They hate liberals more than Trump embarrasses them.

[Funtatlaguy]

This past weekend, was around some Trump supporters.
They talked about his lying, womanizing, bigotry, etc.
None liked him or respected him.
But they self identify as conservative Republicans.
And that “trumps” everything.
They said that having such a scoundrel is still infinitely preferable to electing Democrats who they see as anti capitalist, anti American, and anti God.

You can not reason with these Fox News, right wing radio brainwashed morons.

[beachbum bob]

1. never underestimate the hate of democrats and liberals and progressives, its easy to vilify, as the

uninformed, under educated rightwing masses gravitate to hate.

No amount of "information" can swing these people and need not waste time or effort on them. Its the 10% of those in the middle that wins elections. Democrats more often then not allow GOP to define who they are based on all the tried and true scare tactics. We still haven't learn how to avoid the "socialist" anchor around our necks. New adjectives need to be used to replace "socialism".

wrap in a flag and freedom.....it will work. Throw in some jesus stuff, it will work.

[Freddie]

3. Yes indeed

That’s why I don’t support Bernie. He’s just not going to appeal to the middle folks.

[Farmer-Rick]

14. Really you consider the right wing nut who loves Traitor Trump and hates all things progressive

as the middle? I would consider them the extreme.

Most of the middle didn't come out to vote for president last time around. I think the percentage of people who can vote that do vote is like 58%. I think if we appealed to that other 48%, and got them excited to come out and vote, we would win by a land slide. To hell with trying to appeal to RepubliCON extremists.

[Ligyron]

38. That's a very good point about the 48% non-voters.

But just who are these people? Are they like a cross-section of the general population politically? I doubt it but then I know of no study
identifying or even attempting to identify who these folks are or why they don't bother voting. I would hazard to guess we'd find that a good number of them are just too friggin' lazy to be bothered and more than a few would say some variation of "why bother, they're all the same." or "The whole thing is rigged anyway". We know that a lot of young people don't vote so there's fertile ground there.

It's the same percentage of people in every election cycle I can remember it seems like and the first step in wining them over would be to identify who exactly they are.

[Maggiemayhem]

42. The 14% per cent of illiterate Americans that simply can't read probably don't vote.

Then you have the Evangelicals who think Democrats are Satans spawn. I have heard them say with disgust that they will not vote for a Democrat. I checked out the Facebook pages of two local pastors and they are diehard Trump supporters with one even wearing a MAGA hat These churches may as well be PACAs because they preach right wing bullshit. Take away their tax free status.

[Funtatlaguy]

4. Fascism will come wrapped in the flag carrying a cross.

[Left-over]

13. They will be spouting nationalism and singing the national anthem while

having the dagger to kill democracy hid behind their backs.

[Arazi]

16. We need to get more young people to vote. That's how we win

They're almost universally strong Dems, and many embrace the "socialist" label do it's not a handicap

Focus on voter registration. Generate enthusiasm about a couple issues they truly care about (climate change, student debt, faster and more easily accessible wifi to name a few)

[beachbum bob]

22. its a difficult expectation at best. Not to derride younger voters, buts hard to overcome

limited life experiences as well as attention spans. Gotta comprehend the "big picture" of what is happening from a historical viewpoint. Not saying the under 25 voters lack the smarts, its understanding the trajectory of where we are heading on multiple fronts.

[Grasswire2]

31. emphasis on the union worker tradition can change that image

The Democratic Party should mount a PR campaign on the history of America's working class, emphasizing all the achievements of unions that truly built America and brought many of our protections.

Contrast that against the FAT CATS billionaires and soft corruption.

Reframe "Democrat" as tough, muscular, no-nonsense core of America.

GET RID of the coastalism and elitism and latte liberalism.

Use Harry Truman. Tough as nails. A winner. Not a soggy-bottomed golfing whiny baby.

Or lose again by portraying a soft, frothy party.

[UpInArms]

49. Welcome to DU

Hang around ... read lots of diverse thoughts and opinions ... let the facts of the world shape you ..

