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bmpbmp

(310 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:54 PM Feb 2019

If the argument is that a sitting President can't be indicted because his duties are too demanding..

let trump demonstrate and defend his schedule satisfies the argument.

Let's go over his executive time, excessive golfing trips. No oval office sitter has ever done less day-to-day. Make him prove he doesn't have the time to defend himself.

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If the argument is that a sitting President can't be indicted because his duties are too demanding.. (Original Post) bmpbmp Feb 2019 OP
I logged in to rec. this! Mme. Defarge Feb 2019 #1
lol, thanks! bmpbmp Feb 2019 #2
Trump: 'I would rarely leave the White House' keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #3
Agreed take him to court lancelyons Feb 2019 #4
Excellent question. Wish we had some attack dogs in the M$M to press the issue. ffr Feb 2019 #5
I'm beyond the point of should he be indicted or not and I'm more wondering why TalenaGor Feb 2019 #6
The reason is he is the Commander in Chief lunatica Feb 2019 #12
not coup ... very uncoup (see what I did there?) TalenaGor Feb 2019 #13
I'm with you there lunatica Feb 2019 #18
google "Smedley Butler" for your answer Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #14
oh that was very interesting story I never knew... TalenaGor Feb 2019 #15
Normally the remedy would lie with Congress. Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #16
I just have a hard time understanding that we are truly that vulnerable TalenaGor Feb 2019 #19
Bookmarked Mira Feb 2019 #7
Why is there a Vice President? moondust Feb 2019 #8
K&R 2naSalit Feb 2019 #9
... catbyte Feb 2019 #10
Well if he's too busy then why break the law 100% of the time? lunatica Feb 2019 #11
That's a terrific idea. Dave Starsky Feb 2019 #17

keithbvadu2

(36,722 posts)
3. Trump: 'I would rarely leave the White House'
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:36 AM
Feb 2019

Trump: 'I would rarely leave the White House'

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/245884-trump-i-would-rarely-leave-the-white-house

“I would rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done,” Trump, 69, tells ITK. "I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off.”

ffr

(22,665 posts)
5. Excellent question. Wish we had some attack dogs in the M$M to press the issue.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:08 AM
Feb 2019

I'd pay to see that.

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
6. I'm beyond the point of should he be indicted or not and I'm more wondering why
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:17 AM
Feb 2019

The Military and the FBI aren't going there and grabbing his ass up right now I have to believe that these institutions would protect America above all else.....what do you do if you have a full-on spy as president? you have to take aggressive action to save the country....

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. The reason is he is the Commander in Chief
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:42 AM
Feb 2019

He is their boss. Any attempt on their part to stop him would be a coup attempt to take power away from him and take it as their own.

In who’s name would they do it? He is the only person who can order them to do anything. Who would they answer to other than some general,who in turn must answer to the President. It’s really a slippery slope for them. They are directed by the President, not by Congress or the Justice Department. They would be breaking the law which goes against their oath of service. They would be tried for treason in a Court Martial and found guilty of treason.

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
13. not coup ... very uncoup (see what I did there?)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:31 AM
Feb 2019

Ivwas watching something the other day....maybe it's was McCabe on colbert....not sure....but hearing the words '...is a Russian spy...' was deeply unsettling..

I'm just not understanding how voting somebody out is the only way to deal with a Russian spy in our highest office....

We are in deep shit....

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. I'm with you there
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:18 PM
Feb 2019

This is unprecedented in our history. It’s also a Constitutional crisis we have to face as a nation. I think it’s up to us, the people, to force the issue. The Republican Party is corrupt which is what is holding up impeachment possibilities.

We have our work cut out for us. Don’t believe that because nothing has happened in the courts yet that it’s over. This has gone way past Nixon’s crimes. Nixon was never a traitor to his country.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
14. google "Smedley Butler" for your answer
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:21 PM
Feb 2019

In the last century, the military plotted to remove Roosevelt. A Marine General, Smedley Butler, stopped the coup.

Do you really want the military to take an unconstitutional move like this?

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
15. oh that was very interesting story I never knew...
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:11 PM
Feb 2019

However FDR was legitimately elected and the coup attempt was from within America & the Republican party.....

But what I feel like right now is that an enemy country, Russia, has installed a spy in our highest office- that was the coup,.....I see this is a completely different situation but then again I'm no expert lol

I guess what I want to know is, what is the process for undoing a coup? Because that's what I feel like needs to be done it doesn't feel like 'oh let's just vote him out' while he has access to everything for 4 years....

How do we protect America from something like that....?


Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
16. Normally the remedy would lie with Congress.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:30 PM
Feb 2019

The founding fathers assumed that Congress would check a rogue president through impeachment, although there isn't specifically any protection against an illegitimate election or coup.

The Republican majority leader has such overwhelming power and has been a part of the alleged coup. The founding fathers didn't anticipate this situation.

moondust

(19,966 posts)
8. Why is there a Vice President?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:43 AM
Feb 2019

If not to take over in case the President is incapacitated, impeached, or indicted/convicted/sentenced to jail?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
11. Well if he's too busy then why break the law 100% of the time?
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:30 AM
Feb 2019

It’s not like presidenting is an either/or proposition. Other than Nixon they all pretty much ran the country, though there are a few exceptions regarding deep seated racism and misogyny.

But I think this is the first time a Russian ran the country.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
17. That's a terrific idea.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:53 PM
Feb 2019

Any President who doesn't have time to be indicted should be able to account for every hour of his time--and it shouldn't include golf trips or watching Fox News.

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