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Americans' mixed message for 2020 presidential candidates: Keep your socialist hands off our government programs
Americans have a clear message for 2020 presidential candidates, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll: keep your socialist hands off our government programs.
As a philosophical label, socialism fares dismally alongside capitalism in public sentiment.
As a practical matter, however, average Americans who have long suffered from slow-growing wages want more help from their representatives in Washington.
John Harwood | @johnjharwood
Published 21 Hours Ago Updated 7 Hours Ago CNBC.com
Twenty months before Election Day, Americans have a clear message for 2020 presidential candidates: keep your socialist hands off our government programs.
That paradoxical verdict emerges from the new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. And it underscores the challenges facing both President Donald Trump and his Democratic adversaries.
As a philosophical label, socialism fares dismally alongside capitalism in public sentiment. Just 18 percent of Americans react positively to the mention of socialism, while 50 percent react negatively. Capitalism draws almost exactly the inverse reaction: 50 percent positive and 19 percent negative.
Those contrasting views explain why President Trump and fellow Republicans seek to slap that label on Democrats across the board. They also explain why most Democratic presidential candidates, apart from the self-styled Democratic socialist Bernie Sanders, reject the label and call themselves capitalists.
As a practical matter, however, average Americans who have long suffered from slow-growing wages want more help from their representatives in Washington. So the poll shows that a 55-percent majority says government should do more to solve problems and meet their needs, compared to 41 percent who say government is doing too many things already. Americans have expressed a desire for more government help by double-digit margins throughout Trump's presidency.
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babylonsister
Mar 2019
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Aren't almost all government programs socialist programs by their definition?
LonePirate
Mar 2019
#1
Somewhere, there's a pic of some old woman carrying a protest sign during PBO's administration:
Aristus
Mar 2019
#4
The plausibility of the Photoshopped pic derives from the utter blockheadedness of the subjects
Aristus
Mar 2019
#7
No. That's incorrect. It does seem to be the false meme of the moment. But wrong.
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#6
LonePirate
(13,414 posts)1. Aren't almost all government programs socialist programs by their definition?
babylonsister
(171,054 posts)2. Yes, that's why it's so ironically funny. nt
Aristus
(66,310 posts)4. Somewhere, there's a pic of some old woman carrying a protest sign during PBO's administration:
"I don't want government health care! And keep your hands off my Medicare!"
Don't ask......
It gives me a headache just trying to think down to that level...
Celerity
(43,281 posts)5. one of the most famous on turned out to be a photoshopped fake
photoshopped version from (this one was posted in 2011)
https://americajones.blogspot.com/2011/12/informed-rational-debate-is-cornerstone.html
original version from 2009
https://web.archive.org/web/20131111093621/http://www.rwnj.org/2009/03/15/cincinnati-tea-party-pictures/img_1055/
not sure about others
some probably were real as RW'ers REALLY are that stupid
Aristus
(66,310 posts)7. The plausibility of the Photoshopped pic derives from the utter blockheadedness of the subjects
One is capable of believing any level of gutter stupidity from these people...
CrossingTheRubicon
(731 posts)6. No. That's incorrect. It does seem to be the false meme of the moment. But wrong.
Autumn
(45,042 posts)8. One would think so. But the "experts" here say no.
malaise
(268,885 posts)3. Ignorance is really bliss
The government programs are socialist