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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPelosi is exactly right!
At this moment yes, we can impeach him. Then what? He goes to the senate and doesn't even get his wrist slapped. And the tweets go on and on and on. See, I told you it was a witch hunt. Nothing changes! We want him removed. In the senate today... that won't happen.
There are things for the average Americans that need to be done. We can walk and chew gum. The hearings have started. They are public. The American people are hearing of the nasty, crooked, dirty and basically evil things he has done. Let the hearings go on.
Let the cuts in Medicare make the news. Let the cuts to farmers make the news. Every hearing one more nasty detail will come out.
The media chased shiny objects and put him in the white house with putins help. The media complains about the how they are treated. Do something about it. Stop with the 'oh, Pelosi won't impeach him'. That isn't the story. She has her eye on having him removed. The story today is his new budget. The story today is the WH refusing to allow the lawyers that filled out the ethics form go before a committee and answer one little question. Did tRUMP lie to you about the porn payments or did you lie to the American people.
Speaker Pelosi has my full support and my thanks.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
oldsoftie
(12,529 posts)To make a show and come out with nothing will make the Dems look like the GOP did after Clinton.
And push fence-sitters off to the idiots side
For what? A failed impeachment.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Blecht
(3,803 posts)I want the fucker out of office and in prison.
Impeachment could only get him out of office if the Senate will convict, which won't happen at this time. It may even help his reelection chances.
Pelosi is correct.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)Irishxs
(622 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,631 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)We can't handle him for another 2 years, and I still think he has a chance to win again.
donco
(1,548 posts)We need him blunder around till election time to remember what a fool he is... And to get out the vote.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)must be the call of the day. Under impeachment proceedings, these solo rendezvous w putin and kim absolutely should be estopped, until we figure out of he's trading deep intel. If we can't curtail his behavior and destruction to American Institutions, impeachment should go full steam. At this rate, we can drag out impeachment another year plus, and never let it get to the Senate for rolling back the impeachment process.
ffr
(22,668 posts)She probably knows better and I'm willing to trust her on this one.
Indykatie
(3,695 posts)dflprincess
(28,075 posts)Watch for his tweet proclaiming "I am too worth impeaching!"
2naSalit
(86,525 posts)that reverse psychology actually works on him. Just look at how he was so adamant about the shutdown earlier this year. He totally took the bait. That's how we need to deal with him on all things. He'll expose and incriminate himself.
oldsoftie
(12,529 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)She knows her stuff.
Raven
(13,888 posts)When public opinion and his own party turn against him. When public opinion (the sane people left in his base) begin to turn, the rats in the Republican leadership will take the walk from the Capitol to the White House. He will refuse to resign or demand conditions to his resignation that will be unacceptable, even to Republicans. He will then be impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate and he will get a military escort out of town. That is how I see this going down.
emulatorloo
(44,112 posts)Saving for later rant
Lotus54
(44 posts)There are, so far, 7,586,269 Americans who support Impeaching Trump.
Madam Speaker should be vigilant on her words.
https://www.needtoimpeach.com/
oldsoftie
(12,529 posts)Nancy Pelosi is where she is by knowing how and when to fight the battles.
Indykatie
(3,695 posts)I guarantee there are many millions more that agree with her decision on impeachment so let's not go there.
emulatorloo
(44,112 posts)Once they see the Mueller report that might change
We only have one shot at impeachment, it would fail now
Raine
(30,540 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Impeachment at this time won't go anywhere. The Turtle may not even let it come to the senate floor.
oldsoftie
(12,529 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)crud
(617 posts)They could do this over and over for his high crimes...'where by DJTrump violated the oath of office' 'abuse of power' etc. etc. we hereby call for his and his whole corrupt administration to immediately resign. It would serve notice that these are impeachable offenses, put it in the record, while still recognizing the reality of the senate. This would also make mitch and Senate repubs sweat having to defend that POS.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)All the "media" wants to say is how much in DISARRAY the "Democrat" party is now. Yes, I misspelled it intentionally.
They will never tell the truth, with rare exception.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Thats all they want from us, to consume all our time and energy on impeachement which will only energize their base. We need to win 2020 senate; if we lose presidency and trump wins, we can impeach him then. But we need him to continue shrinking GOP base and tuening suburbs solidly blue for generations to come.
Indykatie
(3,695 posts)I want voters focused on helping candidates win not sitting on their couches watching C-SPAN hearing a rehash of his sins that we already know about.
spike jones
(1,678 posts)By Gabriella Muñoz - The Washington Times - Wednesday, November 7, 2018
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi received an unlikely show of support from President Trump Wednesday in her bid for speaker of the House.
In all fairness, Nancy Pelosi deserves to be chosen Speaker of the House by the Democrats, the president tweeted. If they give her a hard time, perhaps we will add some Republican votes. She has earned this great honor!
Trump thought she was exactly right.
Indykatie
(3,695 posts)Do you think Trump's comment persuaded any one to vote for Pelosi? Trump knew Pelosi was gonna win regardless of what he said.
spike jones
(1,678 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The timing can be planned. But there's no option. To do otherwise would mean the law has no meaning. You don't fail to pursue the law because there might be a bad political consequence for you, too.
This is not the time. And we don't know if we have the hard evidence. We need Mueller's report and for the House to get further along in investigations.
But if the evidence comes in, we have no choice. This is when the Democrats show that they stand for something and have the interests of the country uppermost in mind.
Impeach does not mean remove. The House can impeach him, and it will go no further. But "impeached" will be on Trump's record forever, showing that he had done something (s) very serious.
Do you think the Republicans let it stop them that Bill Clinton wouldn't be impeached in the Senate? You think they said to each other, "Oh, no. We shouldn't do this, because it won't go any further and will be divisive."
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)plus, with all the daily drama from the orange nazi MSM would go bankrupt if they didn't have him driving their profits, I means, that is why they got him elected.
In It to Win It
(8,233 posts)Trump is popular among republicans but republicans are peeling off.
We want to beat him and I don't believe impeaching him will lead to us winning.
Stinky The Clown
(67,786 posts)I also think she would impeach in a heartbeat if the climate changes.
Let the investigations continue!
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)Not acting to remove him is to be complicit in everything that happens from here on out, so when he totally destroys our Democracy history will judge Nancy Pelosi's failure to act as being complicit in allowing it to happen.
I do not support her position on this issue.
Perrenial Voter
(173 posts)decisions based on the impact on their political careers and/or their party. It is clear that Pelosi is concerned that impeachment might damage Dems because it damaged Republicans when they impeached Clinton. But the crimes like lying us into war (Bush) and obstruction of justice are in a different league than consensual sex and are certainly enough to impeach. If she is concerned about having the opportunity to make public all of Trumps many crimes--like putting our foreign policy up for sale--or until there is clear evidence to implicate Pence, I may be ok with it, for now. But there is plenty to impeach and God knows what damage Trump will do while we are waiting.
Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)Mueller, the election, further high crimes and misdemeanors, potential martyrdom thatvwould actually help him get re-elected, there are many reasons to walk this out very carefully. We have no idea whats going on backstage. Impeached isnt removed. It could fuel the fire and the Senate would never do it.
crud
(617 posts)covered all the bases. When you actually game things out it isn't clear anymore that impeachment is the strategy to take.