More on the prostitution ring that has implicated New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft

[fleur-de-lisa]

https://www.axios.com/florida-sex-ring-robert-kraft-5c6d07f1-1a80-4b2e-a729-fdc2682a8119.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

What we learned about the prostitution ring that has implicated New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft:

• Human traffickers lured women to massage parlors where they were intimidated into prostitution

• An investigation culminated in charges against dozens who solicited the parlors, including Kraft

• Warrants have been issued for 173 people

• So far, nearly 50 of the 165 accused of paying for sex acts have been arrested

[Wounded Bear]

1. Just heard on MSNBC...

that there is a connection to a human trafficking ring abducting and importing Chinese girls for sex trafficking.

[cbdo2007]

3. Yep, wondering if there is an under age aspect here

[gldstwmn]

8. One of the articles I read mentioned underage girls. It wasn't

clear if Kraft was serviced by someone underage.

[fleur-de-lisa]

2. I think we found the real "PizzaGate."

[thucythucy]

4. Yes, and the real story about

"girls being smuggled across the border tied and gagged with duct tape."

[malaise]

5. Yes indeed

These scumbags are hypocrites on steroids

[Initech]

15. I would love it if he goes down for this.

But he's of the protected billionaire class, and we have conservatives in power so he'll probably get nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

[3Hotdogs]

24. He ain't going down anywhere. He gets a fine and that's all.

On the other hand, is there a Mrs. Kraft who might not be too happy? Or maybe she was happy because he wasn't buggering her and she didn't know why.

[maryellen99]

26. She died in 2011 nt

[3Hotdogs]

30. So the only real possibility is if the other owners make him sell.

Not likely since they probably were there last weeek for a massage

[Funtatlaguy]

16. Yep, everything they accused Hillary of has been projection

Of things this extended crime family has done itself.
They are despicable.

[mr_lebowski]

6. Arrest the traffickers, not the Johns ... unless they had reason to believe trafficking was involved

To me, prostitution being illegal is ridiculous.

I think we should bring it all above ground, have people get licensed, registered, paying taxes on proceeds, etc.

Then, the people that try to circumvent the proper channels ... can be singled out and prosecuted to the fullest extent.

I doubt they discover much trafficking going on in states where prostitution is legal and regulated. ESPECIALLY if the regulators have the ability to protect/help the women who are being forced to register as sex workers via illegal coercion. That's a very important component IMHO.

Just MHO.

[TexasTowelie]

11. You forgot to include regular, frequent testing for STDs

and funding for counseling and transitioning to a different occupation.

[Johnny2X2X]

13. Prostitution has very clear victims

The girls are the victims.

And you would be wrong about places with legalized prostitution not having so much trafficking, those states have huge problems too because sex slaves are more profitable.

In some European countries the issue is effectively policed by treating all of the women exactly like what they are, victims. The entire effort that stops it is prosecuting the men as sex offenders.

When you're talking about willing prostitutes, they do exist, but you're talking about the exception to the norm. Even the girls in the brothels in Nevada are being exploited.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. Nope. Not clear.

Sex workers are not automatically victims. To claim so is to deny adult competent women AND men choice of employment.

How are the women (not "girls" ) in Nevada being exploited?

It is disrespectful of women to call them girls. The women in brothels in Nevada are of age and are women, not "girls".

Isn't it a bit of an antiquated attitude to write as you do as if all sex workers are women?

[hueymahl]

20. Very well put

im A little surprised so many on here make knee-jerk reactions like this.

[eggplant]

27. Thank you.

Sex workers are adults. Minors are not workers, they are victims.
Sex workers come in all shapes, sizes, and genders. Sex workers are not exclusively women for men.
Sex workers are not all prostitutes. Strip club dancers are sex workers. Sex therapists are sex workers. Porn stars are sex workers.

[HopeAgain]

22. Its illegal, johns create the demand

No, johns, no trafficking. They took their chances and lost.

[loyalsister]

25. The assumption of entraprenuership in the context of sex work denies the obvious

Craftsmanship was overtaken by mass production and retail, which now operates as entities which guarantee the exploitative forces US capitalism that reduce personal agency of laborers in many areas of employment.
Why anyone would believe that legalized prostitution would not follow a similar path is beyond me.

[gratuitous]

14. Yeah, why shouldn't 15 year olds be able to turn tricks?

The fact of the matter is that it is illegal, right now, in most states. Robert Kraft is a big boy (I'm not buying any "youthful indiscrection" alibi, either), and has some highly competent lawyers on retainer who should be able tell him that whether or not he "believes" that trafficking is involved, what he's doing is illegal as all hell.

The traffickers are being arrested where they can be found. But the traffickers would turn to something more ethical like back alley cock fights if there weren't any high roller clients paying for the services they offer.

[eggplant]

28. 15 year olds cannot legally consent.

By definition, they are victims.

[mr_lebowski]

31. If he slept with 15 y.o. prostitute and had reason to believe she was 15, and/or a trafficking

victim, then this absolutely changes my argument and thoughts on the subject.

There was no talk of 15 year olds when I posted

[JuJuYoshida]

29. this

[gldstwmn]

7. Another article is saying 200 charged now.

I'm thinking there might be some other big fish in this pond since it's Palm Beach.

[Blue Owl]

9. Robert isn't the Krafty fellow you may have thought he was...

n/t

[getagrip_already]

12. I see what you did there.......

[Funtatlaguy]

17. Gives Kraft Miracle Whip a new tangy twist.

https://www.google.com/search?q=kraft+miracle+whip&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=wUompw5fLPrESM:

[GoCubsGo]

10. I have a hunch that Randi Rhodes' show is going to have more on this today.

She's right near there in West Palm Beach. She might know more than what's being reported, being so close by to it.

[LisaM]

19. Who is running these rings?

There was a high profile case in the Seattle area involving a local sports guy, but the story languished and I never heard who the ringleaders were, nor any details of how it worked.

[sarcasmo]

21. Remember when the Trump Foundation received massage parlor, escort services trademarks from China.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/china-donald-trump-branded-without-us-congress-permission-trademarks-spas-escort-services-hotels-and-a7619136.html

[bdamomma]

23. Randi is taking about this now

Epstein and Acosta are scumbags too.

Human trafficking

You wonder what happened to all those young girls who were snatched away from their mothers at the Southern border.


https://randirhodes.com/live/