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applegrove

(118,499 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:41 AM Feb 2019

I don't know if trolls started this but we need to be wary. Remember Nancy Pelosi

was the enemy of the left in the year before the 2018 elections?
She is amazing. She was amazing before. The right wing trolls nitpicking happened to democratic perceptions in the middle and we almost jettisoned her. So too will many of our Democratic nominees be so alienated. Don't fall for the ridiculous. If we let the GOP nitpick then they will have picked who our 2020 nominee is by the time it is over.


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I don't know if trolls started this but we need to be wary. Remember Nancy Pelosi (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2019 OP
good grief jcgoldie Feb 2019 #1
Most black people I know put hot sauce on greens Empowerer Feb 2019 #11
Huh? What does hot sauce on greens have to do with Harris or Pelosi? brush Feb 2019 #2
Harris is being nitpicked. Nancy was too. I'm drawing parallels and applegrove Feb 2019 #5
This makes no sense. Hot sauce on greens is normal... brush Feb 2019 #8
"Nitpicking to control the perceptions of a group (Democrats). Watch for it." FM123 Feb 2019 #31
And the nitpicking doesn't have to be a real reason for criticism. Just so long as applegrove Feb 2019 #41
Maybe they're recycling the Hillary Hot Sauce conspiracy theory. betsuni Feb 2019 #3
Yeah, it was actually Hillary who Cha Feb 2019 #21
I'm sending Kamala a big bottle of hot sauce and a special note ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #4
lol.. it was Hillary who was Cha Feb 2019 #22
Hi Cha! ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #35
I'm as southern as we come. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #6
This! Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #9
Right! Rodney Scott's is on my bucket list. But... GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #16
Lol...agreed Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #17
I was raised in Louisiana and Arkansas. We favored turnips and Mustard greens. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #18
"even Crystal" BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author dameatball Feb 2019 #45
On greens, that is exactly my order of preference as well. I think Crystal is underrated. dameatball Feb 2019 #47
Be aware of Trolls bearing . . . criticisms Aussie105 Feb 2019 #7
lol.. you tell 'em, Aussie! Cha Feb 2019 #23
If you base who you vote for on whether they use .. CatMor Feb 2019 #10
Harris and Warren are both being Hillaried Trueblue Texan Feb 2019 #12
Yeah, says everything about their Cha Feb 2019 #24
Also... Trueblue Texan Feb 2019 #13
It makes sense that they are going at her about her DURHAM D Feb 2019 #14
Shouldn't you have a sarcasm smilie at the end of your first paragraph? applegrove Feb 2019 #15
No to your first question. DURHAM D Feb 2019 #19
Attacking someone in the south for putting hot sauce on greens!!??!! GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #20
It's not just the GOP. Unless you consider BOBers GOP. I think most of those who fall for this seaglass Feb 2019 #25
Shit! Soxfan58 Feb 2019 #26
I always put pepper sauce on greens. Whatever is available. dameatball Feb 2019 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author dameatball Feb 2019 #36
If this is a deal breaker for someone, they never intended to vote for that person airmid Feb 2019 #28
But her emails ¡!!! uponit7771 Feb 2019 #29
This is like the time they slammed President Obama padah513 Feb 2019 #30
Frickin condiments again. Meanwhile, their guy is selling our military to Russia. Squinch Feb 2019 #32
They got after Kirsten Gillibrand for eating fried chicken with a fork, too. GoCubsGo Feb 2019 #34
What good is an omelet without hot sauce??? dameatball Feb 2019 #37
Yeah. Also, the "she is not black enough" posts on social media are mind boggling. demmiblue Feb 2019 #38
I can't remember ever sitting down for Sunday dinner OriginalGeek Feb 2019 #39
Hell, I miss her and I never even met her! nolabear Feb 2019 #43
Yes they are! OriginalGeek Feb 2019 #44
I never use hot sauce on anything, and I could never vote for someone... Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #40
Good God. Hot sauce on black eyed peas and greens is just good eatin'. nolabear Feb 2019 #42
If a hot sauce scandal is the best they've got then Kamala has nothing to worry about. honest.abe Feb 2019 #46

