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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:17 AM Feb 2019

Cops get called on gun-toting, screaming Nazi disturbing customers. Cops say that's free speech.

https://www.theroot.com/man-goes-on-white-supremacist-rant-flashes-gun-police-1832795340

An Alabama man went all Alabama in an Alabama coffee shop by going on a racist rant that left the business’ white customers disturbed and reminded the black customers that they were actually in Alabama.

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Customers called police at Mama Mocha’s on Gay Street after the man — who hasn’t been identified by police — walked in with a young woman, ordered a coffee, sat down by himself on a couch for a while and proceeded to stand in a chair in the middle of the cafe to shout Nazi and white nationalist rhetoric.

“He was giving Heil Hitler arm motions pretty aggressively,” said Sarah Barnett-Gill, the owner of the coffee shop, known for its minority and LGBT-inclusive atmosphere. “He loudly started talking about Nazi rhetoric and White Lives Matter and giving a racist monologue.”

The cafe’s manager, Richard Trammell, said he was outside on the phone when the incident started, but he rushed back inside when he saw the man wave the Nazi salute.

“As he was walking out, I told him not to come back, and he showed me his gun,” Trammell said. “I have a Black Lives Matter pin on and being a black man, I wasn’t really shook. I wasn’t really scared. But it was a very charged situation.”

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However, instead of fearing for their lives, the cops decided to go easy on the gun-toting coffee Nazi.

Police told the Plainsman in a statement that the man was legally in possession of his weapon, adding: “The incident did not occur in the presence of APD Officers; as such, any criminal charges would have to be filed by a complainant.”

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According to AL.com, Barnett-Gill said the police explained that Hay was “within his right to free speech.”
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Cops get called on gun-toting, screaming Nazi disturbing customers. Cops say that's free speech. (Original Post) DetlefK Feb 2019 OP
Yeah, nazis are all about 'free speech'. Mc Mike Feb 2019 #1
Yeah they are all about free speech. Their own. marble falls Feb 2019 #2
Stop being so intolerant of their intolerance. It hurts their delicate feelings. Mc Mike Feb 2019 #3
I'm not so much intolerant of the intolerant as I am tolerant of the tolerant. marble falls Feb 2019 #5
...and nobody else's. backscatter712 Feb 2019 #17
The cops may have also been Nazis. watoos Feb 2019 #4
At the risk of starting a kerfluffle, I'd say even money. marble falls Feb 2019 #7
May have been is too diplomatic Tien1985 Feb 2019 #12
That or an affiliate and sympathetic org...nt 2naSalit Feb 2019 #13
Pretty safe bet. backscatter712 Feb 2019 #15
There is a positive in this story ornotna Feb 2019 #6
And that's only half a joke. marble falls Feb 2019 #8
+1, omg ... isn't that a shame though !? uponit7771 Feb 2019 #16
"any criminal charges would have to be filed by a complainant" Quackers Feb 2019 #9
He flashed his gun at the manager so that would probably scare off the complainant Submariner Feb 2019 #11
Zachary Taylor Hay is his name. Quackers Feb 2019 #10
The cops were fucking useless. backscatter712 Feb 2019 #14
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2019 #18
K&R, But if this guy was a black or brown person sitting near a pool then 234 cars would've shown up uponit7771 Feb 2019 #19
He should have been arrested rockfordfile Feb 2019 #20
Stop being intolerant of my intolerance! Initech Feb 2019 #21

Tien1985

(920 posts)
12. May have been is too diplomatic
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:25 AM
Feb 2019

“If you’ve got a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis." —Where ever that old chestnut came from.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
9. "any criminal charges would have to be filed by a complainant"
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:40 AM
Feb 2019

Why wasn’t anyone willing to be the complainant?

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
11. He flashed his gun at the manager so that would probably scare off the complainant
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:58 AM
Feb 2019

Living in a gun hamper state like Alabama where a first grade drop-out, who cannot read or write, can carry a gun on the streets and hunt me down would give me pause about turning that turnip into the cops.


backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
14. The cops were fucking useless.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:15 AM
Feb 2019

That nazi POS displayed his gun to the manager when he told him to get out.

That's felony menacing. Fucker should have been jailed for that right there.

Some of those who burn crosses are the same that work forces.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
19. K&R, But if this guy was a black or brown person sitting near a pool then 234 cars would've shown up
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:20 AM
Feb 2019

... and somebody would've been "talked to" at the least.

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