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Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:48 AM Feb 2019

Defining the Dem primary "lanes"

The political,punditry is really into this.
Every time someone else enters the race, the talk is about lane.
Are they very liberal, liberal, moderate, etc.

So, playing along.
Let’s assume these unannounced Dems all get in.
Swalwell, Hickenlooper, Brown, Sanders, Biden.
(also assuming Beto and Bloomberg and Bennett don’t run).

Add them to the announced Dems, are these the lanes?

Most liberal: Sanders, Warren

Liberal: Harris, Buttigieg, Swalwell, Brown, Klobuchar, Castro, Gillibrand

Moderate: Hickenlooper, Biden, Gabbard , Booker

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Defining the Dem primary "lanes" (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Feb 2019 OP
Gabbard isn't a moderate. lark Feb 2019 #1
I really didn't know where to put her. Funtatlaguy Feb 2019 #3
There needs to be a "Jill Stein" lane, for Russia's favorites. lark Feb 2019 #4
... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #8
Ditto Lark JustAnotherGen Feb 2019 #13
The $64,000 question - what kind of political philosophy does it take to win in America? walkingman Feb 2019 #2
This is simply more of the Horse Race Nonsense, polling, lanes or whatever to fill airtime Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #5
True. Funtatlaguy Feb 2019 #6
My point is Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #16
Sorry, Harris ranks as the most liberal Senator. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #7
I knew that. I'm talking about "perception ". Funtatlaguy Feb 2019 #9
Everyone has an opinion. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #10
Indeed. But, Trump ushered in a post factual era. Funtatlaguy Feb 2019 #11
Which is only cured by injecting fact. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #12
If we just stuck to facts, Hillary would be president comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #18
Thanks - I'm all over here like JustAnotherGen Feb 2019 #14
Here's my swim lane analysis JustAnotherGen Feb 2019 #15
The lanes as I see them CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #17
I like your lanes. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #19

lark

(23,061 posts)
1. Gabbard isn't a moderate.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:51 AM
Feb 2019

She's a pretend Dem whos really a republican but is Hawaiian so has to run as a Democrat. She should not be considered as part of the pack since RT loves her so much.

walkingman

(7,580 posts)
2. The $64,000 question - what kind of political philosophy does it take to win in America?
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:52 AM
Feb 2019

In the case of the GOP it was clearly "extreme wacko". Is this just "white people" thing or does it play across party lines.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
5. This is simply more of the Horse Race Nonsense, polling, lanes or whatever to fill airtime
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:55 AM
Feb 2019

The narrative is designed to keep everyone worked up, agitated and distracted, worried that "their" candidate is up or down according to the polling and latest whatever. It is rarely if ever a discussion of the issues. It is offers a wide variety of what-ifs, conjecture and high pitched noise.

It goes like this......

This week She is up until there is a hiccup of some small issue blown way out of proportion in the Breathless 24/7 Cable Noise Infotainment. Next Week He's up and doing well in some obscure poll with 12 people and a cat responding, but Oh Noes, by week end a new face has entered the run and all the oxygen is taken out of the room. Followed by the discovery that as a child the fresh face pushed another kid in the hall way in grammar school so that will take several news cycles between the pharmaceutical ads to discuss. Week 4 She will make a strong speech and return to the top of the polling, but will it be enough to overcome the whispered stories of her 3rd cousin 14 times removed being addicted to Snickers Bars? In the meantime He will get tongue tied during an interview having not had enough sleep and there will be questions of his age and can he really serve? The Fresh Face will suddenly soar to the top on word of a fundraiser far exceeding its goals of $12.47.

Rinse and repeat but be sure to allow time for more ads for drugs we never knew we needed and the anchors hawking their latest books on The Crisis in the Media.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
6. True.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:03 AM
Feb 2019

I do think there is a little bit to it when it comes to a few candidates.
I see Warren and Sanders being the most similar on their policy positions.
Both from the Northeast. Both very strong and forceful in their delivery.
I think they will appeal to the same pool of voters.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
16. My point is
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:03 PM
Feb 2019

I am not looking to or accepting any characterization of any of the candidates from Cable Infotainment and I would hope that others see CNN, MSNBC and certainly Fox for what they are Infotainment which does occasionally brush up against journalism, but rarely and only if there isn't any talking head spouting some opinion to fill the air time between drug ads.

I have turned the lot of them off and am still very much informed along with having lower blood pressure.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
9. I knew that. I'm talking about "perception ".
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:14 AM
Feb 2019

Because of her being a “tough prosecutor”, I think she moves down from Warren and Sanders.
She might also equivocate on ending private insurance for Medicare for all like the other two.
And being a self described Democratic Socialist, Media always pegs Sanders as most liberal.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
10. Everyone has an opinion.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:22 AM
Feb 2019

Wouldn’t it be great if we could just stick facts into those perceptions?

That’s my plan anyway.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
11. Indeed. But, Trump ushered in a post factual era.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:25 AM
Feb 2019

Many in the media have gone along or even been complicit.
Therefore, sadly, sometimes “perception is reality “.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
14. Thanks - I'm all over here like
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:55 AM
Feb 2019

Uh - Warren was a Republican and held strong to those beliefs when Kamala and I were young black women in the 1990's. IE Contract on America - or as Pat Buchanan has admitted - Contract on Black Women Making them America's boogeyman.


And - Sanders doesn't have the gun legislation background or environmental background to be die hard liberal. Economically progressive - yes? But he fails in that lane when we look at his almost 40 year political career.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
15. Here's my swim lane analysis
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:57 AM
Feb 2019

Democratic Party Candidates in the General Election:

Sanders, Warren, Harris, Buttigieg, Swalwell, Brown, Klobuchar, Castro, Gillibrand, Hickenlooper, Biden, Gabbard , Booker

Vile Disgusting Filth -
45 and Mr. Mother

 

CrossingTheRubicon

(731 posts)
17. The lanes as I see them
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:23 PM
Feb 2019

Liberal: Biden, Booker, Warren, Harris, Buttigieg, Swalwell, Brown, Klobuchar, Castro, Gillibrand, Hickenlooper

Least liberal: Sanders

Arch-conservative: Gabbard

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