Never watch FAUX Snews ... it’s just crapspew ...

Let the light in and see where you grow

[UpInArms]

52. We are always happy to have the opportunity to gain new friends

If you haven’t read the terms of agreement for DU, you can do so here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

We are a pretty civil bunch ...

Long may you post

[Grasswire2]

53. Gee, I missed that one.

Must have been a real sweetie.

[UpInArms]

54. Thought he/she might need to understand the rules a bit

[Freddie]

2. Yup

The fervent need to “stick it to them libs” is the #1 priority by far.
They’re not ALL like that, and the somewhat less brainwashed are the ones we have to reach.

[snowybirdie]

5. Got into a FB argument

with a Rumpster lately. He actually said he didn't like me because I was always right! Guess he didn't like me proving that much of what they spout is nonsense and easily disprovable!

[beachbum bob]

6. rightwing agenda is being 100% met as they wanted the abilty to stack the federal courts, which is

100% on target. The ONLY way to survive this is a 67 seat democratic majority in the Senate and 51% in the house and the democrats ridding the all trump/GOP appointed judges thru impeachment process. IF the 2016 election is deemed an outcome by russia/putin, this is the ONLY mechanism we have.

democratic politicians rarily have the guts to do the thing most required and the impact of rightwing federal judges can have impact of DECADES to the point that what makes America, America may forever disappear.

[RAB910]

7. Here's a fact- Conservatives by their very nature are anti-American

Look at their long list of hates

They hate our government for the people, by the people and of the people

They hate our right to vote

They hate giving women control of their bodies

They hate minorities

They hate that are LGBT

They hate liberals

They hate Democrats

They hate socialists

They hate spending money on the people (only spend our tax dollars on the rich)

By the time you add up all their hate, they hate the vast majority of Americans and most of our American ideals

[Chin music]

27. +1

[FakeNoose]

37. Everything you say is true, but it's mostly racism

... or a combination of racism and misogyny. I'm guessing most were born into racist/misogynist families.
The rest is all brainwashing since childhood.

[pdsimdars]

8. There should be a list that everyone has of all the things libs got them that they take for granted

Like that 40 hour work week?
How about the weekend? You know people DIED to get you that.
Like that vacation?
Child labor, public schools . .. everything you now take for granted about your life that makes it better . . . . we did that.
Everything that makes their lives better was fought for by progressives.

[Grasswire2]

32. say "DEMOCRATS" not "progressives". Use the strong Dem tradition. Workers. Built America.

see my comment above.

[pdsimdars]

39. Well, Lawrence O'Donnell had a great segment on his show last week

He also played a segment from West Wing that he wrote. It was a debate scene. It was about that "liberal" term. He took that word, thrown at his feet, as the Republicans do, and raised it high and talked about what the "liberals" have given the country. The opponent said that Republicans ended slavery (I think there were a few things like that), and the Democrat said that yes, it was the "liberal" Republicans who did that and where are the liberals in the Republican party now? They have been shut out.
That is why I didn't use that name because liberal progress has passed from party to party now and then but it is "liberal" policy no matter what the party.

[littlemissmartypants]

9. The largest voting block is supposedly the self described independents.

Let's try to reach them first. I have a problem with repeatedly hitting my head against a brick wall.

[IronLionZion]

10. Hate for liberals has gotten downright dangerous in some cases

If any DUers have Trumpster-diving friends on social media, there is a lot of fake news and hostile memes being shared about how horrible liberals are. Demonizing people makes it easier to excuse atrocities and other bad stuff when it happens.

[NRaleighLiberal]

11. They are a completely brainwashed cult.

[FailureToCommunicate]

21. I have an elderly neighbor who listens to hate radio literally day and night. I actually

hear it in the summer when the window are open, so I know it's ALL night long. It gives her a steady dosage of venim, which keeps her in a zombie state of anger, bitterness and know-nothingness. I keep wondering how much happier and bighter the world (even in it's current fairly deplorable state) might seem to her than the views of hell that the RW radio hosts spew out.

