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RandySF

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Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:19 AM Feb 2019

Viral Feinstein video was edited.





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Emily Nussbaum Retweeted Chubi Nwagbara
This tweet is correct. I didn’t actually share the viral Feinstein video, but I did respond to it, and watching the entire thing, I have a different response. It’s a much more complicated, nuanced back-and-forth. Not perfect, but not worthy of online outrage.
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Viral Feinstein video was edited. (Original Post) RandySF Feb 2019 OP
KnR Hekate Feb 2019 #1
This has the same feel as a James O'Keefe product. n/t Eyeball_Kid Feb 2019 #2
Any idea who posted the edited video? N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #3
Waleed Shahid is all over it... SidDithers Feb 2019 #6
Who uses children to try to score political points? lapucelle Feb 2019 #7
Juustice Democrats... Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #37
Nobody is clean in this regard. aikoaiko Feb 2019 #47
Wth were they thinking? what's their stupid end game? Cha Feb 2019 #9
Destroy Democrats...they are funded by Republicans and Hadid has written articles and books Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #40
Well that was STUPID. Cha Feb 2019 #62
"justice democrats".. Cha Feb 2019 #8
Have you seen this - DURHAM D Feb 2019 #13
lol@ WTF.. This isn't thug life.. Cha Feb 2019 #16
I knew you would enjoy it. DURHAM D Feb 2019 #18
It's unreal! Exactly who in the hell Cha Feb 2019 #20
Looks like a case of Early Onset Hubris betsuni Feb 2019 #24
lol Cha Feb 2019 #27
Fame is going to the congresswoman's head, methinks mcar Feb 2019 #44
"thug life"? Thats some nice racism by "Steph" aikoaiko Feb 2019 #48
"thug life"? Thats some nice racism by "Steph" aikoaiko Feb 2019 #67
Ha! betsuni Feb 2019 #23
It is really this simple. There is no chance to pass such a bill. Thus it's sole effect is to Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #39
"We're in charge." Codeine Feb 2019 #49
"Who's in the cheap seats?" Cha Feb 2019 #65
This needs to be exposed and investigated. R B Garr Feb 2019 #4
All I needed to hear was Cenk Uygur is involved with Justice Democrats pazzyanne Feb 2019 #19
K & R... For the truth! revmclaren Feb 2019 #5
It's Justice Dems who are trying their hand at o'keefing Feinstein. KitSileya Feb 2019 #10
BS & AOC should say something about Cha Feb 2019 #14
so is the NYT story correct? Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #11
Not if based on a selectively edited video. RandySF Feb 2019 #12
No DURHAM D Feb 2019 #15
AOC is in charge!! Scurrilous Feb 2019 #17
In charge of what? Cha Feb 2019 #21
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #25
It's only 13 and a half minutes n/t markpkessinger Feb 2019 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #30
I watched the unedited video True Blue American Feb 2019 #32
the lesson: We are so vulnerable to attack by shiny objects and ratfu%ckery Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #28
Defend the video Ocasio Cortez and her crew put together all you want.... quickesst Feb 2019 #29
I had never seen Empire True Blue American Feb 2019 #33
Senate Passes Feinstein Bill Completing 25-year Effort to Protect California Desert Cha Feb 2019 #31
The ratfucking has begun. Squinch Feb 2019 #34
K&R UCmeNdc Feb 2019 #35
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #36
K&RNT gademocrat7 Feb 2019 #38
K&R! This is important. MelissaB Feb 2019 #41
I suggested that was the case last night. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #42
Watched the unedited video wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #43
I am disgusted by the people who created this falsehood. yardwork Feb 2019 #45
I don't see what additional context could make those ugly words any better. m-lekktor Feb 2019 #46
Like you, I do not see see ugly words. I see propaganda. lapucelle Feb 2019 #50
Shorter videos go viral wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #56
That's not life...that's propaganda. lapucelle Feb 2019 #57
The full video does not vindicate her wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #60
Of course it Does.. Cha Feb 2019 #66
It doesn't melman Feb 2019 #51
I agree with you that the video was edited misleadingly. lapucelle Feb 2019 #58
lol melman Feb 2019 #59
I look at it as she's not talking to the kids but rather the adults who set them up... VarryOn Feb 2019 #52
Of course. emulatorloo Feb 2019 #53
I couldn't help but wonder if the initial video was yet another effort to divide us... CBHagman Feb 2019 #54
Who Edited the Video? Horizens Feb 2019 #55
Yes it was heavily and deceptively edited Gothmog Feb 2019 #61
From Senator Feinstein Gothmog Feb 2019 #63
Mahalo, Goth, for Diane's take Cha Feb 2019 #64
+1 dalton99a Feb 2019 #68

