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No Deal Brexit goes down (Original Post) malaise Mar 2019 OP
There should be a new election and referendum.... Raster Mar 2019 #1
I hope so. Brexit is insane. irresistable Mar 2019 #2
Pooty poot and Orange Turd will be pissed! oasis Mar 2019 #3
Non-binding, which is bullshit. What a mess! octoberlib Mar 2019 #4
Eat their cake and have it too zipplewrath Mar 2019 #5
The hard border with NI means violence Johnny2X2X Mar 2019 #7
Eu unlikely to grant extension without the promise of another public vote Johnny2X2X Mar 2019 #6
Farrage has been meddling in Hungary and Italy. Steve Bannon too. Recursion Mar 2019 #13
Link to BBC nitpicker Mar 2019 #8
Good news. There is hope that sensibility is KPN Mar 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Mar 2019 #10
i hope so. barbtries Mar 2019 #11
Pariiament can still reverse the decision to leave, I believe. Mariana Mar 2019 #19
that is basically what the guy on twitter told me. barbtries Mar 2019 #21
We're holding out hope for a last minute repeal of Brexit. Mariana Mar 2019 #22
They're going to crash out. Farrage has been lobbying Orban Recursion Mar 2019 #12
Just scrap it. Re-vote and dump the whole stupid idea NightWatcher Mar 2019 #14
If the U.K. leaves the EU, it won't be the UK anymore. roamer65 Mar 2019 #15
Don't be so sure about NI zipplewrath Mar 2019 #16
Why the UK decided this Brexit thing on a simple majority is beyond me. apnu Mar 2019 #17
They should hold a new vote in Parliment zaj Mar 2019 #18
Can't they just use the Emily Litella plan SoCalDem Mar 2019 #20

Raster

(20,998 posts)
1. There should be a new election and referendum....
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:34 PM
Mar 2019

...Britain was sold a bill of goods. STOP BREXIT!

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
4. Non-binding, which is bullshit. What a mess!
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:36 PM
Mar 2019

Since we're also living in a dumpster fire, remainers have my sympathy.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. Eat their cake and have it too
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:39 PM
Mar 2019

It would seem the problem here is that the Pro-Brexit folks want to eat their cake and have it too. They were sold a bill of goods in which they could leave, with no real consequence. It just isn't going to happen. At the very least there will need to be a hard border in NI.

It would seem that the only real option here is an extension, a "final" deal on exit, and a referendum on whether that deal should be accepted. You want exit? Vote FOR a hard border in NI.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
7. The hard border with NI means violence
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:40 PM
Mar 2019

That border will result in people shooting at it and bombing it, 100% guaranteed.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
6. Eu unlikely to grant extension without the promise of another public vote
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:39 PM
Mar 2019

EU has no reason to coddle the UK. Now they will tell them either you leave now with no deal and suffer the consequences, or you promise to hold another nationwide vote if we give you an extension.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. Farrage has been meddling in Hungary and Italy. Steve Bannon too.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:12 PM
Mar 2019

They aren't going to get an extension at all.

Response to malaise (Original post)

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
11. i hope so.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:10 PM
Mar 2019

my understanding, which is slight and comes from a short conversation on Twitter, is that Parliament could have reversed the decision to leave or call a second referendum at any time. it's good that No Deal has gone down at least. I would like to see the UK stay.

how much longer do you figure May has left?

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
19. Pariiament can still reverse the decision to leave, I believe.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:12 PM
Mar 2019

The referendum wasn't binding. The EU has said they'll allow the UK to remain and everything can be as it was. If Parliament simply vote to repeal Brexit, Brexit doesn't happen.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
21. that is basically what the guy on twitter told me.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:59 PM
Mar 2019

why is it that there is this compunction to run toward a cliff and off of it? I do have a British friend. She's lived in the USA for over 30 years but never naturalized (married to an American). She is double distraught with what's going on there, and here. Brexit will be a disaster, but the worst case scenario was just rejected at least.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
22. We're holding out hope for a last minute repeal of Brexit.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:44 PM
Mar 2019

My husband is English and he can't believe the stupidity.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. They're going to crash out. Farrage has been lobbying Orban
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:11 PM
Mar 2019

Any extension will require unanimous EU approval, and Hungary and Italy won't grant it.

It's all over but the shouting: the UK will exit without a deal in 2 weeks.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
15. If the U.K. leaves the EU, it won't be the UK anymore.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:16 PM
Mar 2019

Scotland will start the process of secession and NI will begin unification talks with Dublin. What will we call just England and Wales?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
16. Don't be so sure about NI
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:20 PM
Mar 2019

There are still a significant number of "loyalists". They may be a minority, but they will be a significant minority. The current power sharing agreement will make it difficult for them to be forced out of the UK.

apnu

(8,755 posts)
17. Why the UK decided this Brexit thing on a simple majority is beyond me.
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:38 PM
Mar 2019

That's a moments decision that has far reaching affects and they did it on a simple majority?

That was but the first of 1,000 head scratching decisions the UK made.

And these people recently had a world spanning Empire? Wow.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
18. They should hold a new vote in Parliment
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 04:50 PM
Mar 2019

Yes, is approval of latest proposal
No, is a new national referendum where the public votes on a new

LEAVE EU under latest proposal
STAY in EU

Effectively revoting on Brexit but facing a reality in the vote.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
20. Can't they just use the Emily Litella plan
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:27 PM
Mar 2019

and pretend the whole thing was a nutty plan...Blame Cameron and go back to normal business?


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