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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:19 AM Feb 2019

"First Amendment Auditor" shot while filming a Synagogue.

I’ve been following these people for a while. It’s kind of a weird movement that grew out of cop watching. A lot of these first amendment auditors are angry right wingers that finally realized we have a policing problem- of course a lot of them blame Obama.

This particular auditor is a bit squirrelly. But she’s harmless. I don’t think she is a right winger.

She probably shouldn’t have antagonized this guard after he pulled his gun.

But the guard has a screw loose.


https://abc7.com/security-guard-arrested-after-la-synagogue-shooting/5139077/

Security guard arrested after shooting at synagogue in Fairfax District

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A security guard was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon after being captured on film apparently shooting a woman in the leg outside a synagogue in L.A.'s Fairfax District.

Police and paramedics responded to the area of the Etz Jacob Congregation/ Ohel Chana High School in the 7600 block of Beverly Boulevard at 12:24 p.m.

The individual who was shot, Zhoie Perez, captured the encounter on cellphone video.

In the video, the security guard stood behind a gate as Perez approached while filming. The guard drew a firearm and pointed it low, but it appeared to go off in his hand. It's not clear from the video whether the shooting was intentional.



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"First Amendment Auditor" shot while filming a Synagogue. (Original Post) Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 OP
"Don't poke the bear". oasis Feb 2019 #1
What happens when you mix an armed moron with two morons holding a camera. marble falls Feb 2019 #2
I follow these clowns also Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2019 #3
I agree with your assessment. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #4
Fully agree he harshly over reacted Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2019 #5
That freeman guy is a borderline sovereign citizen. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #6
The cop watching is by far better Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2019 #7
Those free Keene clowns are awful. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 2019 #9
The person filming is transgender. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #10
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #11

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
3. I follow these clowns also
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:58 AM
Feb 2019

Hope the person recovers well and security officer is punished to the max.

BUT when I started following these clowns I knew it was a matter of time before disaster happened. They are now in a call to action in the "community" about this which means everyone of the goofs will attempt to outdo this.

You may think I'm being harsh calling them goofs and I'm somewhat against their rights? Not at all, what I am against is the personal insults they use, the agitating and down right stalking tactics they use.

One guy high desert community watch has a 40 thousand dollar gofundme which he uses to do this. Almost all of his videos you can hear him once contact is made:

"I don't answer questions"
"I don't ID"
"your dismissed"

Then once he sees soft polite reaction

"Don't sleep with ypur partners wife"
"You work for me"
"My job is to educate you"
"You have bad teeth"

Another James Freeman will use this same "manifesto" and also will monitor and run to police calls. Most of the time with other "auditors" who all will antagonize the officers by shouting at them.

A few are even at war with each other over using each others videos and or tactics. Of those one was publicly berated because he parked his car outside a courthouse before auditing. Reason was fear law enforcement would envoke a traffic stop where the auditor would have to identify himself.

"We are doing a little story" is caught in 99 percent of the videos where they claim to be journalists. O have yet to find any story or videos in which discussions are about how tax dollars are spent.

They barge into court house's, child services offices, dmvs, public works, police departments, one even got in a dea office. A lot will cover their faces in some manner and move around like stalking prey.

This case will embolden them all ugh

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
4. I agree with your assessment.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:58 AM
Feb 2019

But I believe most of it is further fueled by the cops’ ridiculous overreaction to cameras.

And yeah, the “movement” gets more clownish as it goes on.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
5. Fully agree he harshly over reacted
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 11:21 AM
Feb 2019

And hope he serves jail time.

There are also great videos out which go into detail on how to deal with these people, along with sovereign and Moorish citizens.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
6. That freeman guy is a borderline sovereign citizen.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 11:43 AM
Feb 2019

He’s a bit of a newcomer to the auditing, isn’t he?


I keep thinking, yeah these guys are jackasses but then the cops take the bait, escalate and/or lie to make an arrest and I’m like “yeah the cops deserve the heartburn they get”

I don’t at all agree with going in libraries and civilian offices to bother library checks and office workers.


As I said earlier, I believe this movement grew out of more noble efforts to film police stops - especially police stops of minorities. There were some pretty highly reported arrests of photographers/cop watchers getting arrested for being across the street or, as below, on their own front lawn.

The guy who started Photography is Not a Crime I Believe is/was a DUer. He was arrested for filming a protest and police reaction in Miami.





Carlos Miller (former?) duer

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
7. The cop watching is by far better
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 12:49 PM
Feb 2019

Most do good work but the freeman guy takes it to extreme where often he himself becomes involved by attacking police officers. It's really bad because 99 percent he has no clue what the officers are investigating.

Freeman I believe started in the free keene movement in New Hampshire although not positive. I have heard many of the auditors mention him and some have him join them as a "special guest"

Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
10. The person filming is transgender.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:33 PM
Feb 2019

I’ve seen another video where she talks about having something done with her voice.

Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #10)

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