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Matt Gaetz's references to Cohen's father-in-law need explaining, and that hasn't happened much. He's a figure in New York organised crime; so saying "I know you cheated on his daughter, Cohen" is a highly threatening thing. This isn't about whether he'll get snubbed at the cigar bar; this is about a man involved in organised crime. From the reliable Talking Points Memo:
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Its a quick excursion through Cohens various lies and the fact that hes about to go to jail for those lies. Then at one point Gaetz asks this run of rhetorical questions: Does he lie to his own family? Does he lie to his financiers? Does he lie to his financiers who are members of his family?
Thats kind of an oddly specific subset question if you dont know any context: Does he lie to his financiers who are members of his family? Remember, Shusterman is a conduit for money out of Ukraine and Russia. He pled guilty to a money laundering related crime. All evidence suggests that it was with Shustermans money and connections that Cohen built his fortune. That odd last question is obviously a reference to Shusterman.
Now, maybe Gaetz is just a close reader of all the posts Ive done on this topic. Or, somewhat more likely, maybe hes just listened very closely to all of Trumps comments about Shusterman and meshed those with research into Cohens financial history in the taxi business, business ventures in Ukraine and other all-cash businesses popular with ex-Soviet emigres in Brooklyn. Certainly possible. But I think theres a more likely possibility: That Gaetz got this all from Trump himself. Again, they appear to talk all the time and hes given Gaetz suggestions and goads like this in the past.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/prime-beta/did-matt-gaetz-get-his-cohen-marching-orders-from-boss-trump
(subscription only link, but it turned up in the general TPM RSS feed)
Panich52
(5,829 posts)Like it hasn't been screenshot numerous times. And like any rational person actually believes the sincerity of his apology.
George II
(67,782 posts)... he'd eventually wind up deleting it. There are probably tens of thousands of screen shots out there.
moondust
(19,966 posts)after Trump threatened his family. Gaetz may be following the Trump playbook trying to silence him again--maybe permanently this time if he "gets the message."
Speaking of threats, I wonder if Cohen has said anything new about the threat Stormy Daniels claims she received in a parking lot in 2011. Maybe somebody should ask him about it.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/03/25/politics/60-minutes-stormy-daniels-interview-main/index.html
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,984 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)This has republican Dirty Donny* written all over it.
* aka republican Draft-dodger-in-Chief
sinkingfeeling
(51,443 posts)Vinca
(50,248 posts)father who Chris Christie sent to the big house. The one thing they all have in common is Donald Trump.
True Blue American
(17,982 posts)Funny, Matt is calling Cohen a liar while he is defending the worst liar on earth!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Gaetz#Drunk_driving_arrest_and_speeding_tickets
PatSeg
(47,351 posts)This guy is hard one to be casting stones. Privileged punk.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)Cohen was Trump's go to guy to fix (make go away) many unseemly and risky ventures Trump would engage in. The shade Gaetz is throwing here also tars Trump, including exposing Trump as a liar.
And while all of this is going on at home Trump is in Vietnam relying on Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov, rather than his own Secretary of State, to negotiate with North Korea's Kim. Now what could possibly go wrong with that arrangement. The guy is unstable or worse.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,294 posts)because that embarrasses Trump. So Gaetz is saying they know how to turn the connected Shusterman against Cohen - which puts Cohen in both financial and physical danger.
Secondly, they want to discredit Cohen as much as possible, so that they can say "he's a huge liar, don't trust anything he says". They need to paint him as some fantasist who is claiming a closer connection to Trump than they want to admit to.