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
6. Waleed Shahid is all over it...
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:32 AM
Feb 2019

Check out his twitter timeline.

Same guy who posted, and deleted this:





These are the "Justice Dems"

Sid

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
37. Juustice Democrats...
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:37 AM
Feb 2019

Waleed Shahid is a Justice Democrat spokesperson...everything he does is suspect. He has written extensively on how bad the Democratic Party is but not the GOP go figure. Could it be that the Justice so called Democrats take money from Republicans? Eye on the ball people...no Green Dream is possible without winning elections. And to send kids to protest at Feinstein's office like she is stopping this legislation is dishonest and typical of Justice (not) Democrats. I can't stand any of them.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
40. Destroy Democrats...they are funded by Republicans and Hadid has written articles and books
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:46 AM
Feb 2019

trashing Democrats in publications like the Nation which I no longer read. He is a spokesman for Justice Democrats.

DURHAM D

(32,604 posts)
18. I knew you would enjoy it.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:32 AM
Feb 2019

Thanks for bringing all those response over to DU.

A lot of people seem to be asking - Who does she think she is?

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
39. It is really this simple. There is no chance to pass such a bill. Thus it's sole effect is to
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:42 AM
Feb 2019

divide and conquer Democrats...the irony is if they succeed. They never get a bill as the consequences are electing Republicans...they give the Republicans a way to demonize our party and candidates. And a doctored video yet...scum. One should never trust anything Justice (not) Democrats (take money from the GOP) ever put out again.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
4. This needs to be exposed and investigated.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:26 AM
Feb 2019

No excuse for these underhanded attacks to create false narratives.

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
19. All I needed to hear was Cenk Uygur is involved with Justice Democrats
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:49 AM
Feb 2019

to form my opinion. Cenk Uygur is a rabble rouser and promotes some pretty questionable ideas IMO.

revmclaren

(2,497 posts)
5. K & R... For the truth!
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:28 AM
Feb 2019

Seems a lot of people are back to believe lies and to bash Democrats.



Keep calling them out and posting the truth DUers.

ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
10. It's Justice Dems who are trying their hand at o'keefing Feinstein.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:59 AM
Feb 2019

Think Senator Sanders and Rep. Ocasio-Cortez will disavow them for this hit job? Their campaigns are/were very tightly linked to the so-called Justice Dems.

I have no hope the people on DU who fell for the edited video will actually apologize for their behavior. Kudos to those who weren't so ideologically blinded that they saw the bad editing job rather than gleefully seizing on the affirmation of their own preconceptions about Feinstein, tho!

Cha

(296,780 posts)
14. BS & AOC should say something about
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:13 AM
Feb 2019

justice democrats editing this viral vid to make Senator Feinstein look bad, but I have no clue what hey will do.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Response to markpkessinger (Reply #26)

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
32. I watched the unedited video
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:29 AM
Feb 2019

The kids were excited. Feinstein repeated several times there was no money to pay for the bill.

She was polite,explained her position and in no way was she rude.

