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uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 12:27 AM Feb 2019

Unconstitutional????




Don the Con
“Trying to use the 25th Amendment to try and circumvent the Election is a despicable act of unconstitutional power grabbing...which happens in third world countries. You have to obey the law. This is an attack on our system & Constitution.” Alan Dershowitz.
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Unconstitutional???? (Original Post) uppityperson Feb 2019 OP
Using a Constitutional amendment is unconstitutional! - Alan Dershowitz manor321 Feb 2019 #1
Would someone sit Spanky down and explain to him The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #2
SMH Solly Mack Feb 2019 #3
"In a time of universal deceit... C_U_L8R Feb 2019 #4
Nailed it! arthritisR_US Feb 2019 #10
Trump telling anyone that they have to obey the law???? Marie Marie Feb 2019 #5
My god... onecaliberal Feb 2019 #6
Spanky should be declared unconstitutional. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2019 #7
Actually, he's sort of right brooklynite Feb 2019 #8
no, he's wrong Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #9
not unconstitutional, just nearly impossible to make happen outside of a presidential coma. unblock Feb 2019 #11
Is he going to be a stand-up comedian after his prison time? sinkingfeeling Feb 2019 #12
MAGA's pick and chose... myohmy2 Feb 2019 #13
Fox News should just declare itself a branch of the government and get it over with already. Initech Feb 2019 #14

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,606 posts)
2. Would someone sit Spanky down and explain to him
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 12:30 AM
Feb 2019

that if something is in the Constitution it's constitutional? Or is that too complicated? And maybe constitutional scholar Alan Dershowitz should be reminded of that as well.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
8. Actually, he's sort of right
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 12:49 AM
Feb 2019

The 25th Amendment allows the VP and Cabinet to the President's powers to be transferred to the VP IF "the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office". It says nothing about replacing him on the basis of a tainted election. It ALSO allows the President to challenge the decision, in which case the issue goes to Congress, requiring a 2/3 vote to uphold the decision.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,258 posts)
9. no, he's wrong
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:11 AM
Feb 2019

It cannot be unconstitutional because it's provided for by the Constitution. The reason for the checks on it is to help prevent its misuse. His opinion about it being used to "circumvent an election" does not make it an unconstitutional act, it just makes it more likely to fail to pass the checks built in, if true.

unblock

(52,123 posts)
11. not unconstitutional, just nearly impossible to make happen outside of a presidential coma.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:42 AM
Feb 2019

as you said, veep, majority of cabinet, 2/3 of house, 2/3 of senate.

that's a whole lot of people and institutions across parties, notably including the president's inner circle.

for them to agree the president's got to go, it pretty much has to be because the president's in a coma or otherwise so obviously incapacitated that even his closest supporters agree he's got to go.

if the people needed to make it happen agree to make it happen, it's constitutional; really, the stated reason doesn't much matter.

in practice, it's extremely unlikely to ever happen for the "wrong" reasons.


for our present-day circumstance, it's ridiculous to think it has any shot of happening to remove donnie.
there's just no way you'd get the necessary people to agree.

myohmy2

(3,141 posts)
13. MAGA's pick and chose...
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:35 AM
Feb 2019

...what they want from the Constitution and what the Constitution means...what MAGA's don't like, doesn't exist, and what they do like, is etched in stone...

...we have a system built for liars, thieves and scoundrels...

...we have to re-think this country and what it means to be an American...

...I'm pretty sure it doesn't include Russia...

...

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