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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's medical exam accidently revealed that he's gravely ill. Like... seriously ill.
Last edited Sat Feb 16, 2019, 04:48 AM - Edit history (1)
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/15/1834996/-Is-the-President-s-liver-failing?utm_campaign=recentThe President is prescribed 40 mg Rosuvastatin per day, the maximum dosage. Rosuvastatin is mainly an anti-cholesterol medication, but also reduces inflammation and lowers blood-pressure.
But... (here comes the but)
BUT for patients older than 70 (Trump is 72) such a high dosage damages the liver and is lethal in the long term. And a Rosuvastatin-treatment has very little effect if the patient refuses to go on a low-fat diet.
So, why is he still getting the maximum dosage of Rosuvastatin? That's the big question. There are three possible explanations:
Possible Explanation 1: Trump is battling dangerously high levels of cholesterol.
His doctor figured that destroying his liver in the long term is worth it if he can prevent Trump from dying from too much cholesterol in the short term.
Possible Explanation 2: Trump has a heart disease.
Rosuvastatin reduces inflammation. One possible source of inflammation is a heart-disease. A heart-disease serious enough to risk destroying his liver.
Possible Explanation 3: Rosuvastatin is an early-stage treatment for Alzheimer's disease.
Additionally to its main uses, it has recently been discovered that Rosuvastatin can also be used to delay the onset of Alzheimer's disease. Alzheimer's serious enough to risk destroying his liver.
TL;DR
There is no fucking way Trump is possibly healthy. There is some serious shit going on and his doctors refuse to tell the people what is going on.
EDIT:
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world wide wally
(21,740 posts)CrispyQ
(36,453 posts)I did. I laughed out loud.
Here's a heart for that!
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)onethatcares
(16,165 posts)still laughing.
MontanaFarmer
(630 posts)For a laugh in a restaurant
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)3_Limes
(363 posts)bdamomma
(63,836 posts)or Crestor
Oh boy, he could have a damaged liver. Maybe that's why he has a fake tan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosuvastatin
He could be overdosing himself on the dose too. Plus what he eats isn't low fat which the dr. recommended.
Read this: Side effects and contraindications[edit]
Side effects are uncommon. The following side effects should be reported to the prescribing doctor if they persist or get worse:[11]
constipation
heartburn
dizziness
sleeplessness
depression
joint pain
cough
memory loss or forgetfulness
confusion
The following rare side effects are more serious. Like all statins, rosuvastatin can possibly cause myopathy, rhabdomyolysis. Stop taking rosuvastatin and contact the prescribing doctor if any of these occur:[11][12]
muscle pain, tenderness, or weakness
lack of energy
fever
chest pain
jaundice: yellowing of the skin or eyes
dark colored, or foamy urine
pain in the upper right part of the abdomen
nausea
extreme tiredness
weakness
unusual bleeding or bruising
loss of appetite
flu-like symptoms
sore throat, chills, or other signs of infection
If any signs of an allergic reaction develop, contact an emergency medical service immediately:[12]
rash
hives
itching
difficulty breathing or swallowing
swelling of the face, throat, tongue, lips, eyes, hands, feet, ankles, or lower legs
hoarseness
numbness or tingling in fingers or toes
Bingo, Jaundice that could definitely be a reason why he spray tans. Oh boy he is physically nor mentally well.
lastlib
(23,208 posts)...why he's so MASSIVELY full of shit..........so much so that it's seeping into his brain...
Wile E. Coli
(11 posts)He isn't even a little bit constipated, he has diarrhea of the mouth.
Oldtimeralso
(1,936 posts)and constipation of the brain.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)sniffles!
napi21
(45,806 posts)snorting coke. It was very obvious during the debates.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)This could explain his slurring of words, and those funny sounds that sometimes spring forth when he's attempting to talk.
