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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:52 AM Mar 2019

The neo-Nazi plot against America is much bigger than we realize

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/02/christopher-hasson-coast-guard-neo-nazi-far-right

Lt Christopher Hasson is the product of traditions in white supremacist circles, and experts say there are ‘thousands like him’

Vegas Tenold


In the early summer of 2017, US coast guard lieutenant Christopher Hasson had an idea. He had been trying to figure out an effective way of killing billions of people – “almost every last person on Earth” – but found himself coming up against the daunting logistics of such a task.

He suspected “a plague would be most successful”, but didn’t know how to get his hands on enough Spanish flu, botulism or anthrax. His idea, he wrote in a draft email from 2 June of that year, would be to “start with biological attacks followed by attack on food supply”. He acknowledged the plan needed more research.

While horrifying in their ambition, Hasson’s plans, gleaned from email drafts, are scatterbrained and bear the hallmarks of a person still trying to figure things out. His tentative plans, outlined mostly in emails to himself, were thwarted when he was arrested last month on firearms and drugs charges and investigators discovered his inner life as a neo-Nazi and his plans for mass murder – along with a huge cache of weapons and a hit list of prominent Democrats and media figures.

What is clear, however, is that Hasson was inspired by others who came before him, and that he is likely very far from alone.

Hasson is the product of both established traditions within white supremacist circles as well as new developments. He was at once inspired by old ideas and determined to go beyond them to create more havoc than any who had come before him.

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The neo-Nazi plot against America is much bigger than we realize (Original Post) G_j Mar 2019 OP
Many of us have seen this in the making for awhile. Behind the Aegis Mar 2019 #1
i was working on my reply while yours was posting rampartc Mar 2019 #3
I fear even with this plan exposed JustAnotherGen Mar 2019 #4
rec the full guardian article rampartc Mar 2019 #2
Law Enforcement Roy Rolling Mar 2019 #5
As was pointed out by Rage Against the Machine chwaliszewski Mar 2019 #6
Lol it's a rock song created to move product Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #9
That may be true. However,... chwaliszewski Mar 2019 #11
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2019 #10
This should have 500 recs malaise Mar 2019 #7
Not very smart sending incriminating emails to one's self. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #8
I read that when Repbs controlled Congress, they prohibited funding research of right wing groups. 3Hotdogs Mar 2019 #13
This is the goal of the GOP. IluvPitties Mar 2019 #12
A few days ago, I was researching this Skidmore Mar 2019 #14
SPLC's annual count of hate groups shows fourth straight year of growth G_j Mar 2019 #15

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
1. Many of us have seen this in the making for awhile.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:09 AM
Mar 2019

We are nothing more than Cassandras at this point. Keep in mind, this plot is one that was uncovered and we were told. There are more. What concerns me more is how many are not on the radar. Frankly, I am worried, but won't be surprised, as to when we will see a live assassination of a political figure, but more likely, a television reporter. While these plots and nut-jobs have always been around, it has become more acceptable because of the nature of this country as led from the top and his collaborators and defenders.

rampartc

(5,404 posts)
3. i was working on my reply while yours was posting
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:22 AM
Mar 2019

for every tim mcveigh or eric rudolph there are communities of supporters.

https://www.armyofgod.com/

rampartc

(5,404 posts)
2. rec the full guardian article
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:15 AM
Mar 2019

i'm not sure if these guys are "leaderless" or merely cellular but there seem to be a lot of them.

i'm also not certain that law enforcement takes them seriously. occupy was full of undercover and informants, as were the antiwar and civil rights movements, anti globalists and environmental groups. are we sure that these violent "patriots" are receiving that kind of attention?

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
5. Law Enforcement
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 06:45 AM
Mar 2019

Of course law enforcement doesn't take them seriously. In many cases, law enforcement agrees with them.

And, sadly, in a few cases, the violent right-wingers are law enforcement.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
9. Lol it's a rock song created to move product
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:55 AM
Mar 2019

I guarantee you...no, I know with metaphysical certainty that the FBI has many embeds and informants in right wing organizations all over the place.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
8. Not very smart sending incriminating emails to one's self.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:45 AM
Mar 2019

But, this mentality points to suspected psychopathy which exists in a significant percentage of our populace. They don't care about consequences and they're perfect for Trump's fascist campaigns.

Snip from article:

“We know that there’s significant illegal activity happening that the government needs to be aware of, the problem is that the government isn’t collecting information about it in a way that lets us assess how widespread the problem is. The FBI has had concerns about white supremacist activity within the military and law enforcement for a long time, but there’s little evidence of investigations into it.”

Didn't I read somewhere recently that Trump had cut support of Justice operations charged with investigating this very problem?

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
14. A few days ago, I was researching this
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 10:44 AM
Mar 2019

WWG1WGA hashtag I kept seeing on twitter. I came across an essay written by a Martin Geddes, entitled "WWG1WGA: The greatest communications event in history", on Medium. Breathtakingly frightening. This guy, a Brit I think, is amazingly involved in fomenting "revolution" via social media and is on all major platforms selling this and QANON to the masses. I won't link to that essay or any of his screed. It, and he, are disturbing. He sees himself as a great humanist philosopher teaching people to separate themselves from a technocratic society. His followers are Trumpists and people with like mindsets from other nations. It is not clear to me where he lives.

This is part of what we are up against to reclaim our democracy. Cultish armchair warriors, some with stockpiles of weapons, waiting for an excuse to use them. Sometimes they show up here and out themselves by blurting their extremist jargon. Vigilance to protect this world and our nation for our children is essential. The 2016 campaign season and election was a dress rehearsal for this dark coalition.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
15. SPLC's annual count of hate groups shows fourth straight year of growth
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 12:18 PM
Mar 2019

Annual count of hate groups shows fourth straight year of growth that coincides with President Trump's campaign & presidency

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/02/19/hate-groups-reach-record-high

The number of hate groups operating across America rose to a record high – 1,020 – in 2018 as President Trump continued to fan the flames of white resentment over immigration and the country’s changing demographics.

It was the fourth straight year of hate group growth – a 30 percent increase roughly coinciding with Trump’s campaign and presidency – following three consecutive years of decline near the end of the Obama administration.



At the same time, racist and antisemitic violence continued to plague the country, following the same escalating pattern as hate groups. FBI statistics show that hate crimes increased by 30 percent in the three-year period ending in 2017. (The FBI has not released figures for 2018.) The increase followed a three-year period in which hate crime incidents fell by about 12 percent.

The SPLC’s annual hate group count and analysis is contained in the Spring edition of the Intelligence Report, released today.

The SPLC today also launched an updated, interactive hate map showing the locations of hate groups nationwide.

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