DISCUSSION THREAD: Michael Cohen's testimony before the House Oversight Committee

[brooklynite]

Starts at 10 AM.

[OliverQ]

1. Cohen is going to implicate Trump in at least a dozen felonies.

It's so disgusting that he's still in office. Republicans truly are the enemies of America.

[bobGandolf]

121. Trump needs to go now!

Trump is a behavioral epidemic that is spreading.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

2. Steel yourself for tons of distractions...

Republicans will throw every trick they can conceive of to distract, disrupt, discredit any testimony they believe will be damaging to Individual #1. Going to be a long day.

[BSdetect]

21. They are complicit in his crimes then. They know he's a lying sack of shit and serious criminal

as well as a traitor.

Yet they persist in trying to cover his ass.

[Soxfan58]

54. If Cohen is lying

Prove it. Show evidence like Innocent people do.

[onit2day]

117. Their president is a pathological liar and they are condescending toward Cohen?

[BostonBlue]

3. Hopefully the Dem committe members work together to outline a clear narrative

of Dump's crimes, instead of all going off in different directions. The Kavanaugh hearing is s good example of ineffective questioning.

[exboyfil]

36. Democrats working together is like herding cats

As you said see the Kavanaugh hearings. The rest of the committee should yield time to one or two members with prosecutorial experience.

[brooklynite]

4. Committee Members

Majority

Elijah Cummings, Maryland, Chairman

Carolyn Maloney, New York
Eleanor Holmes Norton, District of Columbia
Lacy Clay, Missouri
Stephen F. Lynch, Massachusetts
Jim Cooper, Tennessee
Gerry Connolly, Virginia
Raja Krishnamoorthi, Illinois
Jamie Raskin, Maryland
Harley Rouda, California
Katie Hill, California, Vice Chair
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Florida
John Sarbanes, Maryland
Peter Welch, Vermont
Jackie Speier, California
Robin Kelly, Illinois
Mark DeSaulnier, California
Brenda Lawrence, Michigan
Stacey Plaskett, U.S. Virgin Islands
Ro Khanna, California
Jimmy Gomez, California
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, New York
Ayanna Pressley, Massachusetts
Rashida Tlaib, Michigan

Minority

Jim Jordan, Ohio, Ranking Member

Justin Amash, Michigan
Paul Gosar, Arizona
Virginia Foxx, North Carolina
Thomas Massie, Kentucky
Mark Meadows, North Carolina
Jody Hice, Georgia
Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin
James Comer, Kentucky
Michael Cloud, Texas
Bob Gibbs, Ohio
Clay Higgins, Louisiana
Ralph Norman, South Carolina
Chip Roy, Texas
Carol Miller, West Virginia
Mark E. Green, Tennessee
Kelly Armstrong, North Dakota
Greg Steube, Florida

[demmiblue]

5. Yamiche Alcindor:

A Democratic House source tells me Dems expect an 8 to 9 hour hearing for Michael Cohen’s testimony and that they expect Republicans to try to slow down the hearing by making multiple objections and challenging the very premise of the hearing.

Link to tweet

[brooklynite]

6. Congressman Cummings just gaveled in the Hearing.

And Congressman Meadows immediately interrupts, complaining that testimony wasn't provided in advance.

[bluestarone]

7. The most felonious president that

The senate WON'T (indict)! (SAD)

[blogslut]

8. Mark Meadows (R) out of the gate trying to postpone right out of the gate

Wee children throwing fits

[Takket]

12. He is on about some testimony not being available 24 hours ahead of time

[janx]

13. There's not that much!

Meadows and Jordan are so transparent.

[Politicub]

15. I don't care, do u?

[Takket]

9. Rethugs already demanding end of hearing

[BumRushDaShow]

10. GOP children have a temper tantrum

[demmiblue]

11. It is already starting to be a shit show.

I'm not sure I can handle watched this!

[Takket]

14. "Reclaiming my time" equals go F yourself lol

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

30. Bingo!

[janx]

16. Keep in mind this is his public testimony.

There's no telling what he said to congressional committees in private.

[Achilleaze]

17. republican ADULTERY back in the news. Stormy shit shows...

how low republican "morals" are.

