Bernie Sanders Bests Kamala Harris' First-Day Donor Total in Four Hours

[Hassin Bin Sober]

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Bernie Sanders Bests Kamala Harris’ First-Day Donor Total in Four Hours

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-sanders-bests-kamala-harris-first-day-donor-total-in-four-hours

In just over the first four hours of his 2020 presidential campaign, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) had already raised money from 42,000 donors, a total that bested the number Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) had hit in the first full day of her campaign. The campaign estimated that Sanders had raised $1.2 million in three-and-a-half hours on Tuesday. The figure is another sign of the incredible money-raising prowess that Sanders brings to the race. Up to this point, Harris had been the most dynamic fundraiser among Democratic candidates in the race, having raised a whopping $1.5 million in 24 hours after declaring from more than 38,000 individual donors. That number, the Harris campaign noted at the time, had surpassed the number of individual donors for Sanders in his first day of running during his 2016 bid. Now, Sanders’ current campaign, says they have already received contributions that beat both of those figures.

[stonecutter357]

1. taxes please !

[RelativelyJones]

2. Indeed...

[Hassin Bin Sober]

9. Lol

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-tax-return-222041

Sanders’ tax return: As ‘boring’ as promised

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders released his 2014 tax returns Friday night, showing that he paid $27,653 in federal taxes on adjusted gross income of $205,271.

The Vermont senator pledged to release the filings during the Democratic debate on Thursday night after sparring with Hillary Clinton over financial disclosure issues.

The majority of Sanders’ earnings came from his $174,000 salary as a U.S. senator, as well as Social Security benefits.

The returns, filed jointly with his wife, Jane, were just as “boring” and straightforward as Sanders repeatedly said they would be, particularly compared to those of Hillary Clinton, his multi-millionaire opponent for the nomination.

[guillaumeb]

12. Oops!!

Well, you were asked.

[padah513]

17. Just one year?

[JaneQPublic]

18. He only gave his 2-page summary, not his full tax return.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/04/sanders-evades-tax-question/

Has Sanders released his “full returns” in the past? No.

...

Jake Tapper, the show’s anchor, accurately stated that Sanders had released the 1040 two-page summary page of his 2014 tax returns, but not the full returns.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

29. Wrongo!

Here it is with schedules

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2804313-Bernie-Sanders-Just-Released-His-Tax-Returns.html

[honest.abe]

31. Minimum 5 years.

Until he provides that he is not a legitimate candidate.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

109. Ahem

The line for demanding several years of returns starts over there>>>>


This is the “he only released two pages” line.

[Kurt V.]

127. .

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

102. Since when do facts matter?!?!

[onit2day]

86. Sounds like "that's not his 'full' birth certificate". Not even a Millionaire

Ooooooh, I'm just so 'concerned'. Must be evil here. I need a microscope.

[JaneQPublic]

94. Take it up with factcheck.org

And BTW, your post count is pretty low to be launching "Concern Troll" accusations against someone who's been here since 2001.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

126. BOOOOOOM!!!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[DownriverDem]

75. Again I say

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party.

[trueblue2007]

113. bernie is NOT A DEMOCRAT!!! He is afraid of releasing his taxes and he has a #MeToo problem

[onit2day]

82. Do you even know what a concern troll is?

[stonecutter357]

96. yes !

[honest.abe]

3. I bet many of those are Republicans trying to mess with our primary.

Never forget Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos".

[fleur-de-lisa]

7. Yep. n/t

[R B Garr]

58. Always, and wasn't there foreign money last time?

Tad Devine.

[George II]

95. I hope his Treasurer monitors the contributions this time. Last time had...

....the most number of contributions and aggregate value of contributions flagged by the FEC.

The FEC sent more than a dozen letters (a total of 3,000 pages) containing about 100,000 flagged contributions. Many of those contributions were from foreign entities.

[R B Garr]

120. The unresolved and unaccounted for foreign contributions

deserve immediate answers. If I recall, he kept filing delays — maybe busy looking for the taxes...

[DownriverDem]

76. Good Point

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. Shut him down.

