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Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:31 AM

Can Chumpy really prevent release of high school and college records, even if they are subpoened?

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Reply Can Chumpy really prevent release of high school and college records, even if they are subpoened? (Original post)
MoonRiver Mar 2019 OP
leftynyc Mar 2019 #1
MoonRiver Mar 2019 #3
Merlot Mar 2019 #5
irresistable Mar 2019 #2
jberryhill Mar 2019 #4
WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #6
greymattermom Mar 2019 #7
MineralMan Mar 2019 #8
Girard442 Mar 2019 #9
exboyfil Mar 2019 #12
bigbrother05 Mar 2019 #14
MineralMan Mar 2019 #16
2naSalit Mar 2019 #19
duforsure Mar 2019 #10
exboyfil Mar 2019 #13
nykym Mar 2019 #11
SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #15
DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #17
Shrike47 Mar 2019 #18
shanny Mar 2019 #20
33taw Mar 2019 #21
dlk Mar 2019 #22
WeekiWater Mar 2019 #23

Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:34 AM

1. Why would we want to subpoena

 

school records? That sounds like a waste and something only done to embarrass him.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:36 AM

3. Would help to prove he's a pathological liar, for one.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:38 AM

5. Plenty of other evidence of that.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:35 AM

2. Why would they be subpoenaed?

 

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:36 AM

4. First off, any unauthorized release is illegal

 


Secondly, I cannot imagine a scenario in which they would be subject to a legitimate subpoena.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:39 AM

6. Lord, who gives a shit about his grades? WTF would it prove that we don't already know?

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:43 AM

7. Can they supoena

a scale? How about having him stand in a room with lines on the wall with height marked on them? He is a person who lies about his height.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:44 AM

8. It has been a long time since anyone wanted to see my

transcripts from high school and college. The only times I remember were when I was applying for a job, and that only a couple of times. Each time, I had to sign a release for them to be sent.

I'm not sure I can imagine a scenario where a subpoena would be issued for such records in the case of an elected official. I can't see how they would be relevant, since an election was held and that official was elected. Unless there is some sort of educational requirement in the qualifications for the position, those records would not be pertinent to anything, as far as i can see.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:48 AM

9. This is what I see: direct relevance to litigation, maybe. Otherwise, no.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:53 AM

12. That is why I think this paper storm

is full of risk. The Democrats need a strategy and a case needs to be made publicly for the records they request. It is in the public interest that we know x because we suspect y based upon the following evidence.

Other than pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump, the school records are meaningless. Also no reputable educational organization should be releasing records without authorization. I wish the institutions had received the letters during the election had made the paranoid letters public at the time, and reinforced that they would never release records without the proper authorization.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:55 AM

14. 30+ years in Fed service, still have to provide copy of Uni transcript for jobs

If the job has Engineer in the title, have to provide the transcript as evidence that I have a recognized degree.

Related to the position requirements, but have never had a position that didn't include engineer in the title and have provided a copy for each application.

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Response to bigbrother05 (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:58 AM

16. OK. I stopped working for other people in 1974, so

I'm a little out of touch with such requirements.

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Response to bigbrother05 (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:07 PM

19. +1

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:50 AM

10. They could use it to show the patterns

He uses to lie and use his powers to threaten others with it, like they said he did using Cohen to get that done.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:54 AM

13. The records aren't relevant

The letters requesting that the records not be released are relevant, but mostly at the time they were sent.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:51 AM

11. This is from the ACLU

Thanks to the 1974 Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (known as the Buckley amendment), schools that receive any federal funding must make student records available for viewing by parents and the students themselves if they are 18 or older. (When I say "parent" I of course also mean legal guardian.) In some states the age is less than 18: in Delaware, it's 14, and in Massachusetts it's 14, or ninth grade.

However, there is some information students can't access at all, such as psychiatric reports and other non-educational records possessed by a counselor, doctor, social worker or the like. Your parents can see these files, though.

More at Link:
https://www.aclu.org/other/your-right-keep-your-school-records-private

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:56 AM

15. I would wonder if there is a time limit as to how long grades are kept? Probably forever, since...

records need to be kept of when one went to a particular school, etc.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:03 PM

17. O'Donnell pointed out that top students are always

publicly recognized via Honor Roll lists, National Honor Society programs, top student lists, etc, in high school and honor role, magna/summa/cum laude graduation honors, Phi Beta Kappa keys and so on.

Trump appears on none of those lists or as a member of any of the honor fraternaties and has never even made claim to any, so it's easy to know he was an average student at best.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:04 PM

18. Any subpoena of his school records would be quashed because they are not relevant to an inquiry.

We want to demonstrate his lies but thatís not a legitimate subject of Congressional oversight.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:12 PM

20. yes, I think so--they are confidential. Also, what possible reason would there be for a subpoena?

 

(which makes one wonder why he would threaten anyone to keep them secret). More importantly, why would we care about them?

Tax returns and business practices are another story.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:18 PM

21. Just knowing he fought to have them concealed says it all.

I think there a much bigger issues than this.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:30 PM

22. We Don't Need to See Transcripts to Know Trump Was a Very Poor Student

He shows us every day with his abysmal behavior in the Oval Office.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:32 PM

23. I can't imagine anyone issuing a subpoena for them.

 

I don't see what the point would be.

He shouldn't have to prevent their release. They shouldn't be released without his consent.

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