Thanks for the unedited version.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
28. the lesson: We are so vulnerable to attack by shiny objects and ratfu%ckery
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:40 AM
Feb 2019

Look how fast DiFi was smeared. Most people will believe the smear and never hear of the way it went down.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
29. Defend the video Ocasio Cortez and her crew put together all you want....
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:43 AM
Feb 2019

.... but the bottom line is it was a cheap underhanded thing to do. And while I'm at it, you would think that after the jussie Smollett debacle with everyone and their mother jumping in to defend him 5 minutes after it became public, it would have been a valuable lesson learned. Apparently, it turned out not to be. Whether attacking or defending, it seems there are those who remain eager to jump the gun in a mad dash to stick their foot in their mouth.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
33. I had never seen Empire
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:33 AM
Feb 2019

But last night flicking through umpteen stations I chanced upon Cleo TV. Watched an episode.

Worst part is that Jesse is a pretty good actor and decent singer.

Now he sits in jail. Really a shame just because he became greedy.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
42. I suggested that was the case last night.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:26 AM
Feb 2019

It felt as if we were being dropped in near the end of a more robust conversation - and it felt like a drop in visit when she had other events scheduled.

Both of those turned out to be true.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
43. Watched the unedited video
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:43 AM
Feb 2019

Feinstein was either being pointedly condescending or defending her appeasement of Repuke ecoterrorists throughout. Neither the full video or the edited video puts her in a good light.

yardwork

(61,536 posts)
45. I am disgusted by the people who created this falsehood.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 10:47 AM
Feb 2019

Manipulating children, a hit job on a long-time Democratic leader who has dedicated her life to progressive causes, maliciously edited video, this is on par with the worst right-wing smears on Planned Parenthood and Acorn. Swiftboating.

This does NOTHING to help the environment.

I've lost all respect for Alexandria Octavio-Cortez and the so-called Justice Democrats.

We are not going to allow this kind of bullshit to happen again in this election. No way.

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
50. Like you, I do not see see ugly words. I see propaganda.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:13 PM
Feb 2019

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I don't see what additional context could make those ugly words any better.

I don't see w̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶t̶e̶x̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶s̶e̶ ̶ ugly words a̶n̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶t̶t̶e̶r̶ .

I don't see ugly words.


Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias


Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively to encourage a particular synthesis or perception.


What kind of people use children in a doctored video to advance an agenda?

Have a donut.

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
57. That's not life...that's propaganda.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:12 PM
Feb 2019

Funny how some people seem to be OK with it.

Who uses children in a doctored video to advance an agenda>

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
60. The full video does not vindicate her
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:07 PM
Feb 2019

At least not in the way you like. The only positive in the unedited video was Feinstein offering the girl an internship. Otherwise, she was condescending and dismissive throughout.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
51. It doesn't
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:18 PM
Feb 2019

It's just a convenient angle to pretend it was edited misleadingly or something.

Guaranteed if the full video was the only one posted they'd find a reason to say that wasn't legit.

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
58. I agree with you that the video was edited misleadingly.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:42 PM
Feb 2019
It's just a convenient angle to pretend it was edited misleadingly or something.

It 's̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶v̶e̶n̶i̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶g̶l̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶t̶e̶n̶d̶ ̶i̶t̶ was edited misleadingly o̶r̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶.

It was edited misleadingly.


What kind of people doctor a video of children to advance an agenda?

Have a donut.



 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
52. I look at it as she's not talking to the kids but rather the adults who set them up...
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:22 PM
Feb 2019

to go create the scene. The Senator knew what was happening and was pissed, and it shows.

Shes one of the great senators we have and look how they treat her.

CBHagman

(16,980 posts)
54. I couldn't help but wonder if the initial video was yet another effort to divide us...
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:32 PM
Feb 2019

...especially when I saw ageist rhetoric attached to some of the comments. People who actually want to get things done know they have to have a path to success, not just create disruption.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
55. Who Edited the Video?
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:58 PM
Feb 2019

Does anyone know for sure who edited the video. I want to write about this on other venues need to have my facts right.

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