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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:26 AM Feb 2019

***The Official "I voted for Bernie in the 2016 Primary, but won't do it again this time" Thread

I of course voted for Hillary in the General Election.

I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter who it turns out to be.

Check in if you did the same last time.

Or don't, I'm not your boss or your mom and can't tell you what to do. I was just looking to see how many Bernie supporters weren't supporting him this go round.

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***The Official "I voted for Bernie in the 2016 Primary, but won't do it again this time" Thread (Original Post) NightWatcher Feb 2019 OP
I won't vote for anyone in the primary temporary311 Feb 2019 #1
That has been my position for sometime now. still_one Feb 2019 #7
Ditto. Our caucus in Kansas isn't friendly... Blue_playwright Feb 2019 #13
Bernie cleaned house in Kansas MuseRider Feb 2019 #14
I think that is a good policy, one I will adopt going forward, for sure. Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #28
I wish Hillary would run again. I'd vote for her again. And again. And again until the nightmare is dawg day Feb 2019 #53
Me. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #2
me too. ginnyinWI Feb 2019 #8
yep! Zoonart Feb 2019 #3
I love Bernie. He is a very good man. Dennis Donovan Feb 2019 #4
Bernie is a good man, but he's not a member of our Party FakeNoose Feb 2019 #17
+1. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2019 #5
Holding Out For Sherrod Brown ChoppinBroccoli Feb 2019 #6
Comfortable with Brown, and Warren, and Harris, and Klobuchar, and blm Feb 2019 #11
not this time Afromania Feb 2019 #9
I will vote for who aligns with my positions the best Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #10
I saw that, too. And I saw some longtime Dem friends of mine fall for posts blm Feb 2019 #12
They still believe the Dem Primaries were rigged today Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #15
Me! There are a ton of great new fresh candidates. Dem_4_Life Feb 2019 #16
Me. W_HAMILTON Feb 2019 #18
Sorry, not this time. DinahMoeHum Feb 2019 #19
Me Tracyjo Feb 2019 #20
That selection set.. kmla Feb 2019 #21
I love Bernie spinbaby Feb 2019 #22
It's way too soon for me to be making a primary decision PTWB Feb 2019 #23
I like Bernie a lot marlakay Feb 2019 #24
I did and I learned to regret it OriginalGeek Feb 2019 #25
Checkin in Wawannabe Feb 2019 #26
In the words of Kraemer rufus dog Feb 2019 #27
I would have voted for him, but I had the flu and couldn't get out of bed lilactime Feb 2019 #29
I am one who voted for him in the primary last time and won't even consider him this time.. lark Feb 2019 #30
I like Bernie and voted for him in the primary kacekwl Feb 2019 #31
Me. mindfulNJ Feb 2019 #32
I'm out this time Bettie Feb 2019 #33
I did NOT vote for him and i won't vote for him again. WE NEED JOE. trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #37
I voted for him in the last primary utopian Feb 2019 #34
I liked both of our candidates last time around, and haven't decided who I'll vote for this time fishwax Feb 2019 #35
I did Leith Feb 2019 #36
I have no idea who I'll vote for in the primary and I did vote for Bernie in NH last time. Vinca Feb 2019 #38
I believe in cross-over voting. n/t Lucid Dreamer Feb 2019 #39
Voted for Bernie in the primary last time.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #40
Hillary Clinton All the Way erpowers Feb 2019 #41
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #42
Because of course they didn't.. Cha Feb 2019 #46
Hey Cha! smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #50
I do trust Cha Feb 2019 #51
I really like Bernie but didn't vote for him in 2016 and won't in 2020 struggle4progress Feb 2019 #43
me not_the_one Feb 2019 #44
Checking in.. denbot Feb 2019 #45
I haven't respected BS since 2012 when Cha Feb 2019 #47
I don't know who yet DVRacer Feb 2019 #48
I voted for Bernie and I can't wait to vote for him again. rgbecker Feb 2019 #49
I liked Bernie but I can't listen to him now. Qutzupalotl Feb 2019 #52
No Trump, No Bush, No Clinton, No Sanders. roamer65 Feb 2019 #54
In 2020 I won't vote for anyone who has already run for president AlexSFCA Feb 2019 #55
No in the primary because . . . DeltaLitProf Feb 2019 #56
Voted for Bernie in 2016, won't do it in 2020. LuvNewcastle Feb 2019 #57

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
13. Ditto. Our caucus in Kansas isn't friendly...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:57 AM
Feb 2019

To people with jobs and children. I have yet to vote in a primary.

