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Economic trends turn downward for farmersBy Millie Munshi and Shruti Date Singh / Bloomberg
Posted Feb 15, 2019 at 3:59 PM Updated Feb 15, 2019 at 4:00 PM
Read more here: https://www.theledger.com/news/20190215/economic-trends-turn-downward-for-farmers
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Its not a pretty picture, but its not getting a lot worse quickly, said Dan Kowalski, at farm lender CoBank Acb in Greenwood Village, Colorado. Its getting modestly worse over time.
Some of the hurdles have been around for years. Consecutive seasons of bumper crops kept grain inventories flush. At the same time, U.S. meat production was soaring and dairies were overflowing. The supply boom meant prices stayed low for a long time, while robust demand kept things from falling off a cliff. In fact, farm income posted a 22 percent rebound in 2017.
Then came Donald Trumps trade war.
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The bailouts did help out some, Lynn Rohrscheib, chairwoman of the Illinois Soybean Association, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television this week. But most farmers, they just didnt want that. We want to be able to grow our crop and receive a fair price.
Rohrscheib said she knows of some producers who arent farming this year because of the tariffs, and that her family took a $600,000 hit to our annual income as a result of the trade war.
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Meanwhile, other Trump policies have also taken a bite of out of the farm economy.
A labor shortage , which some in the industry say is at least partly sparked by Trumps tough stand on immigration, means employers have been forced to boost wages in the face of sluggish markets. On Thursday, U.S. poultry producer Pilgrims Pride Corp. said it was increasing wages $50 million, year over year, to attract workers.
What will it take for farmers to finally see that Trump lies to them every time?...... ......
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)pay back the Trump welfare, goobers.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)Grocery bills everywhere will be going up......
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)improve over the next sixty days. But will only get uglier as the planting season starts in two to three weeks. Forward Crop Financing is tightening up,and if your balance sheets are not sustainable,kiss you butt good bye. Might as well book you Auction or chapter 12.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)as to why credit is tightening for farmers? Or, is that a national trend for all credit?
I'm guessing the trade war has caused prices on farm machinery to go up as well.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Noticed today that Grain Companies are not expecting any real World Markets again until 2024 or 2025. Once you lose those markets,well it takes years to put those sales and Infrastructure back in place,barges and ships have to be booked and that can take months for that one item. Just the Rail car bookings can take up to six months or more. And this all depends on if you make the sale. Once the Brazilians and the Aussies replaced our farmers,going to be one hell of a tough battle getting those sales back. Same quality of grain only they are now in the drivers seat thanks to Trump and his Pitty Party.
A lot of the Credit squeeze is due to the a fore mention issues of no off shore market gravy sales to keep the demand ahead of supplies. We have a glut of Crops in the Bins and only so much of that will ever be needed in this year. And the 1980's farm crisis is front and center with the Lenders. If your balance sheets are loaded with debt and your operating margins look shaky,chances are your forward financing is in trouble. Machinery is a mixed bag and it is dependent on local circumstances. Appears there are Foreign Buyers stepping in to pick up used Equipment and that has to do with Foreign exchange rates. Cheaper to buy at Auction and have it shipped than buy new at home.
People forget,Money is fungible and can be put to work within a millisecond some where else. And the Big Grain Companies are not going to lose the sale,they just setup shop off shore and still get their piece of the action. BTW,several mega grain growers here State side have major operations in Brazil. And the Aussies are killing the China Market just on the Freight and delivery time . And Trump has poisoned the Trade Waters with China and he does not have any ideal how bad he screwed that up.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)Obviously, few or none of the deplorables cheering Trump's trade war are aware of those transport "details". Some of that trade may never come back.
From your posts, I suspect you're well aware of this situation, but I was reading on Farm & Ranch/Kearney Hub that corn and soy bean harvests are setting records. What the hell are they going to do with all that product? Sales of pork to China is down, so hogs are eating less of it, LOL.
See:
USDA survey shows record corn and soybean harvests in Nebraska
Link: https://www.kearneyhub.com/news/agriculture/usda-survey-shows-record-corn-and-soybean-harvests-in-nebraska/article_b69d13f6-2e1a-11e9-bf45-338de4c85662.html
and.....
