not voting for those who will vote with Republicans mmonk Jan 2012 #20
i reserve the right to decide who my "people" are. tomp Jan 2012 #24

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
1. Right on the money, as usual, Mr. Flottz!
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jan 2012

Seems like a no-brainer to me, but I'm probably just another Obamabot.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
21. No.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 06:28 PM
Jan 2012

You're old and in the way...our glorious revolution will move you out of it with great bombast - All Power to the Soviets!

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
22. wrong!
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 07:03 PM
Jan 2012

I'm an out-of-touch, DLC-loving,3rd way triangulatin, stealth Republicanating Obamacrat...thank you very much!

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
2. there was some hope that the dems would be different in those 8 years.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:27 PM
Jan 2012

Now with so much of the same types of capitulations and policies, it's even hard to have hope.

But yes, I will vote Dem, but will probably still be critical of things they do wrong.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
5. I think criticism is warranted when they do something wrong.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:51 PM
Jan 2012

What discourages me is the shredding. When nothing is good enough. When it didn't happen soon enough -- stuff like that.

But definitely, they need to be criticized (and contacted) when they do something blatantly un-Democratic.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
6. "be critical of things they do wrong"
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:52 PM
Jan 2012

So will I. I have been all along.

It's called being fair. Something the GOP will never understand.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. Kind of a weak resolution, don't you think?
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:29 PM
Jan 2012

You don't even have to do anything to fulfill it until November! Piece of cake!

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
4. It will be fulfilled much sooner than November here on DU I think....
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jan 2012

As soon as both major party nominees become clear, election season begins on DU per TOS. I think that will happen much sooner than November.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
8. The GOP's toxic politics has finally come home to roost.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jan 2012

The RATpublicans are fighting like cats and dogs for control of the ragged remnant of a political organization.(sweet to watch)

The Toxic Tea Baggers funded by the Koch brothers and piloted by Dick Armey has done so much internal erosion within the old GOP that their unity is at the lowest point I can ever remember. The ducks are falling out of the row big time. The GOP's negative political toxin is so imbedded in America's political groundwater that their Kool-Aid is biting their ass instead of everyone else it's been aimed at since Reagan. The GOPers can thank Karl Rove, Rush, Dick Armey and FOX for the sad shape they find themselves in. The country understands well also how badly Bush and Cheney hurt this country.

Let the political bleeding of the toxic newt-cases and tea baggers continue to expand and to further divide them, until they are so diluted they are no longer toxic to the American Dream, that they have tried so hard, for so long, to murder!

The founding fathers would be happy to see these greed driven, lying, un-American, Scumbags, get the political drubbing they so richly deserve.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
7. Technically not true
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 04:10 PM
Jan 2012
"The GOP still sees nothing wrong with the things that Bush and Cheney did."

There was an article around here just the other day discussing how you don't really hear about Junior or Cheney from any of the candidates. It's like it never happened. Much of the current conservative backlash against Romney is connected to their disappointment in Bush and the GOP establishment. It is why there is also a severe distrust among the Tea Baggers with much of the leadership.

They are pissed about the war
They are pissed about the Drug Benefit
They are pissed about TARP
They are pissed that there is no balanced budget
They are pissed that several departments still exist including education, EPA, and Energy.

These nuts really believe that Romney is "liberal" and they want a "true conservative". They are still pissed about McCain, they wanted Huckabee.

Of course, they couldn't win to save their soul, but that doesn't stop them.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
9. They are pissed but they blame it every bit on Obama.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jan 2012

Because Rush, Rove and FOX tells them what to believe and it's their Gospel.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
10. Among a certain group
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jan 2012

Rove isn't all that popular. Not pure enough. The 21% that are pushing Santorum is an over all small portion of the GOP, but they are very active in the primaries. I suspect we'll see a different race by the time we get to New Hampshire though.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
14. only some factions of the (R)s are pissed about these things
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 06:08 PM
Jan 2012

Most are still pushing the Iraq war and wish we were still spending American blood and treasure there.

Many like that Big Pharma is now receiving even bigger profits on the backs of American tax payers.

Only the TPers really care about TARP, most want the banks to receive even more taxpayer money.

Only the TPers care about the balanced budget. They use it to attack Pres. Obama but Cheney was in office saying that "deficits don't matter". Most don't care about it but they just act like they do.

Only the Ronulans want to get rid of departments like the EPA, Energy and Education. There is no way they can win on this and if you explain to them that the Department of Energy keep the nuclear power plants from exploding the rank and file will support it's existence.




Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
13. The US Constitution has never been in such grave danger.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 05:52 PM
Jan 2012

It came under attack on 12/12/ 2000 when the US Supreme Court Elected a President by a vote of five to four and the GOP has pressed that attack ever since.

Should we hand the SCOTUS on over to the GOP for the next four years, to add still more of their crony criminal judges to that mix? Can Obama un-do anything the Bush Crew has done, alone, without any help from Congress or the Supreme Court?

ClassWarrior

(26,316 posts)
15. So will 99.44 percent of Dems.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 06:13 PM
Jan 2012

The percent who won't vote straight Dem this year is so slim that it's insignificant.

So who do you imagine is picking who apart?

NGU.

opihimoimoi

(52,426 posts)
16. KnR 17 2012 is the Year of Reason...time to let Fantasy go...embrace Reality Sanity & Clarity
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 06:13 PM
Jan 2012

its the only way to the Positive Polarity

opihimoimoi

(52,426 posts)
23. Douchebaggers now...is it? LOL...the Group of Psuedo wannabes...they fail at the easiest of steps.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 07:20 PM
Jan 2012

Rookies trying to fly 747s before their time will soon crash the sob plane.....Mongo

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
20. I'm not voting for those who will vote with Republicans
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jan 2012

on the deeply ideological economic issues we are facing. I don't see the point in that. Just to say I voted for a D in a district that will vote against the majority of Democrats? Fortunately my congressional district doesn't sport a Blue Dog. I haven't made up my mind on my Third Way Senator yet. All Democrats down ticket I'll vote for however since I don't have any state reps in my state district connected with ALEC.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
24. i reserve the right to decide who my "people" are.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 08:07 AM
Jan 2012

you don't get to decide that.

When i decide to pick someone apart it is because i have decided he/she is not "my people" and will not be "my people" until they change.

i will pick apart u.s. imperialism and u.s. fascist pseudo-democracy and its supporters, witting or unwitting, to my heart's content.

if you're not down with that you are not one of "my people."

p.s.: apparently obama doesn't see anything wrong with the things bush/cheney did either. my hope and trust has not been restored by obama.

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