[TexasTowelie]

4. I won't be giving Bernie a dime. nt

[Autumn]

5. I will, I'll even kick in a bit extra.

[TexasTowelie]

47. I see that you have money to part with. nt

[Autumn]

49. For a good cause? Hell yea I do. nt

[TexasTowelie]

51. I think that a lot of other candidates are going to raise significant amounts of money

based upon Bernie's announcement. The only question is how I will allocate my democratic socialist contributions.

[onit2day]

91. So many good candidates. I love it. Repubs don't have one.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

103. Me too!! Already pledged $27.

[onit2day]

89. Yes, me too as will 7 members of my family.

[George II]

110. I'll be making my choice after the first one or two debates. Listening to them all recently....

...I'm zeroing in on three right now - Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, and Cory Booker, with a few "secondary" choices. I also have at least three toss-outs.

Only time will tell.

BTW, I already received two emails from Sanders today, both asking for donations. The first mentioned "Democrat" only once, the second not at all.

[Joe941]

6. I donated.

[ZeroSomeBrains]

79. Same here n/t

[CrossingTheRubicon]

8. What is he promising in return for the regular installments of $27?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

14. He wants to protect credit card company profits and pharmaceutical company profits.

Oh sorry, you confused me. He wants to fight for Single Payer Insurance and fair pricing for prescription drugs.

[disillusioned73]

19. I see what you did.. ;)

[Autumn]

15. Same thing other candidates are promising. Some more, some less.

He's not promising us dinner and a movie, he's running for president and that costs money.

[onit2day]

93. They are all Bernies now but 5yrs ago not one Sen would cosponsor Med 4 all bill

[Garrett78]

24. An early exit from contention.

After he fails to do as well in Iowa and New Hampshire as he did in 2016, where does he go from there? It's not like Nevada and South Carolina are going to save him. I don't see him lasting until Super Tuesday unless his sole purpose is to sew division and hold rallies.

[jmowreader]

68. He'll probably do the same thing as last time

He was mathematically eliminated from contention very early in the process, but stayed in it all the way to the convention.

[Garrett78]

72. I think he'll have a much tougher time justifying that. Because...

...he won't be in a 1-on-1 race, and he won't be running against someone who millions had been conditioned to hate.

2nd in Iowa and 1st in New Hampshire propelled him forward. I don't think he'll place as high in those states in 2020.

[still_one]

10. I made my first donation this morning to..........

Kamala Harris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kelly1mm]

114. Her support for asset forfiture as CA AG and calling for Sen. Franken to resign shows she lacks

judgement to be President. Bernie fails that (later) test as well …….

[still_one]

117. I'll tell you what, you choose your candidate, and I will choose mine to support. Deal?

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I am from California, and that AG story is a distortion. It had to do with freezing assets of those charged.
It was not unlike those who tried to paint Hillary as a defender of a pedofile(sic), ignoring the fact that she tried to be released from that case, but the judge wouldn't let her, and as an attorney that was her job to defend that client to the best of her ability


As for Franken, regardless of the pressure, in the end it was his choice to resign. and to make it clear I was not happy at all what the Democrats did to Al, and I think he got railroaded, but he could have fought it


To be honest I haven't decided yet who I am going to vote for, but I donated to my Senator today on the basis that when in NH today she made it clear she was a DEMOCRAT, not a Democratic Socialist or independent

I also am not a single issue voter, a lot of things go into my decision who I will eventually support

[allgood33]

11. He is in for the spoil again. I just hope the primary will take care of him once and for all.

He has done enough harm to the Democratic party.

[guillaumeb]

13. Sanders has played a major role in pushing the dialogue

in a very progressive way. And he is not alone in this, but he does receive a lot of media attention.

[MrGrieves]

52. Has he? I really don't think so.

On some issues sure on others not so much.

When he gets progressive in terms of guns talk to me. Old out of touch white guy that promises pie in the sky when he has absolutely no avenue to deliver on his grandiose pitches. That’s easy to do.

[honest.abe]

20. The fortunate thing is that NH is early which will be a good test of Bernie's viability.

I suspect he will not do well and certainly nowhere near what he did in 2016 where he blew away Hillary and captured 60% of the vote.

Then in SC I am sure he will do very poorly given the large percent of AA voters. Harris will likely do very well there. Then Nevada which will likely also go big for Harris.

