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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:05 AM Mar 2019

House Democrats explode in recriminations as liberals lash out at moderates


By Mike DeBonis February 28 at 7:35 PM

House Democrats exploded in recriminations Thursday over moderates bucking the party, with liberal Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez threatening to put those voting with Republicans “on a list” for a primary challenge.

In a closed-door session, a frustrated Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) lashed out at about two dozen moderates and pressured them to get on board. “We are either a team or we’re not, and we have to make that decision,” Pelosi said, according to two people present but not authorized to discuss the remarks publicly.

But Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), the unquestioned media superstar of the freshman class, upped the ante, admonishing the moderates and indicating she would help liberal activists unseat them in the 2020 election.

Corbin Trent, a spokesman for Ocasio-Cortez, said she told her colleagues that Democrats who side with Republicans “are putting themselves on a list.”

“She said that when activists ask her why she had to vote for a gun safety bill that also further empowers an agency that forcibly injects kids with psychotropic drugs, they’re going to want a list of names and she’s going to give it to them,” Trent said, referring to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

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House Democrats explode in recriminations as liberals lash out at moderates (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2019 OP
The media ALWAYS says "Democrats in disarray" manor321 Mar 2019 #1
anything to stir discourse with in democratic circles is media fodder. The problem with AOC and beachbum bob Mar 2019 #2
This is true. Zoonart Mar 2019 #3
It works just fine in Illinois, thank you. hedda_foil Mar 2019 #6
The media loves this 'scenario' spanone Mar 2019 #4
Who is Mike DeBoner? watoos Mar 2019 #5
This public bickering, does nothing to but encourage republicans/Russians... dubyadiprecession Mar 2019 #7
Maybe. But the private bikering is a central aspect to keeping a caucus on message Tom Rinaldo Mar 2019 #8
Eating each other again? T'was ever thus. Odoreida Mar 2019 #9
Vote with repukes, suffer the same fate as repukes...come 2020 you're history. pecosbob Mar 2019 #10
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #12
I always expect to get hammered when I post stuff like this...thanx. pecosbob Mar 2019 #13
You're welcome! I am so tired of Dems being constantly dragged toward the right because they smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #14
That's quite a generalization. AOC just voted with the Repubs against opening govt. n/t seaglass Mar 2019 #17
Nit-picking...context is all important in this instance pecosbob Mar 2019 #18
Stating fact. Context is always important however AOC was not elected judge and jury. n/t seaglass Mar 2019 #19
There are few things as discouraging as Ds voting R G_j Mar 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #15
It's pretty simple...reject labels and dance with the one what brung ya. pecosbob Mar 2019 #16
While I understand the frustration Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 #20
never is a long time Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #22
Well, we knew the purge was coming sooner or later... Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #21
EXPLODE? Sugar Smack Mar 2019 #23
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. The media ALWAYS says "Democrats in disarray"
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:15 AM
Mar 2019

If this was Republicans the media would emphasize that leadership was successfully imposing discipline or something.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. anything to stir discourse with in democratic circles is media fodder. The problem with AOC and
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:22 AM
Mar 2019

others like her, they live in a small world and fail to understand what may work in their small world will not work in Illinois or Ohio or a whole host of areas. I opposed all forms of litmus ideological test for any purity in democratic party. Otherwise we become GOP-lite, Pelosi is 100% correct, behind close doors have the debate, but in the open they must be unified except when political expediency is required....for safeguarding more conservative democrats.

Zoonart

(11,855 posts)
3. This is true.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:32 AM
Mar 2019

Each congressperson is elected to represent the wants and needs of their constituents. Those needs vary from state to state and district to district.
The Gentlewoman from NY does not get to dictate the agenda for the Gentle man/woman from Idaho. That's where building consensus comes in and it takes time.
Has time become somewhat compressed? especially when we are talking environment...certainly, but right now... in this very moment the consensus needs to be more focused on getting this criminal out of the White House so we can once again work to build consensus for the betterment of the American people.

dubyadiprecession

(5,707 posts)
7. This public bickering, does nothing to but encourage republicans/Russians...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 09:56 AM
Mar 2019

To help undermine our democracy.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
8. Maybe. But the private bikering is a central aspect to keeping a caucus on message
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:06 AM
Mar 2019

acting with united resolve. There are differences among Democrats. Always have been and always will. But Pelosi is doing exactly what a Speaker must do to "encourage" unity in a caucus by confronting a handful of dissidents in open discussion behind closed doors. And the fact that some of that will leak is baked into the equation.

pecosbob

(7,537 posts)
10. Vote with repukes, suffer the same fate as repukes...come 2020 you're history.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:19 AM
Mar 2019

get on the wave or get out of the pool. Reps in blue or purple states need to work on messaging and denounce the right-wing propaganda machine.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. You're welcome! I am so tired of Dems being constantly dragged toward the right because they
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:36 AM
Mar 2019

think it's going to win them elections. It hasn't been working and it is very clear that it won't serve us well in 2020.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
11. There are few things as discouraging as Ds voting R
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:22 AM
Mar 2019

And I’m not sure how that qualifies as ”moderate”.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,936 posts)
20. While I understand the frustration
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 04:45 PM
Mar 2019

You're never going to elect someone like AOC in West Virginia and similar states.

The more moderate Dems are part of what gives the party control of the House. You may not get all you want but you'll get more of it with Nancy Pelosi in charge instead of Paul Ryan.

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
23. EXPLODE?
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 05:54 PM
Mar 2019

lashes out, slams, wallops, hits back at, decimates, destroys, nukes, smashes, reams, eviscerates, smacks down, fights back, strikes back, plows, stomps, shatters, slashes, attacks, lunges at, snaps, knocks, jabs, disembowels, beats, shoots down, strings up, whacks, assaults, slices/dices, thrashes, whips, battles, clashes, returns the blow, kicks back, hits below the belt, scuffles, at war with, scorches, burns, threatens (vows, warns, cautions), assails, brawls (& melee), fisticuffs, sacks, pummels, skirmishes, batters, fires back, sounds alarm, savages, trounces, pounces, flays, storms, pounds, punches back, hammers, tackles, shreds, blisters

I'm so tired of this Sturm und Drang in media headlines "launched at" us for two years. What the fuck ever happened to "responded", "replied", "rebutted" or even "retorted"? Every one of those words they overuse (promiscuously) evokes PAIN.

2 years is way too long for these ugly, divisive people to be in our heads. We're going to come out of this (please Jesus) with PTSD, as adrenalin junkies, or as raging alcoholics if we're not vigilantly safeguarding our sanity.

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