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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,407 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:00 AM Mar 2019

Why all the hate for AOC?

Not talking about the Republican hate for AOC (that's pretty much a given at this point) but what I'm seeing of some fellow Democrats towards AOC is bothering me. And it's not really garden variety minor criticisms and nitpicks about her that disturb me, but it's like wild, outlandish slurs that I've heard from DEMOCRATIC Facebook friends against her like her being "our version" of Donald Trump and feeding into/promoting the right-wing distortions and outright lies about the Green New Deal.

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Why all the hate for AOC? (Original Post) Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2019 OP
lol Facebook friends . stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #1
IKR... Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #10
I wish we had 200 more, watoos Mar 2019 #2
Hillary is out of the loop, so they need another strong woman to pillorize! TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Huffleprecious Mar 2019 #3
Name a Democrat who's "scared" of her brooklynite Mar 2019 #11
She's part of "the establishment"...a Democratic Representative in the House. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #36
Quite a few here consider her the personification of Justice Democrats pecosbob Mar 2019 #4
What's your opinion? watoos Mar 2019 #5
You're just trying to get me in dutch... pecosbob Mar 2019 #7
+1 CentralMass Mar 2019 #26
And I can understand a criticism like that Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2019 #8
A PAC with a mission statement to "rebuild the Democratic party from scratch" ehrnst Mar 2019 #37
from what I can surmise, she is is the 'wrong kind' of democrat. KG Mar 2019 #6
She gets a lot of attention from the MSM and LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #9
Is it a bit of anxiety that AOC and some other freshmen Dems are procon Mar 2019 #12
The Democrat she beat in the primary, Joe Crowley, currently took a job as a K Street lobbyist. jalan48 Mar 2019 #13
Do you have an objection to a specific vote of position Crowley took? brooklynite Mar 2019 #15
No objections that I know of, just an observation. AOC doesn't appear to be the K St lobbyist type, jalan48 Mar 2019 #17
He didn't bother to campaign, so I have to wonder if he wanted to stay in office. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #38
Yes, I read he sent a surrogate to debate her at one of their scheduled debates. It does make a jalan48 Mar 2019 #39
I think hate is an overblown description... brooklynite Mar 2019 #14
No hate from me. Polly Hennessey Mar 2019 #16
It's not hate, and I get that she's the next big thing, but Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #18
Maybe time to drop your Facebook "friends" n/t emulatorloo Mar 2019 #19
She has associated with Bernie Sanders. Mariana Mar 2019 #20
There seems to be extreme love, too treestar Mar 2019 #21
It's "Know-Your-Placeism" HughBeaumont Mar 2019 #22
I like the cut of your jib, mister. pecosbob Mar 2019 #25
word. KG Mar 2019 #34
It is always the same ones. pwb Mar 2019 #24
I'm a big fan. CentralMass Mar 2019 #27
Um....why not ask your Facebook friends? DrToast Mar 2019 #28
Hate? Horizens Mar 2019 #29
I like her Tribalceltic Mar 2019 #30
I don't hate her and she represents her district well. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #31
Screenshot or it didn't happen MrGrieves Mar 2019 #32
I would be calling out a fellow DUer Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2019 #33
Many don't like an outspoken, Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #35
Not here on DU. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #40

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
10. IKR...
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:37 AM
Mar 2019

It's not just "news" that should be taken with a grain of salt on FB.

Methinks the OP should concern himself more with not feeding trolls.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. I wish we had 200 more,
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:10 AM
Mar 2019

just like her in Congress. Speaker Pelosi taking her under her wing has stopped some of the negativity here on DU, but there are still lurkers here just waiting to pounce on her.

The right fears her because she is one of the few Dems who has the ability to change the right wing narratives.

If Republicans don't have the M$M behind them they have nothing.

Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

pecosbob

(7,537 posts)
4. Quite a few here consider her the personification of Justice Democrats
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:22 AM
Mar 2019

which is to say a group that works to primary moderate Democratic incumbents. Many consider this heresy.

pecosbob

(7,537 posts)
7. You're just trying to get me in dutch...
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:35 AM
Mar 2019

I already have three posts hidden in the last ninety days....won't say any more. Suffice to say I'm glad to see at least one Democratic incumbent that has some rhetorical skill. Dems should be loud and obnoxious instead of timid and meek.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,407 posts)
8. And I can understand a criticism like that
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:36 AM
Mar 2019

Just not some of the other things that I mentioned in my OP. Calling her a left-wing version of Donald Trump is just a bridge too far IMHO because she might not get the facts of something right here and there.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
37. A PAC with a mission statement to "rebuild the Democratic party from scratch"
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:15 AM
Mar 2019

is hardly supportive of Democrats, seeing as one must demolish in order to "rebuild from scratch."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Democrats

Cenk Uygur is a co-founder, and he's shown that he's definitely not a fan of Democrats.

