Is Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal a legitimate news and/or polling source?

[redstateblues]

After the latest NBC/WSJ poll, I'm having my doubts. Dump's approval was 4 points higher points on WSJ/NBCs than 538s. After all of Trump's fake winning lately it doesn't seem likely.

[kimbutgar]

1. Looks like they did this positive poll to keep the orange maggot from becoming more unhinged

His ego is deflated and his handlers know he needs something to pump him up. So they can survive themselves.

[onecaliberal]

2. No. Just another dump mouthpiece.

[TwilightZone]

3. Margin of error

It's likely just a statistical blip.

I'll worry about it more if it proves to be the start of a trend. As an isolated event, I'd ignore it.

[emulatorloo]

4. NBC is a legit news and polling source. WSJ news division has broken some Trump/Russia stories

And Trump corruption/criminality stories.

Here a couple, there have definitely been others:

GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to Flynn
Peter W. Smith portrayed the former general as an ally in an effort, independent of the Trump campaign, to find personal emails deleted by Hillary Clinton
By Shane Harris
June 29, 2017 5:14 p.m. ET
https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-operative-sought-clinton-emails-from-hackers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851

Re hush money

Donald Trump Played Central Role in Hush Payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal
Federal prosecutors have gathered evidence of president’s participation in transactions that violated campaign-finance laws
By Joe Palazzolo, Nicole Hong, Michael Rothfeld, Rebecca Davis O’Brien and Rebecca Ballhaus
Nov. 9, 2018 1:03 p.m. ET
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-played-central-role-in-hush-payoffs-to-stormy-daniels-and-karen-mcdougal-1541786601?mod=hp_lead_pos1

[Cicada]

5. Look at pollster ratings at 538 dot com. They are legit but one poll is just one poll

The margin of error on one poll is plus or minus three, typically. That’s just if there is only sampling variation. But there are many other sources of error. So a single poll is highly iffy. Much more accurate is the average of many polls. Go to 538 dot com, or real clear politics, or other places for averages. But the Wall Street journal polls are run by rock solid pollsters. Peter ahart is one, a leading democrat pollster. But relax. Trump rating has been stable. He got hit hard by the government shut down so now it’s back to normal 42 approve, 53 disapprove.

[elleng]

6. Legitimate for news,

not for polling or opinion.

[TwilightZone]

8. I think the opposite might be true.

WSJ can be questionable as a source, particularly anything involving political analysis. The Murdoch influence tends to seep in.

As a poll, the WSJ/NBC poll rates an A- on 538.

[elleng]

10. IMO Analysis 'opinion.'

[emulatorloo]

9. I doubt NBC would partner with them if they fudged polls

Agree news division has broken important stories on Trump corruption and Russia/Trump. Maddow has had some of their reporters on they seem solid

[TwilightZone]

7. 538 rates it an A- as a poll

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Their news division is good and pretty neutral.

The editorial page is very right-wing. Don't know about their polls.

[still_one]

12. As a news source, the WSJ generally is. Definitely NOT their editoral page, and as far as their

polls, you need to see how they are rated. Nate Silver does a pretty good analysis of that

Fox new on the other had is NOT a reliable news source

[PoliticAverse]

13. 4 points is easily within the margin of error for such things. n/t