[rickyhall]

12. I work with some otherwise nice people who only know Liberals are "Baby Killers!"

[watoos]

15. Yes, I live among them in central Pa.

They hate liberals, hate Democrats. They vote against Democrats, against baby killers. It's Democrats who take tax dollars from hard working Republicans. Democrats are lazy freeloaders. The owner of our local country store said to me last month, you didn't vote for Trump did you? She then said, there was no way that I could vote for Hillary. She never did say one good word about Trump.

[lancelyons]

17. That is the truth

They hate liberals more than anything. Many where talking Civil War before the 2016 election. It was so bad that teaming up with Russia to beat the Liberals is ok and not a crime. Its a worth endeavor.

How did it get this way. Watch Fox News in the evening. They constantly stoke hate. the Lazy Left, the evil Left, the terrible liberals, etc, etc,etc.

Its not stop on Fox news in the evening.

[mikehiggins]

18. How about "humane capitalism" as a slogan? Seems to me that's really what the Scandinavian nations

are all about.

And, after all, taxes will go up? Well, you get what you pay for is a tried and true US cliche. Will Medicare for All benefit the corporation's bottom line as well as making things better for all of us? Of course it will.

And don't be afraid to point out how insidious "corporate welfare" is.

[FiveGoodMen]

35. Sounds too much like kinder, gentler conservatism

[Botany]

19. Fox News is a cancer on my country

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211891439

[Initech]

33. Our problems are far worse than Fox News.

I'm sure this shit started with Limbaugh but it probably goes back even further than that. I'm not defending Fox News even slightly but if the GOP is a cult, we need to go after the head cult master.

[yaesu]

20. You will never change the minds of repugs, they want the Democratic party to be center right

just like their party used to be. This was tried & failed miserably. So its best just to write them off as a lost cause.

[Marthe48]

23. Of course trump's gang hates liberals

We are geared differently, have open minds, respect differences, embrace the things that we share in common with other humans. We have compassion, a sense of fair play, a desire to make the world better for everyone, not just one person, or one family, or one group. trump's horde therefore see us as the enemy, and a weak enemy at that. They are wrong about that as well.

[PJMcK]

24. That's okay

I hate "conservatives" more than Trump embarrasses me.

Trump won't be around forever. But his supporters will outlast him. They are the problem.

[FiveGoodMen]

36. "his supporters will outlast him. They are the problem"

Amen to that!!!

[aeromanKC]

25. Yep. But we already knew this.

[dalton99a]

34. Cut from the same cloth

[zipplewrath]

26. We aren't all that different

Just how bad of a president would a democrat have to be for any of us to vote for a republican?

[dlk]

28. Unfortunately, Many Trump Supporters Require Someone to Hate

It’s part of who they are.

[Baltimike]

29. I am FLUENT in redneck and this is unabashedly true.

Sadly true, but definitely true.

Facts don't matter to Trump chumps or else they wouldn't be Trump Chumps in the first pace.

[Initech]

30. It's a cult. No question.

And a very scary and dangerous one at that.

[Still In Wisconsin]

40. He hurts the people they hate.

Therefore, they love him. Messed up logic for messed up people.

[ancianita]

41. It's really about god's people v the godless people of the US. Look at the dozens of books that make

this case. Take a look at the Amazon dozens here, and read the thousands of comments.

https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Chaos-Candidate-American-Unraveling/dp/0998216402

You'd better believe they're out there in the millions and they believe they have a part to play in what they believe are the endtimes foretold in their bibles.

Every other religion will play its part, too, to bring about the apocalypse they envision.

I live in Chicago in summer weather, and in Florida in winter months, and I've never seen the churches so full in either place.

People are hunkering down for something awful.

It's not just what only 2 million Fox viewers are exposed to.

Believe that.

[Mc Mike]

45. They're shameless, hence incapable of embarrassment.

But they're very good at hating.