It could be any one of a hundred things though. The man has no business being in any position that requires split-second decision making skills. The only jobs for which he's suitable would be crash test dummy, speed bump, or a bookend in the library.
ashling
(25,771 posts)it would be negligent to put him in close proximity to anybody who would
NCjack
(10,279 posts)From: [link:www.drugs.com/search.php?searchterm=Rosuvastatin|]
runny nose (seen to occur during some of his speeches on TV) [oops: noted by others before me -- apologies]
blurred vision (perhaps caused trouble reading teleprompter and notes during some of his speeches)
loss of interest (doesn't want briefings)
loss of pleasure
trouble concentrating
magicarpet
(14,144 posts)... or maybe he is just a XxXXxx king sized lard ass.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)eShirl
(18,490 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)He's just a carrier.
Dunnjen
(65 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)Cheeseburgers and fried chicken.
Geechie
(864 posts)I don't want it to speed up any faster than Mueller's investigation. Honestly, I want ***** to die alone and sick and IN JAIL.
I fear that if he dies in office he'll get the state funeral that he definitely doesn't deserve.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)From all those who have a need to relieve themselves.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)The TRUMP CULT will go freakin NUTZ claiming he was murdered!!! No elected Democrats would be safe!
gordianot
(15,237 posts)At least those who are relatives and make threats are chickenshit. Am not looking for a fight but will not backdown.
erronis
(15,228 posts)"Quick - stick it in this body bag and take it to the crematorium!"
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Burial "at sea", only they should fly over a cesspool.
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)Norbert
(6,039 posts)Very cruel treatment.
drmeow
(5,017 posts)Adding - in pain
2naSalit
(86,524 posts)malaise
(268,904 posts)Up the fugging dose
mjvpi
(1,388 posts)Blue Owl
(50,347 posts)n/t
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)mountain grammy
(26,614 posts)Just sprayed my phone.
JDC
(10,125 posts)mitch96
(13,888 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)would not be fake news, would it?
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,515 posts)Dem2theMax
(9,650 posts)azureblue
(2,146 posts)You should apologize to Don. and to prove your sincerity, send him two double big macs with large fries every day for -- I think a year should do it.
Hey - this could be something -- what if we all sent Don a big Mac every day? Like the WH buried in big macs....
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)Yavin4
(35,433 posts)His diet.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)Ancient Orange needs to pop his flipping clogs already.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,172 posts)Just do us a favor and get it done with.
I know, it sounds terrible. But I stopped caring long ago.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)To remove this scourge from the politics of this planet. The GOP will do nothing, ever. I am relying on Colonel Sanders to leverage his secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices to complete his secret mission: to save democracy in the United States of America.
cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)Granted the bonus is we get Pelosi as the VP but the VP has little overall power compared to the President.
sabbat hunter
(6,828 posts)as VP. Pence would get to choose a new VP, approved by the Senate. Just like Nixon chose Ford after Agnew stepped down.
The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)House gets to confirm so Pences days are just numbered
cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)the pick and after all the bullshit the Repugnants have pulled its not to our benefit to help them pick a new one of their choice.
oldsoftie
(12,529 posts)I'd say his best shot would be Nikki Haley.
getagrip_already
(14,700 posts)pelosi would stay on as speaker, but would be the defacto president if pence left office before a new vp was chosen.
Pence, once president would get to nominate a vp, just like any other open position requiring confirmation. But in the case of a vp, the person would need to be confirmed by both the house and the senate.
So the house would get to hold confirmation hearings and they would need a majority of members to confirm the nominee. The senate alone can't confirm a vp.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,172 posts)The guy has the charisma of a wet sock.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)He sucks, no question. But there are no women out there hoping for Pence to grab them by the pussy. Pence never had a national TV game show where he pretended to be a magical rich guy. Pence has always been, and will always be, an ineffectual twit.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Like a cat plays with a mouse before killing it.
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)He has quite a number of risk factors there. And if he keeps on his unhealthy diet, he will have a medical emergency.
If he keeps on continuing on the path he is on, he could stroke out. I have posted side effects of the drug.
https://www.drugs.com/cdi/rosuvastatin.html
niyad
(113,246 posts)The Blue Flower
(5,440 posts)He isn't thinking or speaking clearly, and it's worse than at the beginning of his term. Thanks for this information. It's good news.)
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I'm bettin' on #3 personally.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)Even had the same campaign slogan, more or less. Looks like he's getting his wish.