[nolabear]

18. Rep. Cummings has his "I have ALL the things to say" voice on.

[underpants]

19. Thank you. I was just about to start one (late)

At work so I can’t watchnit and the one line threads are too much.

[nolabear]

20. Jim Jordan is being the goon he's always wanted to be.

The Clintons are doing it!

Oh I DO hope so.

[mnhtnbb]

22. I can't wait to see the cartoons tomorrow

showing the Republicans lining up to kiss 45's traitorous orange ass.

[Auggie]

23. Jim Jordan's gerrymandered Ohio 4th congressional district: holy cow!

[mindfulNJ]

24. Ugh. I was wrong...I thought I could watch this..

but I could actually feel my blood pressure rise when Jordan started talking. I'll have to rely on you good people to filter it for me.

[BumRushDaShow]

25. He is a lunatic.

[csziggy]

38. I may break my "mute" button on my remote

When Meadows and Jordan started talking, I grabbed for the remote and punched MUTE. If I have to this this a few hundred times today I may break it!

[mfcorey1]

63. I join you in that!

After Cohen's opening gave us a deeper picture of the thug in the People's House, I cannot bear to listen to his minions try to destroy the truth!

[janx]

26. Jordan just can't let the Clintons go...n/t

[uponit7771]

27. *** CUT HIS MIC !!! ***

[Takket]

28. This "Cohen is a liar" thing is absurd

Cohen lies to protect drumpf. Look where that got him??? What incentive does he have to lie now??? That condition no longer exists.

[SummerSnow]

29. You can smell the fear in the room

[Takket]

31. Hey look! Cohen gets to speak!

[Guilded Lilly]

32. A thank-you to brave DU'er's who can watch and report. Already Jordan is actually making me ill.

[still_one]

57. same here

[Guilded Lilly]

95. When Jordan is speaking I turn the sound off and...

Can’t even look at the TV.
I’ve been an Ohioan for 40 years now and have seen the foul character of Jordan on display on several levels for many of the last years.

This is an historic day, but I just...can’t... with Jordan.

[still_one]

101. My sympathies. Maybe that will change in 2020

[spooky3]

33. I'm surprised though that, if there is a 24 hour rule for

Providing the written statement in advance, the Dems didn’t insure this was done, to give Repubs less to whine about.

[Hortensis]

97. Maybe they didn't know this. :)

Surely Ocasio-Cortez, Tlaib, or Pressley might have known and could have at least clued Elijah Cummings or co-chair Katie Hill in? Surely someone among the dozens could have offered a suggestion during the weeks of planning?

[nolabear]

34. I hope Spanky is watching and breathing into a bag.

This is now history. His history. Threaten THAT, you asshole.

[brooklynite]

35. "He is a Racist. He is a Con Man. He is a Cheat"

Ouch.

[nolabear]

37. Chris Hayes says the histrionics are to try to grab the headlines.

He has a point. I hope Rep. Cummings has an iron fist.

[brooklynite]

39. Question: How is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez going to handle her first major Committee Hearing?

(she'll be at the back end of the questioning)

[cbdo2007]

40. Wow, I don't usually get sucked in but this is amazing to hear...

It's like watching history.

[nolabear]

47. Oh it IS watching history. All the fancy portraits in the world

won’t overcome this.

[demmiblue]

41. He seems genuinely concerned for and about his family.

I feel for them.

[janx]

42. "Individual #1"

[rufus dog]

43. FOR THE RECORD!!!!

INDIVIDUAL #1 IS DONALD TRUMP!



and the only time Rufus Dog didn't use tRump.

[demmiblue]

44. Important point:

Michael Cohen testifies that Trump’s personal lawyers didn’t just review *BUT ALSO EDITED* his false statement to Congress about the timeline of Trump Tower negotiations in Moscow.

Link to tweet

[redstatebluegirl]

58. Sounds like some people are going to be answering to the Bar Association.

[nolabear]

45. Amazing to hear what we've all been saying validated.

There’s almost a “Well DUH” quality to it, and yet it’s so sweet. We ALL know these things are true.

[janx]

46. Yes, it is different listening to Cohen

say these things under oath, out loud.

