JUST SAY NO!!! to the businessman concept for the Presidency..

[Peacetrain]

Do not be afraid to confront even your close relatives, the next time they bring up the businessman for President spiel...By this time, we should all know that every time a business man?? gets into the office, we go deeper in dept.. George W Bush, tried running a war on the credit card..and the current resident of the White House gave a enormous tax cut to the wealthy when they did not need it.. The reason medicare is in trouble because the republicans refused to let them bargain with Big Pharma the same way the military does..the list is endless


Government is NOT a business.. you cannot refuse to take care of the customer or fire the voters.. or go private with it..

[Sherman A1]

1. I disagree that we should exclude anyone based upon their

profession. Yes, we have had some rather poor luck with the GOP version of "Businessmen" as Presidents, but that does not disqualify every businessman or businesswoman who seeks the office.

I like this guy who is a businessman and is very concerned about both people and the future.

https://www.yang2020.com

[Peacetrain]

3. You cannot run the government like a business...

they have totally different outlines... can a businessperson run the government using the parameters that are particular to government .. of course.. but not the parameters that are particular to private business.. It does not work..

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. You CAN run government like a business, but they never do

They deliberately do not say that one of the main principles of business it that you make money by spending money.

A well run government spends taxpayer money to support taxpayers so they can be productive and earn greater prosperity and enjoy life more. Good government invests in:

* Education so people have skills and wisdom (understanding) to be really productive.
* Health care so that illness is prevented, alleviated quickly, and people can spend more time gaining prosperity.
* Environment so that people are not debilitated by pollution.
* Consumer protection so that people don't have their life savings taken by crooks.
* Productive infrastructure such as public transportation for efficient movement of goods and services and people.

When you invest in the well-being of the People of the USA, the country remains competitive and a great place to live.

Also:
Raise taxes and lower spending when the economy is good.
Lower taxes and raise spending when the economy is bad and needs stimulus.

Democrats know this, but Republicons are always on about lowering taxes no matter what, so they therefore spend up huge deficits.

[KPN]

18. Spot on!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

22. No, you can't run a government like a business.

Governments have obligations that businesses don't have. Obligations that can't possibly make money. Things like a military. Infrastructure costs.

And in fact, when governments decide to outsource parts of their obligations, thinking it will be cheaper that way, it usually winds up costing far more and is vastly more inefficient.

[Sherman A1]

15. Not saying that it should be

But that is a different argument. I believe that no one should be excluded based upon their background, your suggestion is rather discriminatory in suggesting that they should be and who will be the judge of what you recommend?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

5. I don't know if we should categorically exclude everybody

who is a businessperson. I would want to see how they conducted themselves but I agree that the management style is different. So far, I’ve not been impressed.

[DownriverDem]

8. What party is he running in?

I support members of the Democratic Party period. We have some very fine Democratic Party candidates.

[Sherman A1]

12. Democratic Party

Take a look at his proposals.

[Pepsidog]

24. Yea Bloomberg, whom I not endorsing, or a guy like Mark Cuban are successful businessmen who have

good judgement, a trait I value highly in a candidate. Trump is a fraud and that is the problem. His people buy into the fiction of Trump the great businessman when in fact his record is one failed business after another. Try and convince them otherwise is a fools errand. I guess it won’t be until he adds the US economy and democracy to his list of failures that people will realize just how bad of a businessman he is. I think there is an old and very flattering history channel bio of Trump portraying him as a great deal maker. There is also a real bio which chronicles all his failures. He is a joke in NY real estate known for buying high and selling low. About the only thing he did right was develop an area of Manhattan but he was much younger when he did that. The Apprentice was all Mark Burnett.

[Farmer-Rick]

2. Yup, our government is Not a business

And it can't be run like one. The bottom line is NOT profits.

[Peacetrain]

4. ah yep

[DownriverDem]

9. What's wrong with our health care

It's "for profit". After WWll the US set up national health care in Japan and Germany (west). If we didn't have "for profit" we could have it too.

[Fresh_Start]

6. and the businessmen in the cabinet were not any better

they were all thieves robbing from the people

[SouthernLiberal]

21. The problem with businessmen

is that business today is run for the benefit of the people who run them. I can remember when C-level business people were paid a salary and got huge bonuses. They ran the business in the best way to get more bonuses. This did not always work in favor of the major shareholders, so the bonuses turned into stock options, so that CEO pay was aligned with shareholder interest.

Then, a curious thing happened. More and more pretty large companies found that their largest shareholder (or sometimes just largest individual shareholder) was the CEO. And once again, every one else's interests were no better than second to the CEO's interest.

And now we have a President who wants to run the USA for his sole benefit.

[Girard442]

7. Most really, really successful "businessmen" aren't businessmen.

They're scamsters, financial manipulators, tyrants, and white-collar criminals who haven't been caught yet.

[Firestorm49]

10. Watch out for Mitt.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Well, tRump did fire the voters & RepubliCons privatizing SocSec & refusing to care for citizens. nt

[duforsure]

14. Remember too,

A business man was responsible for what happened in Flint with their water being poisoned, and trumps doing the same thing with everything environmental now increasing pollution of everything.

[PatrickforO]

16. Agreed on all points.

Trump represents everything evil about American business in the 21st century. To me, at least. And this Starbucks guy? Not much better.

[paleotn]

17. The irony is, any business run like this.....

would quickly go out of business. But to your point, the whole premise of operating government like a business is idiotic. Governments exist to organize and provide a level of stability and predictability in human society. The best of them include the rule of law and protection of individual rights, whatever a society decides those rights may be. It's not a profit making enterprise. It does not have shareholders or investors expecting a return on their invested capital. At best, if looked at sideways in a very dark room, government vaguely resembles an insurance company, with no profits and very poorly paid top managers by today's standards. Beyond that, it's like comparing bowling balls and oak trees.

[rickyhall]

19. Trump no original as thinks he is

"Run government like business came from Carter, MAGA came from Raygun. In fact, the Orange One's whole Shtick is a supercharged evil Raygun. I don't think Raygun was evil, just stupid and greedy, like all repugs.

[disillusioned73]

20. I've been argueing this..

with the owner of the company I work for - for years.. they really don't get it, it will never sink in with them.. They believe in the "masters of the universe" concept that always puts their interest first.. essentially, it's TRICKLE DOWN without the stigma..

[TryLogic]

23. Thank you, thank you. Thank you.

An organization is either for profit, or for the people they serve. They are either trying to relieve you of your money or provide services and fair opportunities. They are either investing in the long term well being of the nation or next quarter's profits. Business economics is about cutting corners, cutting costs, and serving managers... and, to some extent, benefiting shareholders.

Business managers have very little appreciation for process, especially inefficient processes as in a democracy. A representative democracy as we are supposed to have should be reasonably efficient, but lobbying (by for profit businesses, of course) does great damage to representative democratic processes.

In the world of business, quid pro quo is a normal and acceptable practice, an art form. Deal making. Not so in government although negotiations and compromises in entities such as congress are obviously a close cousin. Businesses often function at the very edge of legal. Governments should not. Ethics and regulations for businesses are a nuisance. Ethics and regulations in government are intended to facilitate safety and fairness among constituents.

Unregulated capitalism as Republicans keep promoting is especially good for the greedy class. Why is it the Russian government has been able to compromise so many Republicans? I suggest the explanation is about greed, unethical behavior, and even illegal behavior.

Keep business persons, especially Republican business persons, out of the White House!

[Blue Owl]

25. K&R