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Coventina

(27,101 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:24 AM Mar 2019

If crimes are uncovered, action must be taken. Congress needs to do its job.

Political gamesmanship needs to take a back seat to reality.

More dereliction of duty will not improve the situation, or do anything to check the imperial presidency.

That's my statement.

I'm sure I'm about to be roasted, and that's fine.

But you won't change my mind.

I'll offer this one caveat: Everything could change with the Mueller report.

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If crimes are uncovered, action must be taken. Congress needs to do its job. (Original Post) Coventina Mar 2019 OP
Your last statement was the clincher. Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #1
But she added that it must be "bipartisan" Bettie Mar 2019 #3
No point without removal. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #2
Yes, there is a point. It will put the Republican-controlled Senate on record as enablers. Coventina Mar 2019 #5
And possibly put Trump in office for four more years...so not worth it. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #6
Why so? The Trumpers are dying off every week. He will have even less votes Coventina Mar 2019 #7
Patience will pay off. Needs to burst wide open right before cpamomfromtexas Mar 2019 #4

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
1. Your last statement was the clincher.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:37 AM
Mar 2019

Pelosi made a very smart move by not wanting to talk about impeachment unless or until conclusive damning evidence is revealed by the Mueller report.

That evidence and it’s ramifications may be right around the corner (??). Time will tell. She kept the party clean until nation wide public opinion is on our side to make a very bold move to impeach.

Let’s just hope that we, the people, are entitled to see the results of Mueller’s work, which, unfortunately, I highly doubt will happen to the degree we deem fair and necessary.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
3. But she added that it must be "bipartisan"
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:43 PM
Mar 2019

well, it will never be that.

Never.

They will never admit that their orange idol has done wrong. Not a single one of them will ever do that. They may make weak little noises about not liking this or that, but when push comes to shove they will never vote against one of their own.

He could shoot someone to death in the Capital in front of TV cameras and every republican congresscritter would come up with reasons why it was OK and it was just "Trump being Trump".

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
5. Yes, there is a point. It will put the Republican-controlled Senate on record as enablers.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:39 PM
Mar 2019

And it will not be a good look in the history books.

Yes, Clinton was impeached but not removed, but here is the crucial difference:

The Senate HAD the votes to remove him (politically) if they had wanted to do so. However, the impeachment was seen for what it was: A purely political stunt that went nowhere.

It is important that the reverse be shown to be true, if that indeed becomes the case.

It will be seen as political protection of a corrupt and criminal president by ONE of our major political parties.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
7. Why so? The Trumpers are dying off every week. He will have even less votes
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 06:22 PM
Mar 2019

going into the next election cycle, and he lost the popular vote by millions last time.

The only way he can win is by cheating, and if that is the case, his win won't be due to impeachment.

cpamomfromtexas

(1,245 posts)
4. Patience will pay off. Needs to burst wide open right before
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:54 PM
Mar 2019

Election. Let this spill over on every republican that refused to speak out against him and block Pence from ever taking the job.

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