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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 10:27 PM Mar 2019

"Idiots," "Anarchists," and "Assholes": John Boehner Unloads on Republicans

Last edited Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:42 PM - Edit history (1)

(I just realized that this article is from October 30, 2017--but it just showed up this evening in one of my news feeds. My apologies.)

From Vanity Fair: “Idiots,” “Anarchists,” and “Assholes”: John Boehner Unloads on Republicans in Post-Retirement Interview

In 2015, then-Republican House Speaker John Boehner announced that he was retiring from Congress in the middle of his term, surrendering his position as the third-most-powerful politician in America to Paul Ryan and high-tailing it back to Ohio to smoke cigarettes and play golf. At the time, Boehner's abrupt resignation seemed like an acknowledgement that he’d failed as Speaker, unable to corral a growing ultra-conservative insurgency in his caucus. In retrospect, though, it appears he dodged the biggest bullet in American history: Donald Trump. With Ryan struggling to stay in step with the president, and the Republican-held government scrambling to pass any sort of meaningful legislation, Boehner's time as speaker seems downright tranquil in comparison.

Despite his remove, Boehner has been following Trump's ascendance with a critical eye. “Everything else he’s done (in office) has been a complete disaster,” the former Speaker told the Associated Press over the summer. “He’s still learning how to be president.” And as Politico discovered in a long-form interview with Boehner, the Ohio Republican is still haunted by the idea that he paved the way for Trump's takeover of the G.O.P. That idea may have some merit—he was, after all, part of the party's first wave of outsider populism when he was elected in 1994—but in over 18 hours of conversation with Politico’s Tim Alberta, Boehner, now golfing frequently and ironing his underwear in peace, opened up about his frustration with today's Republican party:


On Trump's impact:

When I ask Boehner whether the Republican Party can survive this, he cuts me off. “There is no Rep—.” He stops himself. “You were about to say, ‘There is no Republican Party,’” I tell him. He shrugs. “There is. But what does it even mean? Donald Trump’s not a Republican. He’s not a Democrat. He’s a populist. He doesn’t have an ideological bone in his body.” So who, I ask, is the leader of the party? “There is nobody,” he says.

On Ryan's legislative prowess

“So I get a text from 43 about a month ago, maybe six weeks ago.” Boehner’s close friend Ed, who joined our nightcap, interjects: “Off the record?” Boehner waves him off: “It doesn’t matter.” He lets out a thick cough, smoke escaping his mouth, and continues. “So 43 says, ‘Hey, are you talking to Ryan? Are you giving him advice?’ I said, ‘Yeah, if he calls I give him advice.’” Boehner takes a long, satisfied drag. “And he texts me back: ‘He needs to call you more.’”

On the House Freedom Caucus, whose members at times have stubbornly resisted the G.O.P.'s legislative agenda:

“They can’t tell you what they’re for. They can tell you everything they’re against. They’re anarchists. They want total chaos. Tear it all down and start over. That’s where their mindset is.”

On Freedom Caucus co-founder Rep. Mark Meadows:

“He’s an idiot. I can’t tell you what makes him tick.”

On Freedom Caucus co-founder Rep. Jim Jordan:

“Jordan was a terrorist as a legislator going back to his days in the Ohio House and Senate … A terrorist. A legislative terrorist.”

On former House Oversight Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz:

Boehner’s beef with Chaffetz, who would later join Fox News as a paid contributor, is not personal—just that he’s a “total phony” who possessed legislative talent but focused mostly on self-promotion. “With Chaffetz,” Boehner says, “it’s always about Chaffetz.”

On Jordan and Chaffetz, combined:

“Fuck Jordan. Fuck Chaffetz. They’re both assholes.”

On Trey Gowdy, current House Oversight Committee chairman:

“Gowdy — that’s my guy, even though he doesn’t know how to dress.”

On who's to blame for today's deep partisan divide:

“People thought in ’09, ’10, ’11, that the country couldn’t be divided more. And you go back to Obama’s campaign in 2008, you know, he was talking about the divide and healing the country and all of that. And some would argue on the right that he did more to divide the country than to unite it. I kind of reject that notion.” Why is that? “Because it wasn’t him!” Boehner replies. “It was modern-day media, and social media, that kept pushing people further right and further left. People started to figure out … they could choose where to get their news. And so what do people do? They choose places they agree with, reinforcing the divide.”

On said modern-day media:

“I always liked Rush [Limbaugh]. When I went to Palm Beach I would always meet with Rush and we’d go play golf. But you know, who was that right-wing guy, [Mark] Levin? He went really crazy right and got a big audience, and he dragged [Sean] Hannity to the dark side. He dragged Rush to the dark side. And these guys—I used to talk to them all the time. And suddenly they’re beating the living shit out of me.” Boehner, seated in his favorite recliner, lights another cigarette. “I had a conversation with Hannity, probably about the beginning of 2015. I called him and said, ‘Listen, you’re nuts.’ We had this really blunt conversation. Things were better for a few months, and then it got back to being the same-old, same-old. Because I wasn’t going to be a right-wing idiot.”
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"Idiots," "Anarchists," and "Assholes": John Boehner Unloads on Republicans (Original Post) Julian Englis Mar 2019 OP
FUCK.HIM. He needs to shut the fuck up forever. 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2019 #1
Exactly, Asshole Boehner watoos Mar 2019 #18
Right?!? WHERE was this when he was goddamn SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE??? Volaris Mar 2019 #23
Who knew. C_U_L8R Mar 2019 #2
It won't make a difference. That's why he got out. marylandblue Mar 2019 #4
The Republican Party is full of "leaders" who only know how to follow the script unblock Mar 2019 #7
He's correct about some of his assessments. calimary Mar 2019 #22
For real, John? Glass houses, and all that. Aristus Mar 2019 #3
Wait, people actually iron underwear? unblock Mar 2019 #5
No shit 2naSalit Mar 2019 #14
This article is from 2017. Wonder what he thinks now? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #6
Stuff like this helps SCantiGOP Mar 2019 #16
I disagree with Boehner on just about everything, but he really nailed Jordan, Meadows & Chaffetz. catbyte Mar 2019 #8
Call me crazy but... RightiswrongTn Mar 2019 #9
how long till Trump tweets? IcyPeas Mar 2019 #10
How far we've gone........ MyOwnPeace Mar 2019 #11
Hannity and Limbaugh were never *not* on the dark side. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #12
Alternate article title-The House that John Built: Speaker Boehner Pulls "I don't know her." on GOP DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #13
Now that you've left this huge, stinking mess gratuitous Mar 2019 #15
Fuckface needs to look in the mirror. Iggo Mar 2019 #17
Ok...so he admits its a mess and he contributed to it. Xolodno Mar 2019 #19
"Toady," "Thug," "Drunky McPukeShoes": Rocktivity Unloads on Boehner rocktivity Mar 2019 #20
I don't remember seeing this article PatSeg Mar 2019 #21
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
18. Exactly, Asshole Boehner
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:48 PM
Mar 2019

didn't have the guts to bring the comprehensive immigration bill that had passed the Senate up for a vote in the House. He was afraid of the people he is calling idiots and assholes.

C_U_L8R

(44,992 posts)
2. Who knew.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 10:37 PM
Mar 2019

I actually respect something John Boehner said. I hope this spreads amongst the Republican faithful.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
7. The Republican Party is full of "leaders" who only know how to follow the script
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:04 PM
Mar 2019

They know damn well it's a lie, a con job, an act, and sometimes, off the record, they'll happily admit it. But they'll also tell you they can't possibly deviate from the script.

They can come clean when they retire or give up. But it falls on deaf ears because while the other republican "leaders" also know they're finally speaking the truth, but they're similarly trapped in the script.

calimary

(81,127 posts)
22. He's correct about some of his assessments.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:02 AM
Mar 2019

Especially “idiot” Meadows and “terrorist” Jordan. Worthless shits. Chaffetz, Gowdy, the whole God forsaken lot of them.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
3. For real, John? Glass houses, and all that.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 10:38 PM
Mar 2019

10 out of 10 for your friendship with PBO, but anyone who can refer to Trey Gowdy as 'my guy', is an asshole himself.

SCantiGOP

(13,866 posts)
16. Stuff like this helps
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:31 PM
Mar 2019

Cult members need to know that they can leave, and high profile people they knew can show them the way.
Either that or he’s been stealing from the company store ( he now lobbys for legal weed ).


MyOwnPeace

(16,920 posts)
11. How far we've gone........
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:09 PM
Mar 2019

I used to hate the guy - I called him John Boner! And I hated #43 also, yeah, "W" was terrible, or so I thought.

And then..................

Boehner has an easy time blaming others because of where it has all gone, but he does not escape blame. His style and direction of leadership helped get us to where we are now. He, along with McTurtle, spent all of PRESIDENT OBAMA'S administration fighting any initiative the president proposed. Their "anti-Obama" policies became a model of government leadership that has grown into the disaster that we have now.
The "people" don't count - only "big business" and $$$$$$$ matter.

Sorry, John, you do not get a pass for that which you helped build.

TwilightZone

(25,429 posts)
12. Hannity and Limbaugh were never *not* on the dark side.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:14 PM
Mar 2019

And you helped enable all of this bullshit, John. You created the monster and then you couldn't control it.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
13. Alternate article title-The House that John Built: Speaker Boehner Pulls "I don't know her." on GOP
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:15 PM
Mar 2019

Fuck right off, boner.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. Now that you've left this huge, stinking mess
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:23 PM
Mar 2019

Democrats are here to clean it up. Again. And you get to retreat back into your carelessness. Or your privilege. Or whatever it is that sustains you and absolves you of all responsibility for what you left behind.

I will experience a feeling of grim satisfaction upon reading your obituary, you blood-gargling psychopath.

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
19. Ok...so he admits its a mess and he contributed to it.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 11:58 PM
Mar 2019

He should have a gave an outgoing speech highlighting that....

...but it probably wouldn't have done any good. But hey, lets take it.

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
20. "Toady," "Thug," "Drunky McPukeShoes": Rocktivity Unloads on Boehner
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:07 AM
Mar 2019

To quote an old friend of his, who cares what he thinks?

And it seems like it was only yesterday when he and Nancy Pelosi first met




rocktivity

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
21. I don't remember seeing this article
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 12:08 AM
Mar 2019

Thanks for posting it. I'm sure he said what a lot of retired republicans are thinking.

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