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Can Chumpy really prevent release of high school and college records, even if they are subpoened? (Original Post) MoonRiver Mar 2019 OP
Why would we want to subpoena leftynyc Mar 2019 #1
Would help to prove he's a pathological liar, for one. MoonRiver Mar 2019 #3
Plenty of other evidence of that. Merlot Mar 2019 #5
Why would they be subpoenaed? irresistable Mar 2019 #2
First off, any unauthorized release is illegal jberryhill Mar 2019 #4
Lord, who gives a shit about his grades? WTF would it prove that we don't already know? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #6
Can they supoena greymattermom Mar 2019 #7
It has been a long time since anyone wanted to see my MineralMan Mar 2019 #8
This is what I see: direct relevance to litigation, maybe. Otherwise, no. Girard442 Mar 2019 #9
That is why I think this paper storm exboyfil Mar 2019 #12
30+ years in Fed service, still have to provide copy of Uni transcript for jobs bigbrother05 Mar 2019 #14
OK. I stopped working for other people in 1974, so MineralMan Mar 2019 #16
+1 2naSalit Mar 2019 #19
They could use it to show the patterns duforsure Mar 2019 #10
The records aren't relevant exboyfil Mar 2019 #13
This is from the ACLU nykym Mar 2019 #11
I would wonder if there is a time limit as to how long grades are kept? Probably forever, since... SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #15
O'Donnell pointed out that top students are always DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #17
Any subpoena of his school records would be quashed because they are not relevant to an inquiry. Shrike47 Mar 2019 #18
yes, I think so--they are confidential. Also, what possible reason would there be for a subpoena? shanny Mar 2019 #20
Just knowing he fought to have them concealed says it all. 33taw Mar 2019 #21
We Don't Need to See Transcripts to Know Trump Was a Very Poor Student dlk Mar 2019 #22
I can't imagine anyone issuing a subpoena for them. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #23
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
1. Why would we want to subpoena
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:34 AM
Mar 2019

school records? That sounds like a waste and something only done to embarrass him.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. First off, any unauthorized release is illegal
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:36 AM
Mar 2019

Secondly, I cannot imagine a scenario in which they would be subject to a legitimate subpoena.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
7. Can they supoena
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:43 AM
Mar 2019

a scale? How about having him stand in a room with lines on the wall with height marked on them? He is a person who lies about his height.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
8. It has been a long time since anyone wanted to see my
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:44 AM
Mar 2019

transcripts from high school and college. The only times I remember were when I was applying for a job, and that only a couple of times. Each time, I had to sign a release for them to be sent.

I'm not sure I can imagine a scenario where a subpoena would be issued for such records in the case of an elected official. I can't see how they would be relevant, since an election was held and that official was elected. Unless there is some sort of educational requirement in the qualifications for the position, those records would not be pertinent to anything, as far as i can see.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
12. That is why I think this paper storm
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:53 AM
Mar 2019

is full of risk. The Democrats need a strategy and a case needs to be made publicly for the records they request. It is in the public interest that we know x because we suspect y based upon the following evidence.

Other than pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump, the school records are meaningless. Also no reputable educational organization should be releasing records without authorization. I wish the institutions had received the letters during the election had made the paranoid letters public at the time, and reinforced that they would never release records without the proper authorization.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
14. 30+ years in Fed service, still have to provide copy of Uni transcript for jobs
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:55 AM
Mar 2019

If the job has Engineer in the title, have to provide the transcript as evidence that I have a recognized degree.

Related to the position requirements, but have never had a position that didn't include engineer in the title and have provided a copy for each application.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. They could use it to show the patterns
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:50 AM
Mar 2019

He uses to lie and use his powers to threaten others with it, like they said he did using Cohen to get that done.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
13. The records aren't relevant
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:54 AM
Mar 2019

The letters requesting that the records not be released are relevant, but mostly at the time they were sent.

nykym

(3,063 posts)
11. This is from the ACLU
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:51 AM
Mar 2019

Thanks to the 1974 Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (known as the Buckley amendment), schools that receive any federal funding must make student records available for viewing by parents and the students themselves if they are 18 or older. (When I say "parent" I of course also mean legal guardian.) In some states the age is less than 18: in Delaware, it's 14, and in Massachusetts it's 14, or ninth grade.

However, there is some information students can't access at all, such as psychiatric reports and other non-educational records possessed by a counselor, doctor, social worker or the like. Your parents can see these files, though.

More at Link:
https://www.aclu.org/other/your-right-keep-your-school-records-private

SWBTATTReg

(22,097 posts)
15. I would wonder if there is a time limit as to how long grades are kept? Probably forever, since...
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:56 AM
Mar 2019

records need to be kept of when one went to a particular school, etc.

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
17. O'Donnell pointed out that top students are always
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:03 PM
Mar 2019

publicly recognized via Honor Roll lists, National Honor Society programs, top student lists, etc, in high school and honor role, magna/summa/cum laude graduation honors, Phi Beta Kappa keys and so on.

Trump appears on none of those lists or as a member of any of the honor fraternaties and has never even made claim to any, so it's easy to know he was an average student at best.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
18. Any subpoena of his school records would be quashed because they are not relevant to an inquiry.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:04 PM
Mar 2019

We want to demonstrate his lies but that’s not a legitimate subject of Congressional oversight.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
20. yes, I think so--they are confidential. Also, what possible reason would there be for a subpoena?
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:12 PM
Mar 2019

(which makes one wonder why he would threaten anyone to keep them secret). More importantly, why would we care about them?

Tax returns and business practices are another story.

33taw

(2,439 posts)
21. Just knowing he fought to have them concealed says it all.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:18 PM
Mar 2019

I think there a much bigger issues than this.

dlk

(11,538 posts)
22. We Don't Need to See Transcripts to Know Trump Was a Very Poor Student
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:30 PM
Mar 2019

He shows us every day with his abysmal behavior in the Oval Office.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
23. I can't imagine anyone issuing a subpoena for them.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:32 PM
Mar 2019

I don't see what the point would be.

He shouldn't have to prevent their release. They shouldn't be released without his consent.

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