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bluestarone

(16,912 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:54 AM Mar 2019

Someone got an answer? Thought i heard this on MSNBC this AM.

That Mueller has most of the documents that the house is asking for from the group of 81? Not sure if i heard this right. That if these people refuse to hand them over, The house COULD ask Mueller for them? Just curious. TY in advance.

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Someone got an answer? Thought i heard this on MSNBC this AM. (Original Post) bluestarone Mar 2019 OP
Chairman Nadler said so on Rachel last night... Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #1
TY Then who would stop the sharing? bluestarone Mar 2019 #2
Well, if there are laws or rules about it, Mueller will follow them... Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #3
Yes. And am I grateful these days for every single Republican Hortensis Mar 2019 #4
Yes i did hear this and soo HAPPY we have the House! bluestarone Mar 2019 #5
Barr is in the executive branch, though supposed to be Hortensis Mar 2019 #6
My understanding of this was that gibraltar72 Mar 2019 #7

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
1. Chairman Nadler said so on Rachel last night...
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:57 AM
Mar 2019

Basically everything he's requesting has already been given to other investigations, so there should be no need for subpoenas.

The problem is that there are laws about materials in evidence being shared with other entities, so Mueller may not be able to "share" what he knows before he issues his report.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Yes. And am I grateful these days for every single Republican
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:19 PM
Mar 2019

who fights as we do to protect our principle-based systems and procedures from those trying to destroy them. Mr. Mueller's so obviously not part of what the Republican Party has been taken over by and proof, for those who need it, that to be conservative, at least moderately, and also honorable and committed to democracy are not mutually exclusive.

Some observers believe that as Trump's fought to close it down court filings have been used by the Mueller investigation to get some information beyond DoJ control; whether that motive is the case...?

Bluestarone, Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff have either or both said their committees could/would subpoena the Mueller report, Mueller himself, and the documents held by the Mueller investigation. Then another (continuation of) constitutional crisis when refused or pretend-complied with?

bluestarone

(16,912 posts)
5. Yes i did hear this and soo HAPPY we have the House!
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:28 PM
Mar 2019

My concern is if Barr (RUMP)could Put the Kibosh to the House subpeonas. (hoping no way) I have complete faith in Nancy and the house committees. TY for your response!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Barr is in the executive branch, though supposed to be
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 12:41 PM
Mar 2019

independent, so he has no control over activities of house committees.

Easy to forget it's supposed to be this way when congressional Republicans betray their constitutional duty of check to check the executive, and the AG acts like Trump's and the religious right's attorney instead of The People's.

For them to refuse to comply with congressional subpoenas should be completely out of the question.

From Jane Mayer's new article on Fox:

According to Media Matters, in the first year after Mueller was appointed Hannity alone aired four hundred and eighty-six segments attacking the federal criminal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election; thirty-eight per cent of those segments claimed that law-enforcement officials had broken the law. In recent weeks, Hannity has spoken of “a coup,” and a guest on Laura Ingraham’s program, the lawyer Joseph diGenova, declared, “It’s going to be total war. And, as I say to my friends, I do two things—I vote and I buy guns.”

Jerry Taylor, the co-founder of the Niskanen Center, a think tank in Washington for moderates, says, “In a hypothetical world without Fox News, if President Trump were to be hit hard by the Mueller report, it would be the end of him. But, with Fox News covering his back with the Republican base, he has a fighting chance, because he has something no other President in American history has ever had at his disposal—a servile propaganda operation.”


A poll out yesterday or so said Trump's approval rate on the right was 88%.

gibraltar72

(7,503 posts)
7. My understanding of this was that
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 01:28 PM
Mar 2019

because other agencies have already been provided documents they couldn't claim privilege. This was just a starting point and would get documents flowing quickly.

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