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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:26 PM Feb 2019

800 pages sentencing memo for Manafort lolololol


They would have gotten it out yesterday but ran out of toner.

Manafort is going to be doing some serious time.

Can you imagine the expression on Trump's face, he has never even read a book with 800 pages
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800 pages sentencing memo for Manafort lolololol (Original Post) grantcart Feb 2019 OP
He can't lift a book with 800 pages. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2019 #1
READ THIS FOR SURE! Jeffersons Ghost Feb 2019 #33
Sounds like Mueller has a story to tell. triron Feb 2019 #2
context: Breaking news on MSNBC grantcart Feb 2019 #3
Thanks! janx Feb 2019 #4
Thanks -- just turned it on and am trying to catch up. So is this IT? Or just the latest chapter? Hekate Feb 2019 #6
Memo on sentencing for Manafort grantcart Feb 2019 #8
What ho. Thank you. Hekate Feb 2019 #11
Should probably be it for Manafort... Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #19
I believe we got played last week, someone dewsgirl Feb 2019 #29
Mueller always does something when the Mad King is out of the country though... Hekate Feb 2019 #31
Trump's never read a book with 8 paragraphs... n/t hlthe2b Feb 2019 #5
800 pages of attachments - the muehler report is there...... getagrip_already Feb 2019 #7
Of course, Ken Dilanian is currently on OliverQ Feb 2019 #9
I can't stand that smug idiot! manor321 Feb 2019 #13
I want to punch him right in his face. shockey80 Feb 2019 #14
Yeah, only Yanukovych, eh? janx Feb 2019 #17
First Mueller would have kept that part under sealmor redacted. triron Feb 2019 #18
Wonder what this means then? triron Feb 2019 #20
Seems to be saying that Manafort lied to members of the executive. OliverQ Feb 2019 #21
Perhaps but it may also mean Manafort's deceit joined by them. triron Feb 2019 #22
He's waiting for the KGOP republicans to tell him what it's ok to report Achilleaze Feb 2019 #32
Ken Dilanian is being an ASSHOLE on MSNBC manor321 Feb 2019 #10
"There's nothing there. It's a witch hunt. I never even heard of Manafort. struggle4progress Feb 2019 #12
Mueller files redacted Manafort sentencing memo struggle4progress Feb 2019 #15
A 'hardened' and 'bold' criminal, prosecutors tell judge struggle4progress Feb 2019 #16
But he was just the coffee boy, right? Imagine livetohike Feb 2019 #23
He doesn't read 8 pages a week. Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #24
And the poor bastards in the White House... Dave Starsky Feb 2019 #28
No judge in the U.S. would read past 10-12 pages. former9thward Feb 2019 #25
Wake me when the impeachment hearings start. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #26
Here's links to all three documents fyi Jarqui Feb 2019 #27
Jesus: that's huge gopiscrap Feb 2019 #30

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
33. READ THIS FOR SURE!
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 06:18 AM
Feb 2019
European Union has vowed swift retaliation if Trump follows through on his threat and has prepared tariffs on a total of 20 billion euros in U.S. goods.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211858588

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
6. Thanks -- just turned it on and am trying to catch up. So is this IT? Or just the latest chapter?
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:34 PM
Feb 2019

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
29. I believe we got played last week, someone
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:32 AM
Feb 2019

wanted Trump to hear it would be over soon. That is not the case.

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
31. Mueller always does something when the Mad King is out of the country though...
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:32 AM
Feb 2019

So something may get served up this coming week. Just not the big finale.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
7. 800 pages of attachments - the muehler report is there......
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:37 PM
Feb 2019

And since its a court filing, Barr has zero ability to keep it from the public. As soon as the reasons for redaction are satisfied, the court will make it all public!

BOOM!

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
9. Of course, Ken Dilanian is currently on
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:38 PM
Feb 2019

saying this document doesn't make any reference to conspiracy with Russia.

He's really desperate to push that agenda.

triron

(21,999 posts)
18. First Mueller would have kept that part under sealmor redacted.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:11 PM
Feb 2019

Second Manafort lied (probably extensively) to Mueller to cover something up.
What was he covering up? Not sure why Dilanian makes this point. It's quite lame.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
21. Seems to be saying that Manafort lied to members of the executive.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:22 PM
Feb 2019

Not necessarily that he lied with them.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
32. He's waiting for the KGOP republicans to tell him what it's ok to report
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 06:14 AM
Feb 2019

AP continues its downhill slide...

