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(I just realized that this article is from October 30, 2017--but it just showed up this evening in one of my news feeds. My apologies.)
From Vanity Fair: Idiots, Anarchists, and Assholes: John Boehner Unloads on Republicans in Post-Retirement Interview
Despite his remove, Boehner has been following Trump's ascendance with a critical eye. Everything else hes done (in office) has been a complete disaster, the former Speaker told the Associated Press over the summer. Hes still learning how to be president. And as Politico discovered in a long-form interview with Boehner, the Ohio Republican is still haunted by the idea that he paved the way for Trump's takeover of the G.O.P. That idea may have some merithe was, after all, part of the party's first wave of outsider populism when he was elected in 1994but in over 18 hours of conversation with Politicos Tim Alberta, Boehner, now golfing frequently and ironing his underwear in peace, opened up about his frustration with today's Republican party:
On Trump's impact:
When I ask Boehner whether the Republican Party can survive this, he cuts me off. There is no Rep. He stops himself. You were about to say, There is no Republican Party, I tell him. He shrugs. There is. But what does it even mean? Donald Trumps not a Republican. Hes not a Democrat. Hes a populist. He doesnt have an ideological bone in his body. So who, I ask, is the leader of the party? There is nobody, he says.
On Ryan's legislative prowess
So I get a text from 43 about a month ago, maybe six weeks ago. Boehners close friend Ed, who joined our nightcap, interjects: Off the record? Boehner waves him off: It doesnt matter. He lets out a thick cough, smoke escaping his mouth, and continues. So 43 says, Hey, are you talking to Ryan? Are you giving him advice? I said, Yeah, if he calls I give him advice. Boehner takes a long, satisfied drag. And he texts me back: He needs to call you more.
On the House Freedom Caucus, whose members at times have stubbornly resisted the G.O.P.'s legislative agenda:
They cant tell you what theyre for. They can tell you everything theyre against. Theyre anarchists. They want total chaos. Tear it all down and start over. Thats where their mindset is.
On Freedom Caucus co-founder Rep. Mark Meadows:
Hes an idiot. I cant tell you what makes him tick.
On Freedom Caucus co-founder Rep. Jim Jordan:
Jordan was a terrorist as a legislator going back to his days in the Ohio House and Senate A terrorist. A legislative terrorist.
On former House Oversight Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz:
Boehners beef with Chaffetz, who would later join Fox News as a paid contributor, is not personaljust that hes a total phony who possessed legislative talent but focused mostly on self-promotion. With Chaffetz, Boehner says, its always about Chaffetz.
On Jordan and Chaffetz, combined:
Fuck Jordan. Fuck Chaffetz. Theyre both assholes.
On Trey Gowdy, current House Oversight Committee chairman:
Gowdy thats my guy, even though he doesnt know how to dress.
On who's to blame for today's deep partisan divide:
People thought in 09, 10, 11, that the country couldnt be divided more. And you go back to Obamas campaign in 2008, you know, he was talking about the divide and healing the country and all of that. And some would argue on the right that he did more to divide the country than to unite it. I kind of reject that notion. Why is that? Because it wasnt him! Boehner replies. It was modern-day media, and social media, that kept pushing people further right and further left. People started to figure out they could choose where to get their news. And so what do people do? They choose places they agree with, reinforcing the divide.
On said modern-day media:
I always liked Rush [Limbaugh]. When I went to Palm Beach I would always meet with Rush and wed go play golf. But you know, who was that right-wing guy, [Mark] Levin? He went really crazy right and got a big audience, and he dragged [Sean] Hannity to the dark side. He dragged Rush to the dark side. And these guysI used to talk to them all the time. And suddenly theyre beating the living shit out of me. Boehner, seated in his favorite recliner, lights another cigarette. I had a conversation with Hannity, probably about the beginning of 2015. I called him and said, Listen, youre nuts. We had this really blunt conversation. Things were better for a few months, and then it got back to being the same-old, same-old. Because I wasnt going to be a right-wing idiot.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,928 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)didn't have the guts to bring the comprehensive immigration bill that had passed the Senate up for a vote in the House. He was afraid of the people he is calling idiots and assholes.
Volaris
(10,269 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,992 posts)I actually respect something John Boehner said. I hope this spreads amongst the Republican faithful.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Only retired Republican can speak the truth.
unblock
(52,126 posts)They know damn well it's a lie, a con job, an act, and sometimes, off the record, they'll happily admit it. But they'll also tell you they can't possibly deviate from the script.
They can come clean when they retire or give up. But it falls on deaf ears because while the other republican "leaders" also know they're finally speaking the truth, but they're similarly trapped in the script.
calimary
(81,127 posts)Especially idiot Meadows and terrorist Jordan. Worthless shits. Chaffetz, Gowdy, the whole God forsaken lot of them.
Aristus
(66,294 posts)10 out of 10 for your friendship with PBO, but anyone who can refer to Trey Gowdy as 'my guy', is an asshole himself.
unblock
(52,126 posts)thought that went out of style in the 1950s!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,610 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,866 posts)Cult members need to know that they can leave, and high profile people they knew can show them the way.
Either that or hes been stealing from the company store ( he now lobbys for legal weed ).
catbyte
(34,341 posts)RightiswrongTn
(92 posts)I kinda like the guy. Back in the good ole days, before GOP became Rico
IcyPeas
(21,842 posts)does he have a nick name for Boehner?
MyOwnPeace
(16,920 posts)I used to hate the guy - I called him John Boner! And I hated #43 also, yeah, "W" was terrible, or so I thought.
And then..................
Boehner has an easy time blaming others because of where it has all gone, but he does not escape blame. His style and direction of leadership helped get us to where we are now. He, along with McTurtle, spent all of PRESIDENT OBAMA'S administration fighting any initiative the president proposed. Their "anti-Obama" policies became a model of government leadership that has grown into the disaster that we have now.
The "people" don't count - only "big business" and $$$$$$$ matter.
Sorry, John, you do not get a pass for that which you helped build.
TwilightZone
(25,429 posts)And you helped enable all of this bullshit, John. You created the monster and then you couldn't control it.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Fuck right off, boner.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Democrats are here to clean it up. Again. And you get to retreat back into your carelessness. Or your privilege. Or whatever it is that sustains you and absolves you of all responsibility for what you left behind.
I will experience a feeling of grim satisfaction upon reading your obituary, you blood-gargling psychopath.
Iggo
(47,535 posts)Fuck hi.
Xolodno
(6,384 posts)He should have a gave an outgoing speech highlighting that....
...but it probably wouldn't have done any good. But hey, lets take it.
rocktivity
(44,572 posts)To quote an old friend of his, who cares what he thinks?
And it seems like it was only yesterday when he and Nancy Pelosi first met
rocktivity
PatSeg
(47,282 posts)Thanks for posting it. I'm sure he said what a lot of retired republicans are thinking.