That said my daughter is now 18 and will likely try to vote in the caucus for Bernie. Call me ageist but I want younger, fresh meat that can do eight years. I love Bernie and Biden. But nope.

MuseRider

(34,103 posts)
14. Bernie cleaned house in Kansas
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:07 AM
Feb 2019

last time. I think our caucus has tried very hard to move forward but it is one step forward and 5 steps back. Still, it is better than it was 15 years ago.

If Bernie is still in I will likely give him my primary. I really want him to continue what he has been doing but since he is running I need to think about it so I start optimistic but there is a long way to go and I do need to see what the deal is with his taxes. That bothers me a lot. We need to know this.

Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)
28. I think that is a good policy, one I will adopt going forward, for sure.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:59 PM
Feb 2019

I gave my heart and soul to supporting Hillary, but I would be terrified to do it again. We need a fresh, new start after this to win, not re-runs. I LOVE Joe Biden, but I hope he will put his considerable popularity and energy into backing one of our great Democratic candidates like Harris.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
53. I wish Hillary would run again. I'd vote for her again. And again. And again until the nightmare is
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:58 AM
Feb 2019

reversed.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
8. me too.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:37 AM
Feb 2019

Right now I like Klobuchar, but I also think the ideal candidate would be a governor of a state, not a senator.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. I love Bernie. He is a very good man.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:29 AM
Feb 2019

My primary vote is earmarked for someone who has not yet declared. Should this person not run, then I'll back Bernie, and will back the ultimate Democratic nominee.

FakeNoose

(32,610 posts)
17. Bernie is a good man, but he's not a member of our Party
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:22 AM
Feb 2019

I believe that's the point. Our own Democratic candidates deserve to be considered first and foremost.

blm

(113,037 posts)
11. Comfortable with Brown, and Warren, and Harris, and Klobuchar, and
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:44 AM
Feb 2019

will be happy with and determined to vote for the Dem nominee, whoever wins the nomination. I trust Dem primary voters.

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
9. not this time
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:37 AM
Feb 2019

Last edited Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)

There is a lot of work that will need to get done outside of the presidency. I'm not saying he wouldn't be a good president or anything but he's not going to get the plurality of the Democratic vote. Then because of the cult of personality he has with a good chunk of his "base. There is the possibility for more infighting.

We don't need that, and if he was being real he'd lay off being president and keep on putting up the good fight on the ground like he's been doing. However, he's already showed us that he doesn't roll like that.
Which is why, unless he somehow gets the Democratic nod, I can't support him again in the primaries.

Johnny2X2X

(19,001 posts)
10. I will vote for who aligns with my positions the best
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:42 AM
Feb 2019

Same thing I did last time. Bernie and Hillary were 2 sides of the same coin, they were very closely aligned on almost every issue. I voted for Bernie, but supported and campaigned for Hillary in the GE. I love the field we have so far!

No problem with Bernie last time nor this time around. Now it's a fact that the Russian Troll farms got their messages about Hillary started with Bernie supporters, that cannot be ignored and should be revisited because I don't think people are admitting they got duped. But the Russian Troll farms are going to attack whoever the Dem front runner is this time around, we need to be aware and ready.

blm

(113,037 posts)
12. I saw that, too. And I saw some longtime Dem friends of mine fall for posts
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:48 AM
Feb 2019

that were crafted to benefit only one purpose ..... elect Trump.

Johnny2X2X

(19,001 posts)
15. They still believe the Dem Primaries were rigged today
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:07 AM
Feb 2019

Admitting you fell for it is really hard to do. I have college educated really progressive friends who I've shown literal proof to that posts they were sharing and spreading were Russian generated fake stories and they still cannot accept it.