C_U_L8R
(44,997 posts)getagrip_already
(14,700 posts)He is a walking picture of the morbidly obese.
It might also explain his skin color needing the orange spray paint..... Jaundice can make a mess of skin color.
Which could also explain his speech issues - like he is struggling through lock jaw.
Hey, I'm not even a tv doctor. This is fun!!!!!
So what is the outlook if he has advanced liver disease in addition to coronary disease?
47of74
(18,470 posts)Im a little less that 239 and I look a bit thinner than Fuck Face von Grand Wizard.
LoveMyCali
(2,015 posts)He now admits to 243
47of74
(18,470 posts)The Grand Wizard can go fuck himself.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)trying to reach his brain.
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)not reaching to his brain. something we could already know.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)"There are several ways that carotid artery disease can cause a stroke: Narrowed carotid arteries may not supply enough blood to the brain. A piece of plaque can break off and lodge in one of the smaller arteries of your brain, blocking blood flow. Blood clots can form in your carotid artery, blocking blood flow." https://www.healthline.com/health/carotid-artery-disease
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)we are connecting the dots. Diagnosing from afar.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)Well Nancy can continuing messing him up, or his own body will retaliate on him. Let's hope for the later.
llmart
(15,536 posts)I don't really want him to die. I want him to suffer like the little children he pulled away from their mothers and put in cages.
Locked in syndrome would be perfect.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Or keep him in place since the mouth breathers <3 him sooooo much and just pretend that he's still functional.
I don't know if a locked in syndrome pretzeldunce would be better than what we have now.
Squinch
(50,941 posts)Dan
(3,543 posts)This stuff is painful?
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)PeeJ52
(1,588 posts)when he's walking from the helicopter. I used to be like that before I lost a lot of weight and lowered my blood pressure.
happybird
(4,604 posts)the other G7 leaders walked the 700 yards, he followed them in a golf cart. That sure doesn't sound like someone "in excellent health."
47of74
(18,470 posts)Without aid of a golf cart or other assistance.
The Grand Wizard is on his last legs.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)Please sir, have some more cheeseburgers.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)take turns buying them
yaesu
(8,020 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Luka Boyd
(49 posts)In the interest of national security?
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Was 220-230, now under 170 total and don't have professionals at my beck & call to monitor my intake.
He's seriously messed up.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)RKP5637
(67,102 posts)K&R
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It's pretty typical for when someone to have health problems when they get close to the average life span endpoint
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Things are looking up!
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Javaman
(62,515 posts)if anyone believes that the orange asshole got an actual physical, I have a bridge to sell you.
someone took the doc aside and side, "this is how it works, you write down what I tell you and get to go home to your family tonight, are we clear?"
C Moon
(12,212 posts)a picture of health (diet /exercise-wise).
And maybe this is why he wants his wall so quickly.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)He's out of touch with reality at times, but he doesn't appear to be that forgetful, for someone his age.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)any health problems are a bonus to his life style
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)Rosuvastatin 5mg, 10 mg, 20 mg and 40 mgFilm-coated Tablets report of effects
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,320 posts)Puppetrump is the healthiest man on the planet, ever! I'll bet he could eat 5 Big Macs -and- a bucket of KFC every day and still be healthy!
Might need to up the dosage to 80mg, since 40 is the max for mere humans.
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)Different Drummer
(7,612 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Crestor.
He might have high LDL-C, and his total cholesterol was just under 200, but I would imagine the dose would be titrated to 40mg, not quadrupled immediately.
Where's Aristus?
helpisontheway
(5,007 posts)hunter
(38,310 posts)That would explain some of the admiration he's expressed for totalitarian governments.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)NCDawg
(45 posts)Regardless to the type, maker, or dosage are pure and absolute POISON to the human body. Big Pharma has US consumers convinced that the only way to reduce inflammation, coronary artery disease, heart disease, high cholesterol,...etc.,...is to take one or better yet MANY of their poisonous drugs. If he is on the highest dosage of any statin allowed, he not only is seriously ill, but at serious risk of numerous system failures, the least of which is his liver.
I'm speaking from experience, having been on a very high dosage of a statin that was never reduced over time, even when my total blood cholesterol dropped to 65! Subsequently I developed Rhabdomyolosis and damn near died!