If he lasts until Super Tuesday, he will then get trounced by a Harris who will be on a roll plus the fact her home state CA is now a Super Tues state.

Hopefully at that point he will come to his senses and drop out.

[WeekiWater]

16. Considering the difference in name recognition.

I would say this looks like a poor start for Sanders.

"The California Democrat announced Tuesday that she had raised $1.5 million from roughly 38,000 donors in the first 24 hours after she made her 2020 plans official."

No go look at name recognition differences, email database differences, and the fact that one of them has been running for President for years while the other just announced. I don't think this looks good for Sanders.

[dogman]

21. When the best is just not good enough.

Okay.

[WeekiWater]

22. What or who is the best? NT

[dogman]

26. 42,000 in 4 hours 32,000 in 24 hours

Which is best?

[WeekiWater]

28. Considering all metrics I would say Harris.

That is why I mentioned the scope. It's a great sign for Harris.

[dogman]

30. Guess I just don't get the new math.

In my day the answer was clear.

[WeekiWater]

32. I don't see how it is new math or what is so difficult to "get".

I get your position. Limit the metrics as much as possible in something that should be viewed in the big picture.

[dogman]

35. 42,000 in 4 hours is greater than 32,000 in 24 hours.

If he doesn't get another donor today it is still greater than.

[QC]

33. Must be summa that there Common Core math.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

36. I blame charter schools.

[QC]

40. Careful...at least one of our wonderfully enlightened progressive candidates

thinks corporate charter schools are the bee's knees.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

34. How about the metric of home state population?

Harris had a MUCH larger constituent base to pull from in CA than Sanders in VT.

For the record, I don't know the demographics of either of their recent donations, just another metric that seems relevant to consider.

[WeekiWater]

37. How long has Sanders been running nationally.

How long has Harris been running nationally. That was a part of my point.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

39. If the demographic distribution of their donors is the same, I agree with you.

But it is also very likely that the majority of her support came from CA. I don't know that, again, for the record. But statistically, if a certain percentage of a candidates constituents donate to them, that would mean the bulk of Harris is from CA.

[dogman]

38. Seems reasonable.

You'll just have to write a longer equation.

[Grokenstein]

80. That's like saying the person with the high-rated TV show makes the better president

Some puppets realize they're being manipulated.
Others don't.

[dogman]

121. No, it's nothing like that.

Yeah sure, over 140,000 people willing to put their money where their mouths are, are being manipulated.

[ismnotwasm]

23. This is the most mature post I've seen in a long time.

Successful adulting for sure.

[colsohlibgal]

25. Love Bernie But....

Like Biden (and Joe has other troubling issues) he is just too old for this. If Biden won a 2nd term he’d be hitting his mid 80s.

Kamala Harris is not, she is in a real sweet spot, in her young prime and female. All these presidents in our history, all men so maybe we’re overdue for a change? That said my favorite male candidate, should he run, is Beto. Beto would seem to have some 21st century JFK/RFK in him.

[Aristus]

27. The Trumpsters will be happy to hear that.

Bernie is Trump's greatest hope for re-election...

[Yosemito]

41. He better win

Imagine all this hype about fundraising and crowds again. Just to lose....again?

[Apollyonus]

42. He had the list of donors from 2016 n/t

[Hassin Bin Sober]

44. So what? Did he drive to their homes and demand money?

[Arazi]

77. This is a bullshit talking point. HRC kept her donor list from her 1st run too

[Apollyonus]

78. But HRC is not running. nt

[Arazi]

81. Why is it important that Bernie kept his donor list from his 1st run?

Pretty much any candidate for any office keeps their donor list if they plan to run again. Those who aren't going to run again either loan it out, sell it or donate it.

This talking point keeps coming up and its bullshit when aimed at any candidate imo. For some reason the fact that Bernie kept his list engenders a lot of vitriol when Hillary doing the same thing never comes up as a problem

[Apollyonus]

85. My point is

Bernie raising a lot of money in 4 hours as opposed to Kamala Harris is no big deal because Bernie already had a list and Kamala has to build it.

