The cheating has going on for years and will continue!

[imanamerican63]

The college fraud scheme is no different than other fraudulent things. Hey, Trump got out of going to Vietnam by falsifying his medical records. His father paid for Donnie to get into with a donation(a bribe most likely) to the schools he went to. He wasn't smart enough for a community college let alone a Ivy League school. He, Trump, paid off people to hide his grade and threatened them if the grade were released. Yes, the fraudulent schemes of this last scam is illegal and those involved must be held accountable! Saying that, Trump should be accountable for his every illegal scam! Here is another matter! Will those involved get a light sentence like Manafort of found guilty? One has to wonder?

[keith sw]

1. I went to high school

With a kid that had a father and grandfather that were both high profile attorneys. This kid was a complete dumbass. A clown who never took school seriously. I think he graduated in the bottom 10 of our class. Somehow, he got into Yale. This was 30 years ago

[PeeJ52]

2. I don't understand this at all? I thought that's the way it always worked even back in the 70s...

That's why I went to Kent extension and took a few classes at the main campus. That's why my kids went to community college is because we couldn't afford the real thing. Real college is for rich folks, or if you're super intelligent, you might get a scholarship that covers 25%, or if you're a great athlete, you get to go for free. Everyone knows that. That's why college coaches get paid way more than teachers. I get what the fuss is. Rich people give money to colleges, their kids get accepted to that college with no problem. Where's the scandal? Let's get back to the Chinese madam... I know there's some deeper dirt there...

[imanamerican63]

3. That is the just of my thread!

Trump is the main thrust of my point!

[PeeJ52]

5. Yeah... I agree...

Sorry... I didn't mean I didn't understand your thread. I agree with your thread. I don't understand the "scandal" or why people are getting arrested or why it's even in the news. Heck, we have a 4 high schools in the city here where I live. One high school is a state wide football powerhouse. It seems all the best football players in the city move in with someone in that school's boundaries so they can attend that school during the school year, win the state championship, get their college scholarship, and move on. It's all about cheating the system. That's why tRump is pResident. You cheat, you win. They should teach that as a class in school.

[zipplewrath]

4. It has always been so

These knuckle heads were just dumb enough to actually break the law. There's no law against donating huge sums to a university and getting your kid in. Done correctly, you might even be able to take a tax deduction. And quite honestly, for much of the fuss being made, the Trumps, Kennedy's, and Kushners of the world probably aren't "taking" anyone's place. Harvard can choose to admit 1100, or 1101 students if they want. The real travesty was the scholarship that went to some kind for Crew that didn't know squat about it. Or the 5th chair in the orchestra that didn't play an instrument. There was some deserving kid that missed out there so that the coach, or instructor, could basically take a bribe.

[dubyadiprecession]

6. This right winger I know, claims...

Felicity’s kid is white and didn’t qualify under affirmative action to be placed in that school. Could that be true?

[Blue_playwright]

7. My thoughts...

I get that they did a lot (test cheating, etc.) But I do not see how it is any different than people who donate a building and then get their kids in because of it. It’s all money influencing admissions.

My kids go to an expensive college prep school. 75% scholarship awarded to both girls or we couldn’t do it. We barely make it and drive old cars as it is. Anyway, at a “paying for college, applying for college meeting” for parents one night, a very wealthy parent asked how much the advisor thought it would take to guarantee admission to an Ivy League school - she began to reply about grades, etc. and the dad interrupted and said he meant monetary donations, what’s it gonna cost?

Even my wealthy parent friend group I sat with that night was shocked he would ask in public. Then we were all stunned when he said “5 million? 30?”

He thought that was a normal question. She replied that he should start with the alumni relations team and go from there (he was an alum).

When that is the norm, I find it hard to lay too much blame on these parents. The pressure they must have to send little Biff to a prestigious school must be overwhelming coupled with an underperforming child, drowning in privilege, that they see throwing their future away.

I eat a lot of Raman and my hub drives a 20- year-old car for our kids’ education. And we have level-headed kids who have middle class practicality. But even we felt the pressure when our eldest didn’t get a big enough scholarship for the school of her choice to be viable. It was painful. I can’t say that if I had money and a lower performing kid that I wouldn’t do the same.

I am glad they are not blaming the kids. Parental pressure in that situation could be brutal.

I do blame the schools and the coaches who took the bribes. As a former teacher for two smaller colleges, I would never put myself at that kind of risk professionally.

Thoughts?

(It’s nice to ponder about things that aren’t Trump.)

[Blue_playwright]

8. 750 families gamed the system.

According to NBC. [link:https://apple.news/ASRCkLAWdQMWbaDry6mKCyw|

Really kinda (selfishly) hope no parents from our school are a part of this. 🙁