Total cholesterol below about 130 is associated with increased mortality from numerous causes. If it's below 100, no one will sell you life insurance.
NCDawg
(45 posts)In fact, the clinical plan for most cardiac patients is to have your total below 99....All I know is I'll never take that poison again...Been off them 6 years!!!!
dubyadiprecession
(5,706 posts)theboss
(10,491 posts)You know this.
I know this.
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)bats in the belfry.
infullview
(979 posts)First, he's supposed to be 6'3" tall and she showed lots of him standing next to people who are known to be 6'2" and he's definitely not 6'3" as claimed. Her point was that if they are lying about the vanity details, what else are they lying about?
defacto7
(13,485 posts)I don't care about his death or torturing him for his crimes. If he dies, so be it but jees, the replies...
oldsoftie
(12,529 posts)go back to when Scalia died! Or Cheney got the 2nd heart. Although that one was tough for me too. Iraq was Cheneys war
defacto7
(13,485 posts)The anger is understandable but sometimes there has to be a wake-up call to keep some sort of standard. I need it too.
oldsoftie
(12,529 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)It's embarrassing
Johnny2X2X
(19,035 posts)Sure, the Left will discuss this here, and it is a grave health situation for our President that should be huge news. But the difference is that if this had been Hillary or Bill taking 40 mg of Crestor the Right Wing Media (FOX) would have 24 hour a day coverage with a full roster of experts talking about what 40 mg of Crestor daily means. The entire country would be talking about it.
The left simply won't go there, because we're still bound by the rules of common decency even though this is very clearly a huge story that should be getting a lot of coverage.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Its getting funny to read all the diagnoses.
apcalc
(4,463 posts)As I read your text that means the treatment has little effect. Does that also mitigate the effects of the drug? i.e., it will have little effect on his body?
notKeith
(138 posts)Trump is playing 11-dimensional chess, being the master deal maker that he is - he is planning to croak prior to :
(1) getting impeached and/or
(2) getting arrested and/or
(3) getting imprisoned and/or
(4) getting murdered by Putin & Co. and/or
(4) seeing his businesses destroyed and his spawn die penniless in prison
what a huge brain he has!
sabbat hunter
(6,828 posts)Crestor (Rosuvastatin) is that affects on the liver are extremely rare, just like any other statin.
3Hotdogs
(12,370 posts)How would you like it if you had a job that required watching 10 hours of tv a day? You'd be stressed out too.
Oneironaut
(5,491 posts)I would prefer an actual doctor weigh in. Everybody on the internet is a medical expert.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)You know, because he likes it so much!
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)trueblue2007
(17,203 posts)Gore1FL
(21,127 posts)I fit case 1
I fit case 2
Based on family history there is a chance at some point I'll probably fit case 3.
While I have 17 years before 70, I don't consider my trend to 70 puts me in the gravely ill category. My father lived to 91 taking the same dosage of Crestor as Trump and me.
Ms. Toad
(34,060 posts)Just because side-effects could make one gravely ill does not mean those side effects manifest themselves in every person taking that medication.
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)President Woodrow Wilson had serious health problems that got swept under the rug.
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)but the orange piece of excrement is definitely not a healthy person.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)IronLionZion
(45,420 posts)lots of KFC, McDonalds, ice cream, chocolate cake, etc. Paula Deen should be his dessert chef.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If so, she sound like a perfect desert maker for Trump.
IronLionZion
(45,420 posts)Trump can have as many helpings as he wants. No judgment!
Every time I see anything about his health, I feel inspired to do more cardio exercise. I'm going to make grilled salmon and sauteed vegetables in avocado oil for dinner today. I don't ever want to end up as fat as him.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I am a southerner, I guess some bad things are hard to shake.
Your meal sounds great though. I have never had the patience to infuse oil, I just buy it already done.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)He has to stop and look glum every time Trump walks by.
