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global1

(25,241 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:19 PM Mar 2019

Where Exactly Is The 'Collusion' Case Against Manafort?....

Trump and Manafort's lawyers claim 'no collusion' on both last weeks sentencing and today's sentencing.

As far as I know the issue of collusion has not come up in either of these cases.

So is Manafort still on the hook for 'collusion' by Mueller? Is it possible that there will be another indictment of Manafort by Mueller for 'collusion' or some funny stuff with Russia?

Given all of Manafort's ties with Russians and Ukrainians - I can't believe that he will skate on the 'collusion' issue.

What could happen yet with respect to Manafort and 'collusion'?

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Where Exactly Is The 'Collusion' Case Against Manafort?.... (Original Post) global1 Mar 2019 OP
Personally I believe Mueller will charge Manafort with crimes related to collusion manor321 Mar 2019 #1
It's Trump and his minions squirting out their political squid ink. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #2
Political squid ink! Poiuyt Mar 2019 #5
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2019 #8
That will be during the U. S. vs Trump trial world wide wally Mar 2019 #3
The crime is conspiracy sfwriter Mar 2019 #4
It's an PR scam to make Trump look blameless. procon Mar 2019 #6
He gave polling data to Russians and met secretly with them MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #7
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. Personally I believe Mueller will charge Manafort with crimes related to collusion
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:22 PM
Mar 2019

We'll have to wait and see.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
2. It's Trump and his minions squirting out their political squid ink.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:25 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Manafort has not (yet) been prosecuted for crimes related to Russian election interference.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
4. The crime is conspiracy
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 01:49 PM
Mar 2019

Likely conspiracy related to election crimes.

I still believe he’s going to be charging more people. Managort may well be one of them.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. It's an PR scam to make Trump look blameless.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:14 PM
Mar 2019

Paul Manafort’s judge strongly rebukes Manafort’s — and Trump’s — ‘no collusion’ refrain

Judge Amy Berman Jackson made several strong statements before sentencing former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort on Wednesday. But one, in particular, struck at the core of President Trump’s personal defense in the Russia investigation.

She said the “no collusion” mantra is bunk.

Manafort’s legal team had suggested repeatedly in its sentencing memo that the fact that he hadn’t been found to have colluded with Russia should be a mitigating factor when it came to how much time he would serve in prison. But Jackson not only rejected that argument in sentencing him to 43 additional months in prison, she also rejected the entire argument behind it.

“The ‘no collusion’ refrain that runs through the entire defense memorandum is unrelated to matters at hand,” she said. “The ‘no collusion’ mantra is simply a non sequitur.” Then she added: “The ‘no collusion’ mantra is also not accurate, because the investigation is still ongoing.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/13/paul-manaforts-judge-strongly-rebukes-manaforts-trumps-no-collusion-refrain/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.dccb5d281368



Trump has been using this tactic for months, misrepresenting statements by key players in the Russia probe and falsely claiming there was “no collusion”. He thinks he can still claim it's all a hoax even though the investigations are still ongoing:





MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
7. He gave polling data to Russians and met secretly with them
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:32 PM
Mar 2019

I think mueller desperately wanted Manafort to testify concerning the purpose and intent in providing polling data ... so they could direct trolls to those voters? So the Russians could hack specific machines?! I think mueller has his theories but needs everything locked up. At a minimum, he conspired to have foreigners contribute to the campaign and trump didn’t account for it in campaign filings.

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