Nebraskas 2018 corn crop at record high (discusses other crops as well)
Link: https://www.kearneyhub.com/news/agriculture/latest/nebraska-s-corn-crop-at-record-high/article_7c2b0fec-4b69-5ec5-8235-d023621719b2.html
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I can't comprehend how today's farmers deal with the stress from so many directions, and they have to pay for their own healthcare. Used to be mainly just weather to worry about.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)most likely starting especially in the Western Part.
Understand the Farmers with good Balance Sheets and Bins full of Grain are getting Loans based on Cash Grain at the Elevator pricing. Short term fix for a long term problem. When you kill off the Goose who gave you those golden eggs(China),you are in for one hell of a nasty slap in the face.
Will be watching the Ethanol market and that might reduce some Corn on hand inventories and that is because Trump signed a bill increasing Gas blend from 10% to 15% but that only makes Carl Icahn a mega billionaire with his Regional Control of a couple Blenders her in the West.
Here is a tid bit,the Farmers growing Organic Corn and Beans are smiling all the way to the Bank. That is the new Hot Market and it takes three years to convert to Organics which is another interesting issue in its self.
You mentioned Pork,something is happening in that market. Notice zero footballing of Pork by Kroger or Albertson Super Markets for the last five weeks. Smithfield is mostly China owned,and the largest processor,did see they received some 200k+from Trump's bribery Bill for the Farmers. Did hear there was a major attempt to artificially prop up the market by moving thousands of pounds of Pork into storage. Or did China do a quite buy. Something goofy going on. China is developing their own Pork operations in Africa and other Countries.
So what Donnie of little Smarts does for his Ego,does have serious Consequences. Especially for his so called Base.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)Just wish the general public stayed better informed on the complexities of our food supply chain. You've made it obvious just how isolated most of us are from that web and its intricacies.
Maybe Trump in all his brilliance will start storing ethanol and pickled pork bellies in the big tanks at Cushing.....
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)And quail will come back
Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...or maybe even longer. Economic trends are always down for farmers...it's the original evergreen story...
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)deplorable the way republicans keep weakening America.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)on the international land and equipment market. Many more farms will be auctioned thanks to tRump.
Rural bankers in 10 states worry over farm loan defaults
January 17, 2019
Link: https://apnews.com/a9d6a53340864a46b44fbd0331755b04
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More than 4 of every 10 bankers questioned for the Rural Mainstreet survey for January said they expect farm loan defaults to be the years biggest challenge.
Creighton University economist Ernie Goss, who oversees the survey, says their outlook is being negatively influenced by tariffs, trade tensions, weak commodity prices and the partial federal government shutdown.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Comrade Dirty Donny* and the repubes are goosing this process...and thereby further weakening America.
There are a lot of stories like this on the net.
Saudi Arabia buying up farmland in US
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/15/saudi-arabia-buying-up-farmland-in-us-southwest.html
* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,315 posts)Under Reagan, it was Wall Street buying up farms bankrupted by Reaganomics.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)By Johnathan Hettinger and Robert Holly with additional reporting by Jelter Meers/Midwest Center for Investigative Reporting
June 22, 2017
Link: https://investigatemidwest.org/2017/06/22/foreign-investment-into-u-s-farmland-on-the-rise/
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In an overlooked part of the deal, Shuanghui also acquired more than 146,000 acres of farmland across the United States, worth more than $500 million, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data.
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Indeed, over the past decade, foreign companies have been investing in agricultural land in the United States at a record pace, according to a Midwest Center for Investigative Reporting analysis of USDA data. The data was compiled from 1900 to 2014 under the Agricultural Foreign Investment Disclosure Act (AFIDA).
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The database shows that between 2004 and 2014, the amount of agricultural land held by foreign investors doubled from 13.7 million acres to 27.3 million acres an area roughly the size of Tennessee.
It's not only foreign control of land that is of concern. It's also the fact that they're helping to suck our aquifers and river systems dry (along with greedy Americans).
Therefore, in summary, America is loosing precious water table and farm land so Saudis can feed their cows, horses and camels, enabled by our buying their oil. China is enabled by our buying megatons of their cheap merchandise.