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
11. Most black people I know put hot sauce on greens
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:03 AM
Feb 2019

But, then again, we pretty much put hot sauce on everything.

brush

(53,743 posts)
2. Huh? What does hot sauce on greens have to do with Harris or Pelosi?
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:46 AM
Feb 2019

And many of course many put hot sauce on greens in the black community.

applegrove

(118,499 posts)
5. Harris is being nitpicked. Nancy was too. I'm drawing parallels and
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:51 AM
Feb 2019

saying with Nancy it was GOP trolls. And so many fell for it. Expect it during the Democratic nomination race. Don't fall for it. Maybe it was GOP trolls with this hot sauce thing or maybe not. Be wary of those who would fight a candidate without referencing their character, their talents or their policy positions. I've seen psychopaths use nitpicking to re-create the perceptions of people they want to control. It is a common technique with abusers, misogynists or harrassers. Nitpicking to control the perceptions of a group (democrats). Watch for it.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
31. "Nitpicking to control the perceptions of a group (Democrats). Watch for it."
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:44 AM
Feb 2019

Bingo Bingo Bingo!!!

applegrove

(118,499 posts)
41. And the nitpicking doesn't have to be a real reason for criticism. Just so long as
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 06:59 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:02 PM - Edit history (1)

it alienates democrats from their great candidates and turns into a meme - the GOP will be happy. We should call it astroturf nit-picketing.

Cha

(296,857 posts)
21. Yeah, it was actually Hillary who
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 05:21 AM
Feb 2019

was mocked because she carried hot sauce in her bag.

I remember seeing a pic of Hillary in some campaign chowing down on Tacos! lol



Yes, recycled material.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. I'm sending Kamala a big bottle of hot sauce and a special note
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:49 AM
Feb 2019

I'm going to let her know that, just when I thought I couldn't love her any more, she ups and does something that relates to me on a personal level. I LOVE HOT SAUCE!!!

Kamala

Hot sauce

Kamala + hot sauce =

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
6. I'm as southern as we come.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:51 AM
Feb 2019

I can’t imagine a dinner with greens, at home or out, without a bottle of peppers in vinegar or at least a bottle of hot sauce on the table.

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
9. This!
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:59 AM
Feb 2019

The only shameful thing about the Harris "hot sauce" incident is that she used Texas Pete, lol!! Can't have greens without hot sauce though!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
16. Right! Rodney Scott's is on my bucket list. But...
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:17 AM
Feb 2019

Texas Pete’s? If nothing else I would use it! But sport peppers in vinegar with a little sugar is the classic and what you find on all rural Southern tables. Mainly in homes, not restaurants.

If not that at least give me Tabasco or even Crystal. But my Louisiana roots are showings!

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
17. Lol...agreed
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:21 AM
Feb 2019

That little jar of peppers in vinegar is a must!

I've heard Rodney Scott's is incredible, although I readily admit to being biased toward Memphis BBQ rather than Carolina, but I love it all. Harris has given me motivation to make a road trip!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. I was raised in Louisiana and Arkansas. We favored turnips and Mustard greens.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:29 AM
Feb 2019

But after 32 years in Florida I know these South East Southerns are all about collards. Which I love but not like mustard greens.

Hot sauce here is more common than pepper sauce but both are often available.

Harris is from California but with Jamaican heritage. They have a real greens tradition there. Can recall the name of the greens but is served very hot.

BumRushDaShow

(128,506 posts)
33. "even Crystal"
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:03 AM
Feb 2019

Grew up with Crystal in my household here in Philly. Now I have 3 different mainstream brands to use depending on what I make (Crystal, Frank's, Louisiana).

Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #16)

dameatball

(7,395 posts)
47. On greens, that is exactly my order of preference as well. I think Crystal is underrated.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:46 PM
Feb 2019

I probably have at least seven varieties of hot sauce on hand, but the "heavier" stuff I don't use on greens.