Propaganda is so powerful. I remember Bernie fans were posting financials from the Clinton Foundation with messages of, "look, they give a pittance in grants and spend 90% of their money running the foundation!!! So Crooked!!!" You could share with them the fact that the Clinton Foundation spends its money on running itself because unlike some charitable foundations they don't just donate their money to causes they like, but they actually perform the charity work themselves. The Clinton Foundation employs doctors, researchers, and a whole host of workers who actually fly AIDS drugs to foreign countries, set up hospitals, and administer the life saving drugs to the afflicted. That's where their money goes. It's an A rated charity who has helped millions of poor people globally. That's easy to show, but even when you do people still won't let go.

I don't know how to fight Russian propaganda. I'm not sure anyone really knows how.

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
19. Sorry, not this time.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:39 AM
Feb 2019

He wasn't a known quantity to me back in 2015-16.

Now that I've learned more about him, AFAIC, he's damaged goods.

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
22. I love Bernie
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:25 PM
Feb 2019

But he’s too old. And I say that as someone who is also old. We need some young blood.

My favorite at the moment is Kamala Harris. I think she gives off the same calm and control vibe as Obama.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
23. It's way too soon for me to be making a primary decision
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:26 PM
Feb 2019

And I will not rule out voting for Bernie in the primary. I will say that his competition is fierce and I am far less likely to vote for him in the primary this time around.

marlakay

(11,440 posts)
24. I like Bernie a lot
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:31 PM
Feb 2019

But this time I want someone new. I am just not looking forward to the primary fighting.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
25. I did and I learned to regret it
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:31 PM
Feb 2019

I was a victim of the anti-Hillary propaganda. I still proudly voted for her in the General (by then I had been better educated) but if I hadn't been such an easy mark and kind of stupid, I would have voted for her in the primary too.

This time around I'm a fan of several of the already-announced candidates (Harris and Klobuchar are probably top two right now) and I liked what I heard this morning on NPR from Mayor Pete.

lilactime

(657 posts)
29. I would have voted for him, but I had the flu and couldn't get out of bed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:59 PM
Feb 2019

during the 2016 primary in my state. Of course I voted for Hillary in the general election too.

I'm not voting for Bernie in the 2020 primary. If he's the Democratic candidate I'll vote for him. But the thrill is long gone.

lark

(23,078 posts)
30. I am one who voted for him in the primary last time and won't even consider him this time..
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:14 PM
Feb 2019

His refusal to release his tax returns, his not caring enough to follow up on male staff member(s) harassing females with the campaign, his support for the NRA, all of these and more are the reasons I won't vote for him this time. I also don't like how Russia used him to help drumpf and he didn't call them out on it. I also don't like how he changed to Dem to run for president, then when he lost switched back to Democratic Socialist and now is switching again. It seems like he has zero center, just an arrogance about winning. I hope Dems have gotten smarter and he's not one of the top 2-3 people running for the Democratic party's nomination.

kacekwl

(7,015 posts)
31. I like Bernie and voted for him in the primary
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:40 PM
Feb 2019

but won't this time. I think we need new younger blood and NO baggage attached .

mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
32. Me.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:44 PM
Feb 2019

Voted for Bernie in the CT. Primary but won't do it again. I will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.

utopian

(1,093 posts)
34. I voted for him in the last primary
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:29 PM
Feb 2019

And I'll vote for him in the general election if he, by some miracle, wins the nomination.

I've liked him since the Air America days when I'd listen to Brunch with Bernie on Thom Hartman's show.

I do think economic opportunity is a fundamental issue that relates to many of the other problems facing this country.

But I do not support his campaign this time around. I think we have strong newer voices, and I wish Bernie would help support them rather than tilting at windmills.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
35. I liked both of our candidates last time around, and haven't decided who I'll vote for this time
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:34 PM
Feb 2019

But, as last time, whoever gets the nomination will get my vote in the general.

Leith

(7,808 posts)
36. I did
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:48 PM
Feb 2019

My reason is the one that covers pretty much every action and circumstance: It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Now, I think that Bernie's presidential aspiration time as passed. Not that he should stay quiet because his is a valuable voice against rethugism and tRumpism. He's like the "rents are too damn high" guy. Not a candidate to win, but a voice on issues that hurt real people.

