What if a real disaster happens?

[Cyrano]

What if the Hoover Dam broke and released millions of tons of water?

What if ...

Oh, shit. Pick your own disaster.

My real question is what if another horrible disaster happens with this moron in the White House?

You just know he'll sit there sucking his thumb and wondering who he can blame it on.

In truth, we had a real disaster last year. Puerto Rico was devastated and all the fool did was toss around paper towels. This should have been enough to remove him from office. But countless Puerto Rican Americans died because he didn't declare a national emergency. Who knows how many could have been saved if all of our military resources has been deployed?

A dangerous fool is in charge of the White House and is the one who declares national emergencies. All you can do is hope that some horrors: fires; hurricanes; tornadoes; earthquakes; floods; or meteor strikes don't hit your neighborhood.

If any of this happens, expect tons of thoughts and prayers from Trump and the Republicans. But not much more. After all, the country we used to call America is fucked up beyond repair.

Here's the reality. We have a president that doesn't get it and doesn't give a fuck whether you live or die. This horrible, clueless man has been responsible for deaths in Puerto Rico and who knows where else. How many more people will suffer and/or die because we are insane enough to let this creature continue to be a totally insane occupant of the Oval Office?

[samplegirl]

1. Well said!

All trump really cares about is tanks and an airplane that lands and disburses his ass for the July parade he’s planing! Just like his make believe apprentice show with a briefcase in his hand taking a victory lap over his glorious wall. 🤮

[mahina]

24. Listen to The author of The Fifth Risk in Preet Bharara's podcast.

Search podcasts for Stay Tuned with Preet Dec 12 2018. It’s riveting.

The fifth risk is Michael lewis’s book.

Adding this link just because it’s the longest interview I could find. I don’t know how to post the podcast link securely but it’s tge best interview with him I’ve heard.

He interviewed people in our govt who are charged with risk assessment. . It’s a really good lesson, if chilling.

Barack and Michelle Obama have acquired the rights to the book for a possible Netflix series to better understand the U.S. Government.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. You've nailed it.

The border crisis exists only in Trump's mind.

But the millions without health insurance in not a crisis. The growing wealth inequality is not a crisis. The systematic murder of African Americans is not a crisis. The underfunding of K-12 schools is not a crisis, nor is the high cost of secondary education.

The list goes on.

[RHMerriman]

4. Is your state government on top of disaster planning?

Is your state government on top of disaster planning? If you don't know, start asking your local state legislator and emergency services specialist (city/county/etc/).

If they aren't, start raising hell over it with your local and state electeds. Every state, county, and city has a office of emergency services or something equivalent, but they are funded and prioritized by local elected officials. If they are professionally organized, get involved.

If your are physically capable, get involved and go through a CERT training course:

[link:https://www.ready.gov/community-emergency-response-team|]

If you have special training or experience, look into volunteering for the Coast Guard Auxiliary, the Civil Air Patrol, the Red Cross, or similar organizations. They always need volunteers.

In any disaster, odds are you and your neighbors need to be able to provide your basic needs for at least 72 hours; research what that would mean in your community and start taking action.

Semper paratus

[KY_EnviroGuy]

20. K&R. Good points, RHM. Local preparedness is essential.

It's amazing how many parts of the country implemented emergency preparedness measures and budgets only AFTER a bad disaster struck. Therefore, those who have not experienced one may be most poorly prepared.

And, as you suggested, in addition to determining ways we can be of help, it's wise for all families to think through what they would do in situations with loss of communications, power supply, medical care and food supply for an extended period.

I might add that in many locals, local fire and police departments are good sources of info on emergency preparedness because they must participate in readiness drills quite frequently and should know existing systems well.

...........

[RHMerriman]

21. Yep ... God (and FEMA) help those who help themselves...

Yep ... God (and FEMA) help those who help themselves...

The CERT curriculum is pretty straightforward, and worth reading over even absent the coursework and certification.

[scarytomcat]

5. We are in the middle of one now

Climate change is happening and is picking up speed and the White House sits on its hands. Republicans deny it. The world waits for our leadership.

[samplegirl]

6. Exactly

They know Dems will cave if we let it!

[Grasswire2]

7. what if another country attempts to take advantage of our weak, compromised Commander In Chief?

China, perhaps?

Iran?

Trump will first get advice from the Kremlin on how to respond.

He will believe enemies rather than our own military or intelligence.

[Initech]

9. Well he's already been compromised by two - Russia and the Saudis.

A third in the mix would be a shit show indeed!

[erronis]

11. A small mid-western city obliterated followed by promises to do more of this

promises coming from donnie's best boy friend.

I would expect donnie to take his favorite position and tell the american people "There are fine people on both sides."

[Bucky]

8. You mean like the globe passing the fabled "tipping point" toward climate change?

Truth be told, we actually crossed that Rubicon about 6 years ago. It'll be about managing the chaos for the rest of this century. And yes, a lot of people are going to die because humans couldn't control their own carbon emissions.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

10. Not if,

when.