[Takket]

48. This is INCREDIBLE

And he brought documents to back all this up. So can’t just dismiss this as lies.

[nolabear]

49. I haven't felt this good in two years.

[rurallib]

118. me also - I feel like it is literally the dawn of a new day!

I feel invigorated.

Much more to come I hope

[Takket]

50. Cadet bone spurs DIDN'T EVEN HAVE BONE SPURS!!!

[demmiblue]

51. Trump is going to be absolutely LIVID with Cohen's commentary.

[smirkymonkey]

83. I hope he strokes out.

I am so sick of all his drama.

[nolabear]

52. And down goes Junior!

[demmiblue]

61. Video:

Link to tweet

Oh my!

[underpants]

79. Read that this morning. Trump thinks as much of him as everyone else

[OliverQ]

53. Hearing this in person with so many crimes laid it, it's astounding.

The fact that 40% of this country supports this criminal is insane.

[nolabear]

55. 45's current mental state per Scott Dworkin'stweet:

Link to tweet

[BumRushDaShow]

59. Oh my.

And this is why Gymaster Jordan was freaking out about not getting a copy of the statement until last night and blaming the Democrats (and Cummings reminded him that he didn't get until then too).

[nolabear]

60. The fact he's blindsided is evidence of their incompetence.

The whole damn COUNTRY had this thing last night!

[BumRushDaShow]

62. Yup.

He was trying to claim they were supposed to have documents available "24 hours before" the committee hearing.

Oh well....

[underpants]

76. I read it with my first cup of coffee this morning

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

71. That's what Spanky gets for only watching Fox News.

He was probably so busy basking in the expected glory of his meeting with Kim and thinking about his Nobel Peace Prize while jerking off to Hannity on Fox that he was blindsided by the scope of Cohen's testimony.

The taste of his tears is like ambrosia.

[RockRaven]

108. Didn't know he could bring evidence? Jesus...

We were reminded yet again that the WH is full of incompetent, if deeply mendacious and criminal, morons when the story came out that Dump and some of his staffers were caught off guard by the fact that Congress can override an emergency declaration. They. Don't. Know. How. Anything. Works. They really are just semi-sentient protoplasm running around pulling levers and pushing buttons, and everything is a black box to them.

Didn't know someone could give documentary evidence to the committee? What kind of moron would assume a Congressional committee only dealt with oral testimony? Christ almighty.

[drray23]

56. I see why he was trump's fixer

This guy is smart. He is demolishing trump in his opening statement , backing it with factual evidence. Right out of the gate he addressed his credibility issues and then proceeded to lay it thick. I dont see how the trumpists get past that.

[Mr.Bill]

124. They will simply call all his documents

forgeries and fakes.

[nolabear]

64. Lord, Jordan...

I guess he’s doing his thing. His slimy, hysterical little thing.

[spanone]

65. Jim Jordan is proving that trump hires sleeeezebags.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

66. Jordan is such an asshat.

[nolabear]

67. LOL! He's schooling Jordan!

[Javaman]

69. how so? (video challenged here. ) nt

[nolabear]

73. Jordan is claiming he's seeking revenge for not getting a WH job

and he’s citing numerous occasions when he turned them down. In four part harmony. He shut him down as only a lawyer would.

[NewJeffCT]

74. Cohen is shooting them down?

or somebody else?

[nolabear]

77. Cohen took on Jordan's smears very well. JJ overreached badly.

[Javaman]

82. thanks! nt

[NewJeffCT]

84. Cohen

the guy that supposedly went to the worst law school in the country just outwitted the minority leader?

[nolabear]

87. To be fair JJ is a low bar.

Listening to him is going to be the painful part.

[uponit7771]

89. +1, he sounds unprepared for any questions lowering Cohen's credibility and they're just

... repeating crap about how Cohen lied about something and ignoring the documents.

[nolabear]

99. I think they all agreed on that.

[drray23]

125. well, you dont get to be a fixer for a con man like trump without having smarts.nt.

[janx]

70. I know. It's hilarious.

[Zoonart]

68. Hey Jim Jordan...

YOU ARE WORKING FOR THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

Just sayin'.

[DBoon]

109. you mean this president?