[Arazi]

90. She's a US Senator. She already has one of the largest donor lists from that alone

But that's a very good point for sure. Nothing beats the significance and reach of a Presidential run - especially one that was funded by a vast army of small donors

[VOX]

43. What is the source cited in the OP? Link, please?

It reads like a Bernie campaign email. All rah-rah and no sources given.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

45. Oops. Forgot to add it. Now it's there

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-sanders-bests-kamala-harris-first-day-donor-total-in-four-hours

[TeamPooka]

46. Good. Every dollar given to Bernie now is one less dollar for Jill Stein in the general.

[Apollyonus]

87. lulz nt

[NYC Liberal]

48. Great. I'll only be supporting a Democrat for the Democratic Party's nomination.

[MrGrieves]

50. I have a hardcore bernie supporting friend who says NOT this time around.

People are waking up to this sham artist.

[Apollyonus]

88. You Sir have smart friends!!

[RandySF]

53. I hope college kids do not donate their entire savings this time

[Eliot Rosewater]

118. sanctions? i thought they said sandwiches all 3 times and I wasnt hungry

[AkFemDem]

54. Russian donors with deep pockets.

[Adrahil]

55. Throwing good money after bad... NT

[awesomerwb1]

56. My youngest nephew was a massive Bernie "fan" in 2016

Just texted me he'll only vote for him if he's the nominee as a last resort.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

57. I think we will need a newer version of "I like Bernie but..."

“My _____ was a Bernie supporter but...”

[awesomerwb1]

65. Ok, go ahead and set it up.

Maybe it could replace the "Bernie over Country" posters some probably have in their rooms. *cough* *cough*

Touchy touchy.

[Lithos]

67. My preferred take

I liked Bernie, but that was so 2016...

[R B Garr]

59. Tad Devine. nt

[CrossingTheRubicon]

60. Sounds rather like obsessions on crowd size.

[R B Garr]

73. Exactly, and I appreciated Hillary's observation that Putin's

troll farm had to be assisted by some Americans by how they navigated the systems. Paul Manafort is going to prison (used to work with Tad Devine on foreign campaigns).

[Eliot Rosewater]

119. Today on a progressive show chat there were HUNDREDS of BASHING democrats posts

while supporting someone.

[dogman]

124. Sounds like they're already at work here.

The discord is really loud. What will you do when Bernie is our nominee?

[Ninsianna]

62. He has a history of not being picky about where he gets his money.

Remember this?


https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-campaign-illegal-contribution-828044

Also, I thought name recognition was a thing? I'm unimpressed that a guy who hoarded his list only managed so little.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

64. Boy you sure busted him.

You rooted out those young Australian labor party members who received a stipend from the labor party to learn about American elections.

"During the course of the campaign thousands and thousands of young people from every state and many other countries volunteered. Among them were seven Australian young people who were receiving a modest stipend and airfare from the Australian Labor Party so they could learn about American politics," the campaign said in a statement. "The folks on the campaign managing volunteers did not believe the stipend disqualified them from being volunteers."

[Ninsianna]

125. Boy. He broke campaign finance laws, and they sure don't apply

To shouty old white dudes, just like Trump says!

Boy ain't it grand to.have 600+ pages of FEC violation when you're an incompetent failed white man who has never done anything.in his life?

Gotta love Trumpian arguments, eh?

[madville]

63. Bernie is going to get a decent post announcement bump

In the polls, should lock him and Joe in as the solid frontrunners, polling around 25-30% each.

[renate]

66. I voted for Bernie in the primaries; his picture was my avatar; I still admire him immensely

I think his commitment to progressive values is genuine and provably lifelong.

However, Trump totally gave the game away when he wished him well. I wouldn't be surprised if a large proportion of those donations come, somehow, from Russia. It truly pains me to say that, because my admiration for him is genuine and I know that a lot of others' admiration is genuine. I would LOVE it if he had a cabinet position--Secretary of Labor, maybe? But I wish he weren't running.

[LuvLoogie]

69. So, who's primary?

[LW1977]

70. Is it gonna get az ugly here as it was in 2016?

Hopefully all of the Jack-off Radicals stay away from here.

[UniteTheLeft]

71. United we Win ....Divided..well.... you know how that go's already.

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Can any of you tell me you'll let go of all this fruitless bickering, and counterproductive jealousy this time no matter who wins the DNC 2020 primary ? Did you last time ? Because if you don't then you may as well be voting republican.