[roamer65]

12. My fear is a major earthquake in CA.

We don’t have the leadership or finances to handle it.

[maryellen99]

13. Mine is a disease outbreak nt

[RHMerriman]

22. Define "major"...

Define "major"...

And When you say "leadership or finances" who, exactly, do you see as lacking in leadership? The governor? The other state constitutional officers? The Legislature? The Adjutant-General? The state OES director?

[link:https://www.caloes.ca.gov/|]

Who, in your opinion, is "lacking" in terms of leadership on disaster preparedness in California?

[proud patriot]

14. perhaps he'll have his

"brownie you're doing a heck of job moment"

[Generic Brad]

15. Like if Russians took over the Executive branch and compromised members of Congress?

That would be an unthinkable disaster.

[littlemissmartypants]

16. You mean like Florence and Michael?

Where I live we're still mucking out houses, trying to find hotels rooms to rent, get keys to FEMA trailers, find reputable roofers to replace tarps with shingles, get coats for children, furniture for houses, food for families, trees cut up and hauled out and miles of ruined household debris picked up off the roadside. Just to name a few things.

There are over 500 abandoned cats who need rehoming and food in my county.

That kind of disaster?

And if you have time look up Robeson county, NC. It's even worse there. Huge swaths of housing have been abandoned. Truly, I can't think of a place that hasn't been hit and isn't suffering from their own special hell.

One affluent neighborhood lost everyhouse and every neighbor but one and they've been trying to keep it a secret that they've All moved out and aren't coming back. They're lucky. They have money. But they were still hit hard having just recovered from Floyd, not too long ago. I guess the sight of dead bloated hogs and hundreds of drowned chickens, floating down the street in your multimillion dollar neighborhood twice in less than twenty years is a tipping point.

I could go on but I don't want you to think there aren't others worse off, because there certainly are and they will be living their disasters for years to come.

[Wounded Bear]

17. You mean like Maria in Puerto Rico?

We already have examples of how Trump will respond.

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[littlemissmartypants]

19. Exactly. nt

[eppur_se_muova]

32. Ditto. Even Dems are forgetting about this ! nt

[KY_EnviroGuy]

18. Standardized Republican Emergency Response Plan:

1. First, look at how Repug-friendly corporations can profit from the disaster.
2. Next, look for any and all ways of minimizing government involvement.
3. List the absolute minimum items that must be done and how to delay and minimize costs.
4. Energize the Repug/Evangelical Tots and Pears Generator and flood them into all media outlets.
5. Clothe yourself in tough-guy jackets and hats for publicly showing off your ass.
6. Energize your Repug spin machinery, then go on TeeVee and blame Democrats for the disaster.
7. Go on Faux TeeVee and blame Democrats for poor and slow government response, then brag about what a great job you've done.

Straight from a well-used play book. That's Repug emergency leadership in a nutshell.......

[Grasswire2]

23. my greatest fear (and I hesitate to even mention it)..

..is an assassination of some kind. Not of him. But of someone else, done by one of his demented minions or thugs, and it might be a false flag attack on someone on the right.

That would take things to a whole other level of chaos.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

25. Why NOT him ?

[Grasswire2]

27. by his own people?

I like to think that our side is too law-abiding to consider such an action.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

28. Of course by his own people !!

They're the one that are armed to the teeth.

Think about how he has screwed over farmers or coal miners or those who were counting on a hefty IRS refund or just about anyone else he has butt-fucked in the last two years.

[robbob]

30. A few months ago I considered starting a thread about the Rethugs big problem with tRump

Either right before or after the midterms. I think it was all the “the reThug party will never recover from tRump, they are doomed for the next 50 years...” etc etc. Started me thinking, what WOULD the right wing PTB be willing to do in the face of losing all political power?

One scenario that occurred to me was an assassination, or attempt, on the source of all their problems, set up to look like it was perpetrated by a LEFT wing activist. If DT was brought down by a left wing patsy (who of course would be killed in the ensuing confusion), that sets him up as a martyr for the great white cause.

I didn’t post the thread because I thought it read to much like a badly crafted Bourne novel, but in these days, who knows...

[Grasswire2]

33. yes, false flag something that must be feared

It would begin the civil war that they threaten if he is removed.

I can even see how Russia might take him out, in order to bring about mass hysteria on the right and weaponize them against the rest of us.

Stranger things have happened in world history.

[Locrian]

31. yes that or a terrorist (not white male) attack

He doesn't give a damn about climate change, hurricanes, etc

But he would LOOOOOOVE to get his followers (and the media, defense industry etc) all hard if there was something he could claim as an attack.

[onecaliberal]

26. It's not just him. It's his whole party. They could stop him, but they don't.

[Recursion]

29. If the President announced a missile launch from North Korea, would you believe him?

That question has haunted me since Trump took office.