If you want to equate a healthy, informed skepticism of JD's motives with calling them "heretics" that's your business.

This is DU, so you're going to find defense of and support for the Democratic party.

Just an FYI.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
9. She gets a lot of attention from the MSM and
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:37 AM
Mar 2019

they use her to scare older voters away from the Democrats. I wouldn't say Democrats hate her, but many feel that the amount of attention she gets isn't warranted.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. Is it a bit of anxiety that AOC and some other freshmen Dems are
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:39 AM
Mar 2019

upsetting the old applecart? They are certainly bold, brash, assertive and very public about their policies and positions. These confident, outspoken young women are not going to be content as the usual submissive backbenchers, a traditional role for newbies that apparently some people want to force on them.

They might make a few mistakes as they are learning the ropes, but they sure bring a fresh enthusiasm and vitality to politics that makes it more interesting and exciting.

jalan48

(13,860 posts)
13. The Democrat she beat in the primary, Joe Crowley, currently took a job as a K Street lobbyist.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:43 AM
Mar 2019

Maybe some prefer this kind of Democrat.

jalan48

(13,860 posts)
17. No objections that I know of, just an observation. AOC doesn't appear to be the K St lobbyist type,
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:49 AM
Mar 2019

but I could be wrong.

jalan48

(13,860 posts)
39. Yes, I read he sent a surrogate to debate her at one of their scheduled debates. It does make a
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:37 AM
Mar 2019

person wonder if he really wanted to win.

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
14. I think hate is an overblown description...
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:43 AM
Mar 2019

I think some people see an opportunity for Leadership to move a lot of valuable legislation in advance of the 2020 Election, and AOC and her allies are potentially disrupting that progress (and the messaging in support of it), by pushing more extreme (and much more difficult to pass) options like GND.

Polly Hennessey

(6,794 posts)
16. No hate from me.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:48 AM
Mar 2019

I am thoroughly impressed with OAC, Katie Porter, and all of the other NEW women in Congress. I keep saying, “keep it up” and find myself finally beginning to sigh with relief. There may be hope yet and most of that hope is coming from women.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
18. It's not hate, and I get that she's the next big thing, but
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 10:54 AM
Mar 2019

I personally wish she would just tone down her profile a tad and not shoot from the hip so much...

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
20. She has associated with Bernie Sanders.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:11 AM
Mar 2019

You'll likely find that that the hateful comments about AOC are mostly from the very same people who post hateful comments about Bernie.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. There seems to be extreme love, too
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 11:13 AM
Mar 2019

If you see hate, it is likely due to the same phenomenon observed with Bernie. The supporters claiming the moderates are not good enough.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
22. It's "Know-Your-Placeism"
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:46 PM
Mar 2019

Kind of like what's happening here -



It's why I don't want any candidate for president born during the FDR/Truman administrations. No offense, but you had your time, and you got us TRUMP.

We cannot move forward with an over-represented block of aging moderates pushing stale incremental Republican-lite ideas that simply do not work in the 21st century. Modern capitalists are part of this aged block; they're more greedy & neo-Fascist than ever and they too bitterly cling to their unsurpassed power and riches with super glue.
 

Horizens

(637 posts)
29. Hate?
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:11 PM
Mar 2019

I don't "hate" anyone. I do think that AOC is a gift to the republicans and an albatross for the democrats. I can't be any more specific as to why I feel this way because DU will censor my opinion as they have many times before on this very subject.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
31. I don't hate her and she represents her district well.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:33 PM
Mar 2019

And I’m glad she pisses off republicans.

That said, I think her passion and gift for attention leads many passionate democrats to badly misread our overwhelming victory 2018 and feeds into the narrative that it was victory was of the left of our party or Democratic Socialism.

Which is not only totally incorrect but risky to our future. The loudest new freshman do not represent why we won in 18. They all won safe seats. It was more moderate democrats who actually picked up republican seats that drove our victory. That is why we won the house, we picked good candidates who could win in their districts. You know, a 50 state strategy?

If we are fooled into thinking America as a whole is pining for a candidate like her we are going to lose.

You may disagree and I respect that. But I think the facts are on my side. Does anyone here think AOC could have flipped a seat from a republican? If so, I would respectfully like to hear your argument.

So there. A thoughtful post about why I am uncomfortable with her attention grabbing nature.

No hate at all.




 

MrGrieves

(315 posts)
32. Screenshot or it didn't happen
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:37 PM
Mar 2019

Sorry but “Some people on facebook” isn’t gonna fly.

Show me Democrats that hate her or this is a lame topic.

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