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Picture of the two Nigerian men now charged with Battery in Jussie Smollett case (Original Post) madville Feb 2019 OP
The story is odd. I was starting to think victim made up story Demovictory9 Feb 2019 #1
Why would two AA males want to commit a hate crime aginst another AA male? notadmblnd Feb 2019 #2
It very well could be just because he is gay madville Feb 2019 #3
+1, not only that Smollet is light enough skinned ... yeah, stupid racism knows no color uponit7771 Feb 2019 #5
They obviously knew it was Smollett from what was reportedly yelled madville Feb 2019 #7
Well it was described as racist attack. LisaL Feb 2019 #6
Well, I'm white, and if I went crazy in public and yelled "death to all whites" blugbox Feb 2019 #12
Has there ever been an actual case where LisaL Feb 2019 #22
I'm going to be THAT GUY: They are Nigerian, not AA theboss Feb 2019 #8
Definitely not going to confuse these two for white males, even if they had masks on. LisaL Feb 2019 #10
Yeah as much as they supposedly yelled at him madville Feb 2019 #11
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #9
Why do you refer to them as African American? cwydro Feb 2019 #24
because they are American citizens notadmblnd Feb 2019 #27
CPD says the beating was not staged uponit7771 Feb 2019 #4
I live in Chicago and the news says the opposite. former9thward Feb 2019 #13
Those are "sources says" claims where as the CPD is denying they're investigating it (link) uponit7771 Feb 2019 #15
That was Thursday. This is Friday. former9thward Feb 2019 #17
Yes, no evidence ... a "sources claim" doesn't override a direct named source from the CPD. Also uponit7771 Feb 2019 #18
They didn't phrase it like that madville Feb 2019 #14
The CPD said they have no evidence they are investigating Smollet fabricated story (link & quote) uponit7771 Feb 2019 #16
That is a very careful way of saying nothing. cwydro Feb 2019 #19
Agreed, we'll see ... they aren't claiming this was staged and I don't see them going down uponit7771 Feb 2019 #20
Lol. cwydro Feb 2019 #21
It would also be very hard to confuse them for white men. LisaL Feb 2019 #23
Yes, he has said the attackers were white. cwydro Feb 2019 #25
CPD has gone from obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2019 #26

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
2. Why would two AA males want to commit a hate crime aginst another AA male?
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 04:37 PM
Feb 2019

It can't just be because he's gay. Smollett said himself that they also called him a racial slur and told him Chicago (that's right Chicago) is MAGA country.

To black white supremacists? Incredible.

madville

(7,408 posts)
3. It very well could be just because he is gay
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 04:49 PM
Feb 2019

Nigeria is a horrible country for LGBT people, it's actually illegal:

From wiki: According to the 2007 Pew Global Attitudes Project, 97 percent of Nigerian residents believe that homosexuality is a way of life that society should not accept, which was the second-highest rate of non-acceptance in the 45 countries surveyed.

madville

(7,408 posts)
7. They obviously knew it was Smollett from what was reportedly yelled
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 05:25 PM
Feb 2019

They all followed each others' Instagram accounts I saw earlier, worked out at the same gym, parts on the same show. So the racist language was probably just a cover to throw off the real reason behind the attack.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. Well it was described as racist attack.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 04:53 PM
Feb 2019

So how could it be racist if the suspects are not white? Reportedly, he described suspects as white men wearing ski masks. Hard to understand how these two suspects can be confused for white men.

blugbox

(951 posts)
12. Well, I'm white, and if I went crazy in public and yelled "death to all whites"
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 06:33 PM
Feb 2019

And started attacking any white people in my vicinity, I would definitely call that "racially motivated".

To me, it's like saying you can't be raped by a member of the same sex. I guess the point I'm trying to get at is even if they are the same race, the crime can still be "racially motivated".

The part about them being described as white with ski masks... I have no idea there.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
22. Has there ever been an actual case where
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:40 PM
Feb 2019

a white person was charged with a hate crime against white persons?

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
8. I'm going to be THAT GUY: They are Nigerian, not AA
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 05:34 PM
Feb 2019

God, that felt good.

Having said that....there is no way on earth that you mistake these dudes for white dudes - ski masks are not. I'm assuming they had accents.

Response to notadmblnd (Reply #2)

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
13. I live in Chicago and the news says the opposite.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 06:54 PM
Feb 2019

They say the police are investigating whether the attack was staged. They say the actor and these men have a relationship. Do you have a link that says different?

Police: 2 potential Jussie Smollett incident suspects arrested; police investigating if attack staged, sources say

https://abc7chicago.com/police-2-potential-jussie-smollett-incident-suspects-arrested/5139942/

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
15. Those are "sources says" claims where as the CPD is denying they're investigating it (link)
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:11 PM
Feb 2019
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/430125-smollett-allegedly-staged-attack-over-being-written-off-empire

Chicago police on Thursday say they "have no evidence" to support reports they are investigating whether actor Jussie Smollett fabricated the story about his alleged assault in Chicago last month.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
17. That was Thursday. This is Friday.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:22 PM
Feb 2019

No evidence of fabrication? Those arrested can't be mistaken for white as Smollett claimed. They worked on the set of Empire. They are Nigerians who have a distinctive accent. We will see where this goes.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
18. Yes, no evidence ... a "sources claim" doesn't override a direct named source from the CPD. Also
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:25 PM
Feb 2019

... I've been asking about for the quote were Smollet said the attackers were white.

I've got no quotes ... just reporting of him saying the attackers were white ... but no QOUTES from Smollet himself.

I'm not feeling good about this whole thing but to see the attackers arrested and charge leads more credence to Smollets claims.

madville

(7,408 posts)
14. They didn't phrase it like that
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 07:23 PM
Feb 2019

The spokesman said they haven't seen anything yet to make them think it was staged. They haven't ruled it out yet.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
16. The CPD said they have no evidence they are investigating Smollet fabricated story (link & quote)
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:14 PM
Feb 2019

Chicago police on Thursday say they "have no evidence" to support reports they are investigating whether actor Jussie Smollett fabricated the story about his alleged assault in Chicago last month.

and

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/430125-smollett-allegedly-staged-attack-over-being-written-off-empire

"Media reports [about] the Empire incident being a hoax are unconfirmed by case detectives. Supt Eddie Johnson has contacted @ABC7Chicago to state on the record that we have no evidence to support their reporting and their supposed CPD sources are uninformed and inaccurate," police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi tweeted Thursday night.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. That is a very careful way of saying nothing.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:26 PM
Feb 2019

One thing is for sure. Those guys don”t appear to be MAGA types lol.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
20. Agreed, we'll see ... they aren't claiming this was staged and I don't see them going down
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:29 PM
Feb 2019

... for Smollet either.

I'm sure bank accounts etc will be looked into cause there's no way the Nigerians would do such on good will.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
23. It would also be very hard to confuse them for white men.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:40 PM
Feb 2019

Which is how attackers were reportedly described.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
25. Yes, he has said the attackers were white.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:53 PM
Feb 2019

He also said on the GMA interview that the guys on the video were DEFINITELY them.

Dude needs to stop digging.

obnoxiousdrunk

(2,910 posts)
26. CPD has gone from
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:14 PM
Feb 2019

calling Jussie victim of an attack to alleged victim of an alleged attack.
Source: CBS Evening news.

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