Aussie105

(5,334 posts)
7. Be aware of Trolls bearing . . . criticisms
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:54 AM
Feb 2019

Surely Trolls can do a lot better?

Not eating enough vegetables myself, discovered some semi hot Habanero sauce makes them more palatable.

Discovered this by myself, living far, far away in Australia.

Go Kamala, hot sauce on your greens? I'd vote for you if I could, just because of this!

Come on Trolls, lift your game! Where is the complaints about wearing the wrong colour clothes, shade of makeup, not treating Entitled White Male Fossils with the respect they think they deserve, etc?

Cha

(296,857 posts)
23. lol.. you tell 'em, Aussie!
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 05:27 AM
Feb 2019

Welcome to DU.

My son-in-law is from Melbourne and my grandson is at the University of Melbourne in Medical school now.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
10. If you base who you vote for on whether they use ..
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:00 AM
Feb 2019

hot sauce or not on their greens then you shouldn't vote. It is so ridiculous it's mind boggling.

Trueblue Texan

(2,420 posts)
13. Also...
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:12 AM
Feb 2019

Ima have to try hot sauce on greens now. Can't believe I never thought of it! Been putting pepper sauce on them for years but never tried them with hot sauce.

DURHAM D

(32,606 posts)
14. It makes sense that they are going at her about her
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:13 AM
Feb 2019

eating style because she has good hair. Thank god she has great hair but they must find something.

Same as Hillary. She has good hair so they went after her hot sauce use.

I have noticed that Kamala usually wears pants. Pretty sure that will become an issue at some point.

applegrove

(118,499 posts)
15. Shouldn't you have a sarcasm smilie at the end of your first paragraph?
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:17 AM
Feb 2019

You are not saying that some hair is better than others yourself are you?

DURHAM D

(32,606 posts)
19. No to your first question.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:31 AM
Feb 2019

Your second question is muddled. But, both Kamala and Hillary have better hair than I do. It is a thing.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. Attacking someone in the south for putting hot sauce on greens!!??!!
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:36 AM
Feb 2019

Next they will try attacking her for eating grits in the south. Clearly a bunch of New Englanders! From my experience up there they still think salt and pepper are the only appropriate spices. Heavy on the salt, light on the pepper!

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
25. It's not just the GOP. Unless you consider BOBers GOP. I think most of those who fall for this
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:44 AM
Feb 2019

crap already left for JPR.

Response to dameatball (Reply #27)

airmid

(500 posts)
28. If this is a deal breaker for someone, they never intended to vote for that person
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:06 AM
Feb 2019

to start with. I think the field of Democaratic candidates is wonderful and I will have no problem voting for any of them.

padah513

(2,496 posts)
30. This is like the time they slammed President Obama
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:42 AM
Feb 2019

For putting Dijon mustard on his hamburger. Can't find any dirt so they nitpick about nothing. And I won't eat greens any other way. I prefer a turnip/mustard mix over collards though. Something about that bitter taste just does it for me.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
34. They got after Kirsten Gillibrand for eating fried chicken with a fork, too.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:15 AM
Feb 2019

The trolls aren't "in it early." They never stopped. They just expanded to other women. This is a good reminder to stay vigilant against these fucks.

And, FWIW, I'm white, and I put hot sauce on my greens, too. Can't eat 'em without it.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
39. I can't remember ever sitting down for Sunday dinner
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 06:53 PM
Feb 2019

at my mother-in-law's house and there not being a) A huge pot of greens and b) A bottle of pepper sauce.

And if Aunt Mattielee was in town, homemade pepper jelly.

Man I miss Aunt Mattielee.

Wounded Bear

(58,603 posts)
40. I never use hot sauce on anything, and I could never vote for someone...
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 06:56 PM
Feb 2019

who whines about other people who do.

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
42. Good God. Hot sauce on black eyed peas and greens is just good eatin'.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:13 PM
Feb 2019

There are reasons why five hundred kinds of hot sauce are made in Louisiana. There’s a market! Slap Ya Mama, Ass in the Tub, regular old Tobasco, it’s ALL good!

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