I won't make my decision until next year when my state hold its caucus (or, please please please a primary*). And my choice will be a longstanding member of the Democratic Party.

* Nevada holds caucuses. Last time, the caucus was held in a stuffy room with metal folding chairs a couple few days after I took a tumble down the stairs (not hurt, just banged up a bit). It hurt to sit, it hurt to stand, and it hurt to mosey around the room for hours while breathing air that didn't seem to have oxygen, but was composed of the collective breath of everyone else there.

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
38. I have no idea who I'll vote for in the primary and I did vote for Bernie in NH last time.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:52 PM
Feb 2019

If there if a GOP challenger to the Manbaby, I may cross over and vote for them in an effort to give Trump a loss in the state.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
40. Voted for Bernie in the primary last time..
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:25 PM
Feb 2019

& I will do it again.. with a smile

Gabbard & Warren are also possible...

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
41. Hillary Clinton All the Way
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:30 PM
Feb 2019

I supported Hillary Clinton from beginning to end. This time around I will likely support Amy Klobuchar.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
42. +1000
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:02 AM
Feb 2019

I was a Bernie supporter in the 2016 Primary. Voted for Hillary in the General. I will never vote for Bernie again. I have a story about him from when I lived in Burlington for a year after college, but nobody believed me and I was viciously attacked by the Bernie crowd for spreading false rumors. Even after that, I still voted for him, but he is not the great guy that everyone thinks he is.

Cha

(297,016 posts)
46. Because of course they didn't..
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:24 AM
Feb 2019

I believed you because me and my friends know exactly who he is even without anecdotal evidence.

Smirky

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
44. me
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:08 AM
Feb 2019

Since there were only two choices I did vote for him in the primary, but I lived in NYC and it didn't affect anything.

I was put-off by how nasty he got when criticizing Hillary. That certainly didn't help her in the general. He may have supported her in the end, but I think many of his supporters were so mad by that point, due to his rhetoric, they didn't vote.

With so many more options available this time I don't think he has a chance.

Being older, I want someone younger. That also eliminates Biden.

I think that the voters who are going to save us are the new ones, angry first timers, primarily the younger voters, who may feel that anyone from the establishment is just more of the same. I agree.

Cha

(297,016 posts)
47. I haven't respected BS since 2012 when
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:26 AM
Feb 2019

wanted President Obama primaried.. only he wanted someone else to do it.

I know you didn't ask for me.. but I wanted to kick your thread.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
48. I don't know who yet
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:35 AM
Feb 2019

I’m not going to be nit picking any candidate this year. We do too much of that I just want someone who will win! I don’t care if they are too far left or middle man or woman. I just want the nightmare to end. Be careful of letting anyone drag you too far off in the weeds over any issue United we stand divided we fall.

rgbecker

(4,823 posts)
49. I voted for Bernie and I can't wait to vote for him again.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:40 AM
Feb 2019

Wish I could vote for Hillary again sometime.

Qutzupalotl

(14,296 posts)
52. I liked Bernie but I can't listen to him now.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:52 AM
Feb 2019

For one thing, he sounds like a broken record. But I’m also wistful about what could have been. I think Bernie would have beaten Trump. If Biden had gotten in, he would have beaten everyone. So I’m leaning Biden now. I am pleased that at least some of Bernie’s ideas are going to be debated — no Bernie necessary.

We truly have an embarrassment of riches with all the other good candidates. I just hope we don’t hamstring each other. Unity is essential going into the general election.

DeltaLitProf

(768 posts)
56. No in the primary because . . .
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:03 AM
Feb 2019

. . . I will never forget all those stories David Sirota, who never does a thing without Bernie's say so, published in the International Times about Hillary's emails . . . in OCTOBER of 2016. Sirota is Bernie's journalistic henchman. Just search his stories online. LOTS of attacks on Democatic opponents of Bernie. No stories on Bernie's considerable ethical and electability problems.

LuvNewcastle

(16,843 posts)
57. Voted for Bernie in 2016, won't do it in 2020.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:57 AM
Feb 2019

I'm waiting for my candidate to announce. If he doesn't get in, I'm looking at Sherrod Brown and Elizabeth Warren. I'm not voting for anyone in their 70s unless they're the nominee.

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