Texin
(2,594 posts)For some anecdotal information, my 85+ mother had never had any problems with high cholesterol, but she did have significant cognitive issues the last five to seven years of her life. Her doctor had told me her cholesterol levels were those of a person in his early twenties who had never been allowed to eat junk food on a regular basis, so when he prescribed simvastatin for her, I balked. He told me that the statin drugs are indicated where cognitive impairment is present. As far as I could see, it did nothing positive for her and it made her muscles ache and weakened them to the point that she required a wheelchair to move around after about eight or nine months on the drug. Frankly, after her issues with a statin I will refuse to accept a prescription for them for myself and I would seriously warn others about using them, especially if they aren't at an advanced age, and if they start to have issues with muscle weakness or pain to notify their prescribing physician STAT and stop using them.
Thekaspervote
(32,754 posts)I will concentrate on the liver and brain. One can hope. Id do non stop incantations if it would help him keel over
Alwaysna
(574 posts)lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)I'll send you a bucket of KFC. Maybe that will perk you up.
Gee, I wonder if you'll live to see your silly ass wall completed.
dlk
(11,544 posts)Evan a casual observer could figure out something is seriously wrong with Trump.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)seems like a Heart Ultrasound would have been performed? That is a pretty high dosage when 10mg is average
So Explanation 3 makes a lot of sense.
Gore1FL
(21,127 posts)Some of us are just genetically prone to high cholesterol.
My dad lived a little over 3 months shy of 92 and took the same dosage I and apparently, Trump take. Neither of us had or have Alzheimer's disease that I am aware of.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Sorry, I know it's bad taste to wish harm to anyone...but since this is self inflicted, and his time in the White House is a complete threat to the entire world...yeah, I'm hoping it's all of the above. After this life, I'm also hoping hell has a nice not spot set aside for him and most of his administration and family as well.
Damn...I've turned really evil in the past two years. Wonder why...?
benld74
(9,904 posts)First come into conversation.
Dailykos article
If so I missed it
Not in the doctors letter
Where exactly?
Initech
(100,062 posts)DallasNE
(7,402 posts)And Trump has taken this for a few years. Much of what this article says has been sensationalized. Read more here.
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-76701/rosuvastatin-oral/details
I've been on it for almost a year after 40mg of Atorvastatin didn't do enough.
This thread puzzles me.
Liberal In Texas
(13,543 posts)As are any of the other statins that people of an age take. Those side-effects are only possible side effects and probably occurred very rarely in trials. This drug wouldn't be as widely distributed if it was so dangerous.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)I want him penniless and imprisoned, eating prison gruel and suffering for his life of crime and sins! Last thing we want is a martyr whose nincompoop followers will march in his honor!
LiberalFighter
(50,865 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)confirm or deny this particular diagnosis?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Such nonsense posted here by people who think they can diagnose ailments from looking at someone on TV. Smh.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)The starting point is wrong.
And no one can diagnose anything.
harumph
(1,898 posts)elias7
(3,997 posts)Hepatotoxicity is rare and development of persistent mild liver inflammation is an indication to stop the medication. The author of the article is highly misinformed
W T F
(1,146 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Aussie105
(5,377 posts)Most doctors are aware of possible long term negative side effects of the stuff they prescribe.
In Trump's case, short term benefits far outweigh long term complications, because at age 72, 'long term' is relatively meaningless.
Doctors are going to take less notice with Trump than if they were prescribing the same drug for long term use by a 20 year old, for instance.
The drugs he is on for his hair loss, his cholesterol, and probably for other things as well, are keeping him moving. For a 72 year old, he has a fairly active schedule - most 72 year olds are probably more inclined to NOT take plane journeys, or address big crowds.
But the long term effect of short term help from drugs? When the final collapse comes, it will be a big one.
Don't be surprised if you wake up one day, and hear on the news that Trump didn't.
dalton99a
(81,442 posts)The earth will rejoice
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)does he have to testify and because of the medications he is taking, can his medical condition come into play?
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)And I had a 4x cardiac bypass three years ago. He must have signs of blockage. His cholesterol didn't drop that much for such a high dosage. His diet must be horrible.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)two orders of greasy fries, two fricasee'd apple pies two scoops of soft serve, and...
Oh, better make it a diet Coke with that.
47of74
(18,470 posts)DallasNE
(7,402 posts)appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)saturated with ketchup.