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mucifer

(23,521 posts)
1. It doesn't seem to matter how insane he acts. his pole numbers continue to be mid 30s-40s
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:56 AM
Feb 2019

It's all very scary.

he gets crazier and crazier and most republicans go there with him.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
4. Bazinga,
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:36 AM
Feb 2019

that Gallup poll that just showed him at 44% made me laugh out loud. I don't usually watch Tweety but flipping channels I saw that Tweety bought the 44% poll number.

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
6. They are constantly trying to play us and wear us down
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:43 AM
Feb 2019

We must RESIST. There's no other way to survive it. At least we have the House and a lot of public interest at this point.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
15. Doubt that he even has the 28% backwash that never left W
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 11:49 AM
Feb 2019

There's a hardcore GOP that hate Dems and some marginal racists/misogynists, but it's hard to believe any more than 30% really support this heathen.

My guess is some folks just like to piss off the press and skew polls, but more likely that the pollsters are using flawed sampling models and inflating their conservative numbers.

PatSeg

(47,352 posts)
10. Yeah, I don't think
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 11:00 AM
Feb 2019

I can ever take poll numbers seriously again. Some of those numbers are absurd. If 44 out of 100 people approve of Trump, we're in really big trouble.

I live in the real world and I don't see those 44 people, though I don't know many people who answer phone calls from pollsters either.

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
12. I have , back in years past
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 11:10 AM
Feb 2019

been a "dialer" at a survey taking company. Back then, and I doubt it's changed much since, you couldn't request interviews on cell phones.

The rules for IPSOS polls were pretty strict. IPSOS was the political standard for polls, we were to identify interviewees by certain criteria such as whether they were voters or likely to vote, that sort of thing. But we also had to make sure that the phone was a landline and a private number, not a business or organization, school, etc..

Most people have cell phones now so it always makes me wonder just what the participant pool actually is and whether the rules for cell phone surveys has changed.

And then there are the actual questions and the wording of such regarding intent of the survey... I don't even want to get into that, those who have written reviewed or presented surveys/polls know what I mean.

PatSeg

(47,352 posts)
13. So many people don't even have landlines anymore
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 11:29 AM
Feb 2019

and even if they do, very few answer the phone if they don't recognize the caller. I know some do online polls, but even that seems iffy. I think over the years we started to take these polls much too seriously and the MSM loves to use them to create stories where often there isn't one.

I think we all have to quit taking them seriously.

keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
16. Statistics class had an example of phone polling... 1920s or 1930s?
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 11:50 AM
Feb 2019

Statistics class had an example of phone polling... 1920s or 1930s?

Phone poll showed a certain candidate winning but only the relatively well-off had phones.

The poll did not include the lower economic folks.

PatSeg

(47,352 posts)
19. Oh, that's interesting
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 12:58 PM
Feb 2019

It really looks like polling is a racket, but as long as someone is willing to pay for it, they'll keep on putting out polls.

Wounded Bear

(58,618 posts)
7. Not to mention, Congress passed the funding bill...
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:45 AM
Feb 2019

by veto proof majorities in both houses.

Even the most conservative judges won't buy that shit.

If Pelosi calls a vote to deny the emergency funding, and McConnell is forced into it, they can deny the emergency with simple majorities.

The plot thickens.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
8. It's all a show for Fox, the rw media and his supporters who will eagerly seize upon to argue that
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:56 AM
Feb 2019

Trump is a man of conviction, who does what he says. His people care little if a particular policy works, or for that matter, hurts them personally. The only thing that is important in rw world is indeed the illusion of strength. Fox has so distorted political, social and economic reality that Trump the strongman standing up to liberal elites is the only narrative they can and want to see. So if Trump passes a tax bill that hurts his supporters and helps the top 1% they can’t and won’t see it like that even though their refund will be smaller. Take healthcare away from them is just fine if Fox and Trump tells his supporters it was the Dems fault, they will be happy to believe it. Up is down, black is white and good is bad in rw reality world. He truly is the Teflon Don to his people who will take the country down with him if it supports the narrative of the swamp being drained, science denied, or moral decay of our society because they have been led to believe it’s the fault of the baby killing, weak, looking for handout socialist left. Fox has created such a divide and distortion of reality that it may take the total collapse of our economy and a period of very difficult times to cleanse the right of belief that liberals are cause of all their pain. A catharsis in the form of a prolonged depression and profound pain and poverty maybe the only thing to shake the stupid out the right.

lark

(23,081 posts)
9. This isn't just or maybe even mainly about the base, it's about buying Russian steel from Deripaska.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:59 AM
Feb 2019

The guy that gave McTurtle and drumpf hundreds of millions of dollars and his master PUtin expect a return on their investment and the steel is a big part of it. If drumpf really is afraid of PUtin he will order the (most likely defective) steel today before an injunction and include a no return provision so he's kept his word to the people he actually fears. He doesn't care about building the wall, other than buying the steel, everything else is a front for his base. He only cares one whit bout himself and his $$, that's why he broke his word on taxes and infrastructure - he hadn't yet figured out a way to profit. He's profiting from stealing babies (DeVos selling them with no records to who???) and caging them - Devos is getting paid $750/day to cage, freeze, drug and torture brown children and their parents. Stupid amount that you know is going partly to drumpf - that's why he's so set on this because he profits. if he doesn't profit, he totally doesn't care.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
11. the real story
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 11:09 AM
Feb 2019

is his Adderol addiction is running his show. He's nuts from drug abuse. The GOPers know it. And the stuff makes him impotent, sexually. He is and was a failure in an expensive suit. But The GOP let him collude with Russians to overthrow an election, because they are on the take, too. Forget America. They are in it to make money and as long as Don is at the helm, they have a cover.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. Well, I was expecting a post about trump's,, er 'impotence.'
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 12:16 PM
Feb 2019


Maybe it's just as well it was about another impotence of his..

NoMoreRepugs

(9,401 posts)
18. tRumpy, Faux News, RW radio all have created an environment
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 12:30 PM
Feb 2019

where the goober n gomer Deplorables can now participate in this nightmarish Kabuki Theatre we call America.

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