Age is not a reason not to vote for someone, gender is not a reason not to vote for someone, race is not a reason not to vote for someone. If we want to lose yet another election then the negativity I see in this post is exactly the losing formula. I understand many of you are worried, and you're right to be worried,but this kind of division can not be afforded this time at all. It's exactly what the Russian/trump trolls are licking their chops to cultivate. Stating the obvious...DU like any other site on the internet is not invulnerable to schill accounts trying to spread discontent and ill will among us.Their schill army sits back and laughs at stuff like this while the comment sections (like this one) do the work for them, and I have the succinct idea that is not what most people here want.

Personally I am not encouraged by the large field of candidates, not that I think any one candidate should not run, but because we have to take more time to narrow the field and unify behind one. You have to consider the fact that republican voters are as decided now as they were in 2016 who they are going to vote for... again... that i guarantee you. That being said I am far less encouraged by, and frustrated by democrat, progressive, and independent voters (whom all share more values with each other than they do these fascists now ruining our nation) still carrying on with all this name calling, finger pointing, generally childish behavior, and feuding with each other.

If as adults we can not all come together and find a consensus on this matter then WE WILL LOSE YET ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN 2020. These attitudes of defeatism, and resentment must be summarily dealt with by first flushing it down the toilet.. where it belongs.

The great majority of Republican/Trump voters in 2016 had no doubt who their vote was for... and look what that got them. We must be as decided as they were last time or we will lose again.

The candidates themselves also have the responsibility to deal with each other fairly if they all want OUR SIDE TO WIN and think that most them already are diplomatic enough to understand they are stronger together, and have a much better chance at winning an election if they know when to concede to each other and adopt each others strengths and combine them .. e.g. Think about it. .. regardless If It's Warren, Harris, Beto, Biden, or Bernie, as the nominee I have always thought the ultimate honor would be to pick one of the other candidates as their VP choice. IDK ...Just Imagine something amazing like Beto/Warren, or Sanders/Beto, Warren/Harris, Biden/Beto, Harris/Beto, frankly I'd take any of those over the nightmare we're all currently being forced to live through now...wouldn't you ?

[murielm99]

74. Sanders made all those nasty comments about

identity politics. Is he going to do that again?

[George II]

98. It's a matter of interpretation, but it looks like he did so in his interview this morning.

[murielm99]

105. Maybe he will mess with Vote Builder again,

and distract by suing the DNC. It is hard for old dogs to learn new tricks.

[Apollyonus]

92. Bernie is too divisive

and his track record of uniting behind the eventual nominee is not stellar.

[George II]

123. Seinfeld's J. Peterman had an expression for this.

[Bettie]

83. That is all about name recognition

He has it. I still don't think he'll end up with the nomination.

[PubliusEnigma]

84. At any time in that 4 hours, did Bernie join the Democratic Party???

[Go Vols]

97. Daily Kos Democratic Presidential Primary Straw Poll: February 19

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/19/1835869/-Daily-Kos-Democratic-Presidential-Primary-Straw-Poll-February-19

[Andy823]

106. Wow an online poll

[David__77]

112. Great sign!!!

Those who might cheer a low showing for Sanders might say “it’s just an online poll!” Lol

[Trumpocalypse]

99. Just proves PT Barnum was right

When he said you can fool some of the people all of the time.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

108. PT Barnum also said "people will mangle quotes and misattribute them some of the time"

[Trumpocalypse]

111. Actually he didn't nt

But it was Lincoln who said “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

What PT Barnum said is, "There's a sucker born every minute".

Which quote is most relevant about Democrats supporting Sanders, I'll let the reader decide.

[Kurt V.]

128. i say some of the time sometimes. and you can quote me on that.

[nolabear]

100. So we're putting them against one another now.

Swell.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

101. No surprise there!!

[d_b]

104. Have another $100, bud

[wryter2000]

107. Not again

Please, no more.

[Adrahil]

122. get ready....

for four more years....

[obamanut2012]

115. So?

[pnwmom]

116. That's because the anti-Bernie vote is divided among lots of Democrats, only one of whom

is as well known as Bernie -- and Biden hasn't announced yet.