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Trump didn't pull the trigger in Christchurch. But the man who did praised him as a symbol of "white identity"CHAUNCEY DEVEGA MARCH 15, 2019 2:05PM (UTC)
The president of the United States gives both permission and encouragement for public's behavior, values and norms. This is true both in the United States and around the world. He or she is that powerful.
Earlier on Friday, a 28-year-old white man who appears to have described himself as "an actual fascist" entered two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, armed with assault rifles and killed at least 49 people, injuring many 20 others. New Zealand authorities also report that the attacker had placed two explosive devices on his vehicle, which apparently did not detonate.
In an especially gruesome contemporary twist, the gunman apparently streamed parts of the terror attack live on Facebook. Although that feed and other accounts apparently associated with the shooter have been taken down, the New York Times reports that both the 17-minute video and a manifesto apparently posted by the shooter have been widely disseminated on social media.
According to various reports, the alleged terrorist specifically cited President Trump as an inspiration. His online manifesto praises Trump as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose.
https://www.salon.com/2019/03/15/does-anyone-doubt-that-donald-trump-inspired-the-new-zealand-massacre/
Johnny2X2X
(19,043 posts)Trump as literally given a shout out in the shooter's manifesto.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Sorry world but it seems we can't do anything to stop our homegrown fascist monster.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,676 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Like a bloated parasite consuming gangrenous tissue.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,676 posts)as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose. Trump's influence is only part of a much larger international white supremacist movement.
underpants
(182,773 posts)Youd think people would be weary of it was in the internet but many radical elements use it effectively and, hell, the spare time yoga pants crowd can be convinced not to get their kid their shots.
Johnny2X2X
(19,043 posts)He literally wrote that American Trump Loving Conservative Candace Owens was his biggest inspiration.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)for it.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,676 posts)Trump normalizes it and feeds it because of his position, but he didn't invent it. If you read Anders Breivik's crackpot manifesto you can see where at least some of this stuff comes from (besides the writer's own diseased mind). One of his main influences was the virulently anti-Muslim activist, Breitbart contributor and Trump supporter Pamela Geller. Breivik is not allowed internet access in prison but there are plenty more of his ilk out there, recruiting on the internet just like ISIS.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Everything we hate about him, they glorify.
He's no closer to resembling their idea of a specimen of the master race than he is the evangelicals' Christ and yet both groups have transformed him into some cult hero. They worship an blustering orange combover with no substance but plenty of poisonous bile.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)Some people do. White nationalists do not.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I pretty much consider them all Tump Youth since Charlottesville.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)Encouraged yes.
MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)You know that sometime in the next month or so Huckabee-Sanders will come out again and tell you that there is no way that IQ45 EVER said anything that would suggest that we should not love one another............
durablend
(7,460 posts)She'll say if the "left" had allowed Trump to build his wall none of this would've ever happened
JuJuYoshida
(2,215 posts)it's all over sites right now.
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)I have to wonder how many copy cats around the world (most likely USA)
are waiting for the right opportunity.
mia
(8,360 posts)...
The president boasted about having the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump before threatening to unleash the fire & fury of his fan base if liberals refuse to play nice.
I have the tough people, but they dont play it tough until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad, Trump said. But the left plays it cuter and tougher.
Some people may interpret this as inciting violence, and for good reason. A couple of his supporters have already been busted for mailing bombs to Democrats and planning massive terrorist attacks from inside the US Coast Guard....
happybird
(4,605 posts)Anything to piss people off, inflame tensions, and generate bigger headlines. Unstable racist shitbags exist everywhere. They don't need to look across the ocean for inspiration.
I definitely think the shitgibbon is making these loons bolder in expressing their vile opinions, but this manifesto reads like a giant troll. It's a little too on the nose.
dustyscamp
(2,224 posts)He is clearly doing this for the reaction
ansible
(1,718 posts)In a way it is. This guy was clearly lurking 4chan /pol a lot.
ansible
(1,718 posts)Have you seen their official government policy towards immigrants?? Holy shit even Trump wouldn't get away with doing this. Believe it or not, but it's not just americans who have crazy right wingers.
global1
(25,241 posts)addressing the fact that Trump was an inspiration to this terrorist?