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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThink about this. A serving officer in the US military was plotting mass murder of political figures
...as well as God knows who else. Not a goddam peep from our "President", or the GOP establishment. I know that we've descended into one new low after another these past few years...but doesn't this development seem, well, peculiarly ominous? Given how rigorously the military reviews its personnel...nobody saw this coming? And are there others like him, a sort of unofficial cadre of sleeper cells in the military and/or law enforcement, just waiting to make their move? Suppose this lunatic had murdered a significant proportion of his targets--a political massacre, by a fucking military officer. The impact on our democracy would have made 9/11 look like a bump in the road. Is anybody actually trying to, you know, stop this? Or does Trump, at the very least, think that planning to kill "lib'rul" political and military figures a cool idea? The fact is, we cannot trust this "administration" to protect its adversaries. In its way, I think this is as dangerous a step towards the abyss as anything that's happened in the Trump Era...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)How can you say that? Quite obviously, someone DID see it coming, since "it" didn't happen, and he was caught before he had an opportunity to strike.
Why do you suppose they started looking at this guy, and then obtained the relevant warrants needed to collect all of that information about him?
What makes you believe it was not others in the military who first suggested there was something not right about this guy?
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...someone indeed saw it coming, and indeed stopped him. I was engaging in hyperbole, and for that I apologize. I still think this is an ominous sign, and wonder to what extent Trump's all-but-open fascism is influencing others like this guy...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)And whether they learn from the mistakes of the ones who get caught.
I think thats part of the reason that prosecutors dont make these media friendly events.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Itll be very interesting to see what motivated him. Very interesting indeed!
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)Not the Department of Defense.
That said, if hed been an officer in the US Army. If hes convicted they can hang him.
Also your post reminds me of the 2009 Ft Hood shooting. Which wasnt labeled as a terrorist attack. Despite him yelling allahu akbar
rwsanders
(2,596 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)So that seems to be still working.
rwsanders
(2,596 posts)and sexual harassment at the academy.
That said, there is a prevailing culture of right wing nuttery in the USCG. For some reason the rank and file seem to believe that the republicans are more "military friendly"; when in actuality they are more friendly to military contractors, who hire retired technical folks and brass.
But it is tragically comical to hear the rank and file scream about the evils of socialism, when ever dollar and benefit they have is from socialism and they live in the most socialist segment of american society: while not complete they are to some extent guaranteed employment which comes with socialized medicine, housing allowance (based on local cost of living) or free housing, food allowance, uniform allowance (for enlisted), subsidized education, subsidized childcare (when available), moving expenses, etc., etc.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Most people dont understand that government benefits are paid by taxpayer money and therefore miss the Socialist connection of our taxes paying for everything. Not too many get the connection that government money is money that we all pay taxes on. That virtually every cent spent by government is money that comes from us paying taxes.
This is a sad fact.
radius777
(3,635 posts)so there's no reason Trump would criticize him... "very fine people" indeed.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)we had a discussion about what is acceptable for entertainment networks to blast all over the airwaves 24/7.