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
10. Ken Dilanian is being an ASSHOLE on MSNBC
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:40 PM
Feb 2019

Basically saying this document somehow shows Manafort is not involved in the Russia affair.

What a complete fucking ASSHOLE!

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
12. "There's nothing there. It's a witch hunt. I never even heard of Manafort.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:40 PM
Feb 2019

I certainly never ever met him. I used to ask my campaign staff, Who is this Manafort you keep talking about? And they would say, He's that guy that brings you your coffee. And I would say, Oh, him. That's all. Oh, him! I really didn't know him. We never spoke to each other. Roger would drop by and say, Have you spoken to Manafort? And I would say, I never even heard of him. And who the hell are you? And Roger would say, I'm not here. And that is how I remember that I don't know Roger either"

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
15. Mueller files redacted Manafort sentencing memo
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:47 PM
Feb 2019

UPDATED ON: FEBRUARY 23, 2019 / 2:24 PM / CBS/AP

... "Consistent with the practice the special counsel's office has followed, the government does not take a position with respect to a particular sentence to be imposed," the memo filed in federal court in D.C. says. "Instead, the government sets forth its assessment of the nature of the offenses and offender and the applicable advisory sentencing guidelines and sentencing factors."

The deadline for the filing was originally set for Friday, but that may have been extended due to the redaction process. Judge Amy Berman Jackson granted the government permission to file the memo under seal, then file a redacted version ...

The former Trump campaign chairman was originally to be tried in two different cases, one in Virginia and one in the District. He was tried in Virginia, but made a plea deal to avoid the second trial. In the District of Columbia, Manafort was charged with conspiracy to defraud the U.S., failing to register as a foreign agent, money laundering, witness tampering and making false statements.

Because the District case was never tried, it's possible the sentencing memo could illuminate how it is that Manafort fits into Mueller's larger Russian investigation ... Court papers have said Manafort shared polling data related to the Trump campaign with an associate the FBI says has ties to Russian intelligence. A Mueller prosecutor also said earlier this month that an August 2016 meeting between Manafort and the associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, goes to the "heart" of the Russia probe. The meeting involved a discussion of a Ukrainian peace plan, but prosecutors haven't said exactly what has attracted their attention and whether it factors into the Kremlin's attempts to help Mr. Trump in the 2016 election ...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-manafort-sentencing-memo-allowed-to-be-filed-under-seal-live-updates/

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
16. A 'hardened' and 'bold' criminal, prosecutors tell judge
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:50 PM
Feb 2019

By Rachel Weiner February 23 at 2:29 PM

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort “repeatedly and brazenly violated the law” and shows a “hardened adherence to committing crimes,” prosecutors told a Washington federal judge.

They recommended no specific punishment for those crimes, saying that is the practice of the special counsel. Prosecutors noted that federal guidelines call for a sentence of 17 to 22 years, although under Manafort’s guilty plea in his D.C. case, the statutory maximum he faces is 10. The special counsel said that they may ask for Judge Amy Berman Jackson to impose a sentence that runs consecutive to whatever punishment Manafort is given for related crimes in Virginia federal court ...

As part of his plea deal in September, Manafort, 69, acknowledged he was guilty of everything he was accused of both in Washington, D.C. and in Virginia: making millions as an unregistered lobbyist for Ukrainian politicians, hiding that money to avoid paying taxes, defrauding banks to pay his debts when his oligarch patrons fell out of power, and lying to cover up his crimes while trying to persuade witnesses to do the same.

But when he appears in front of Jackson on March 13, he will already have been sentenced for related crimes in federal court in Alexandria, Va., barring any change in the scheduling as now set for those hearings. Jackson could make the sentence she imposes run during or after his Virginia prison term. In Virginia, where Manafort was found guilty of bank and tax fraud at trial, there is no upper limit to his sentence ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/paul-manafort-a-hardened-and-bold-criminal-mueller-prosecutors-tell-judge/2019/02/23/690bd33c-3542-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html?utm_term=.bc5b4dfae700

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
28. And the poor bastards in the White House...
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:24 AM
Feb 2019

Are going to have to condense this down to a single Powerpoint slide with three to four bullet points.

In 72-point font.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
25. No judge in the U.S. would read past 10-12 pages.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 11:33 PM
Feb 2019

It is a waste of paper. When you file briefs with a court there are strict page limits (and font size). There should be the same for sentencing memos because judges won't read them anyway.

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