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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums800 pages sentencing memo for Manafort lolololol
They would have gotten it out yesterday but ran out of toner.
Manafort is going to be doing some serious time.
Can you imagine the expression on Trump's face, he has never even read a book with 800 pages
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211858588
triron
(21,999 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Hekate
(90,644 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Hekate
(90,644 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,646 posts)not for Mueller.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)wanted Trump to hear it would be over soon. That is not the case.
Hekate
(90,644 posts)So something may get served up this coming week. Just not the big finale.
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)getagrip_already
(14,708 posts)And since its a court filing, Barr has zero ability to keep it from the public. As soon as the reasons for redaction are satisfied, the court will make it all public!
BOOM!
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)saying this document doesn't make any reference to conspiracy with Russia.
He's really desperate to push that agenda.
manor321
(3,344 posts)shockey80
(4,379 posts)janx
(24,128 posts)Of course, he never had anything to do with Russia...
triron
(21,999 posts)Second Manafort lied (probably extensively) to Mueller to cover something up.
What was he covering up? Not sure why Dilanian makes this point. It's quite lame.
triron
(21,999 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Not necessarily that he lied with them.
triron
(21,999 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)AP continues its downhill slide...
manor321
(3,344 posts)Basically saying this document somehow shows Manafort is not involved in the Russia affair.
What a complete fucking ASSHOLE!
struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)I certainly never ever met him. I used to ask my campaign staff, Who is this Manafort you keep talking about? And they would say, He's that guy that brings you your coffee. And I would say, Oh, him. That's all. Oh, him! I really didn't know him. We never spoke to each other. Roger would drop by and say, Have you spoken to Manafort? And I would say, I never even heard of him. And who the hell are you? And Roger would say, I'm not here. And that is how I remember that I don't know Roger either"
struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)UPDATED ON: FEBRUARY 23, 2019 / 2:24 PM / CBS/AP
... "Consistent with the practice the special counsel's office has followed, the government does not take a position with respect to a particular sentence to be imposed," the memo filed in federal court in D.C. says. "Instead, the government sets forth its assessment of the nature of the offenses and offender and the applicable advisory sentencing guidelines and sentencing factors."
The deadline for the filing was originally set for Friday, but that may have been extended due to the redaction process. Judge Amy Berman Jackson granted the government permission to file the memo under seal, then file a redacted version ...
The former Trump campaign chairman was originally to be tried in two different cases, one in Virginia and one in the District. He was tried in Virginia, but made a plea deal to avoid the second trial. In the District of Columbia, Manafort was charged with conspiracy to defraud the U.S., failing to register as a foreign agent, money laundering, witness tampering and making false statements.
Because the District case was never tried, it's possible the sentencing memo could illuminate how it is that Manafort fits into Mueller's larger Russian investigation ... Court papers have said Manafort shared polling data related to the Trump campaign with an associate the FBI says has ties to Russian intelligence. A Mueller prosecutor also said earlier this month that an August 2016 meeting between Manafort and the associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, goes to the "heart" of the Russia probe. The meeting involved a discussion of a Ukrainian peace plan, but prosecutors haven't said exactly what has attracted their attention and whether it factors into the Kremlin's attempts to help Mr. Trump in the 2016 election ...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-manafort-sentencing-memo-allowed-to-be-filed-under-seal-live-updates/
struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)By Rachel Weiner February 23 at 2:29 PM
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort repeatedly and brazenly violated the law and shows a hardened adherence to committing crimes, prosecutors told a Washington federal judge.
They recommended no specific punishment for those crimes, saying that is the practice of the special counsel. Prosecutors noted that federal guidelines call for a sentence of 17 to 22 years, although under Manaforts guilty plea in his D.C. case, the statutory maximum he faces is 10. The special counsel said that they may ask for Judge Amy Berman Jackson to impose a sentence that runs consecutive to whatever punishment Manafort is given for related crimes in Virginia federal court ...
As part of his plea deal in September, Manafort, 69, acknowledged he was guilty of everything he was accused of both in Washington, D.C. and in Virginia: making millions as an unregistered lobbyist for Ukrainian politicians, hiding that money to avoid paying taxes, defrauding banks to pay his debts when his oligarch patrons fell out of power, and lying to cover up his crimes while trying to persuade witnesses to do the same.
But when he appears in front of Jackson on March 13, he will already have been sentenced for related crimes in federal court in Alexandria, Va., barring any change in the scheduling as now set for those hearings. Jackson could make the sentence she imposes run during or after his Virginia prison term. In Virginia, where Manafort was found guilty of bank and tax fraud at trial, there is no upper limit to his sentence ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/paul-manafort-a-hardened-and-bold-criminal-mueller-prosecutors-tell-judge/2019/02/23/690bd33c-3542-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html?utm_term=.bc5b4dfae700
livetohike
(22,138 posts)what is to come.
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Are going to have to condense this down to a single Powerpoint slide with three to four bullet points.
In 72-point font.
former9thward
(31,981 posts)It is a waste of paper. When you file briefs with a court there are strict page limits (and font size). There should be the same for sentencing memos because judges won't read them anyway.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!