[Zoonart]

111. Yeah... that's him.

[Joe941]

72. Can we start impeachment hearings now?!

[nolabear]

75. Boy the Democrats came to play. DWS is cutting to the chase.

Russia Russia with a side of Russian dressing.

[dustyscamp]

78. Fuck off Mr Green

[Doodley]

80. Mark Green: Cohen a self-serving liar. Doesn't matter Trump lies all the time.

[cbdo2007]

93. Lol, this would be a great question from one of the Dems:

"Mr. Cohen, you are getting quite a bit of questions regarding your character and history of lying. We have thousands of documented examples of President Trump lying, so between two liars, who should we believe?"

[Doodley]

96. Yes!

[demmiblue]

81. @DWStweets : "If Trump and his daughter Ivanka and son Donald Jr. are involved in the Russian Trump

@DWStweets: "If Trump and his daughter Ivanka and son Donald Jr. are involved in the Russian Trump Tower deal, is it possible the whole family is conflicted or compromised with a foreign adversary in the months before the election?"

COHEN: "Yes"

Link to tweet

[nolabear]

85. Cohen is doing quite a job of not letting them railroad him.

Apparently Jordan is the pit bull designate.

[demmiblue]

86. Lol... he asks who Mr. Green would like to play him in his movie.

[Nanjeanne]

88. It's so confusing. If every R on his committee says nothing Cohen says is credible - why are they

asking any questions?

[uponit7771]

90. +1, why do they even care about this "nothing burger" ?!!?

[uponit7771]

91. Republicans sound very unprepared in their questioning, they're getting caught left and right

[Javaman]

92. they have always been unprepared. only before they held the cards, now the Dems do

and they arrogantly believe they can still use the same bullshit tactics as before.

they could have prepared but didn't and they have failed at their one chance.

aka they are fucked now and from everything I'm reading, they know this full well.

it's so sweet. LOL

[underpants]

110. Yeah they just parrot what they hear on Fox

at least in public. Dare they alter from the propaganda machine.

[Cousin Dupree]

94. The repugs bluster and bullshit is falling flat. And Gym Jordan is a complete jerk

[blogslut]

98. The GOP keeps trying to Shame Cohen

It's not working. LOL

[nolabear]

100. Yep, it's all they've got.

[uponit7771]

107. IKR !?!?! A person who's already admitted to being lower than dirt and giving written evidence of ..

... statements is more credible than claiming to be an angle and giving no account.

[brooklynite]

102. New Discussion Thread 2 continues here:

Last edited Wed Feb 27, 2019, 04:15 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211869035

[demmiblue]

105. Rep. Meadows head is about to pop off.

He is so agitated and red-faced.

[nolabear]

103. Boy, Cohen is good at this. He's giving the sneakers a rough time.

They’re repeatedly trying to trap him and then trying to shut his answers down. Because he’s schooling them.

[Politicub]

104. I'm looking forward to hearings questioning AMI media executives

That would be natural follow up to confirm or refute the comments about “catch and kill”.

[IGoToDU]

106. MR. CLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Seedersandleechers]

112. If Trump's lawyer is a criminal

what does that make Trump?

[nolabear]

114. It's the trap they can't spring. They seem unable to grasp that.

[nolabear]

113. Go Lynch!!! Actual receipts!

[raging moderate]

115. Stephen Lynch (Massachusetts)!

He is doing a good job.

[nolabear]

116. Whoee! He's going after him, them and ALL their kind!

Incredible. I’m starting to respect his skills.

[Firestorm49]

119. So far, just a bench of name calling. Grade school stuff.

[IGoToDU]

120. WOWWWWW

That "gentlewoman from Kentucky" is a LULU.

[demmiblue]

122. House Oversight Cmte. members still to question Michael Cohen:

House Oversight Cmte. members still to question Michael Cohen:

• Rep. Khanna
• Rep. Gomez
• Rep. Ocasio-Cortez
• Rep. Pressley
• Rep. Tlaib

(Corrects: Rep. Plaskett has already questioned Cohen)

Link to tweet

[Blue_Tires]

123. This is the part where I give a hearty "FUCK OFF AND DIE"

To the "Yeah, but Hillary would have been even worse!" -faction of the left....