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bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:08 PM Mar 2019

Need your thoughts here! Now if the Supreme court were to decide for tRUMPs emergency declaration

Aren't the RETHUGS making a BIG mistake,(by NOT over riding tRUMPS veto)? When a Democrat WINS in 2020? Will this SC. decision set precedence? I'm not sure how this works out.

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Need your thoughts here! Now if the Supreme court were to decide for tRUMPs emergency declaration (Original Post) bluestarone Mar 2019 OP
It seems to me that MyOwnPeace Mar 2019 #1
We will take full advantage of this bluestarone Mar 2019 #2
I don't think that would work FBaggins Mar 2019 #5
They will try their damndest to make the ruling as narrow as possible Jake Stern Mar 2019 #3
I'm sure your right! bluestarone Mar 2019 #4
Not sure what they legal argument they are using, DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #6
That's why theTurtle wants to change the law. sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #7
Right BUT if the house refuses then bluestarone Mar 2019 #8
If, somehow, the right wing justices vote to enable this "emergency," Vinca Mar 2019 #9
Exactly! bluestarone Mar 2019 #10

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
1. It seems to me that
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:13 PM
Mar 2019

if the Repugs maintain IQ45's veto then they should sit down and shut up when the next Democratic president declares a national emergency regarding global warming and gun control.

I mean, why would they change their thinking on that? They have always been against any Democratic budget that has any kind of deficit - so of course they'd NEVER create one themselves, would they?

Seems very clear to me............

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
2. We will take full advantage of this
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:19 PM
Mar 2019

STUPID decision of the RETHGUGS Not over riding tRUMPS veto! Come on 2020!!

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
5. I don't think that would work
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:30 PM
Mar 2019

The declaration of a national emergency boosts executive authority in distinct ways... not just anything the president wants to do. It’s largely related to an unwise delegation of legislative authority to the executive branch

However, Congress doesn’t have the authority to (for instance) ban all handguns... so the future Democratic President couldn’t claim that they had delegated that authority to the president in emergencies.

On climate change, prior Democratic administrations have already used emergencies for executive action, but there isn’t enough wiggle room there to have much of an impact. Even if Trump succeeds in redirecting a few billions to a wall... that’s a drop in the bucket compared to what is needed.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
3. They will try their damndest to make the ruling as narrow as possible
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:20 PM
Mar 2019

so it can't be used as precedent much the same as they did with Bush v. Gore. Either that or they'll be sure to leave an opening they can use later to strike down a Dem president's emergency declaration.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
6. Not sure what they legal argument they are using,
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:34 PM
Mar 2019

but I'd probably argue that the law giving away Congress' Article I constitutional power was in itself unconstitutional in the first place.

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
8. Right BUT if the house refuses then
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:54 PM
Mar 2019

The next president can do the same right? (If the senate doesn't override) Not too smart of them.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
9. If, somehow, the right wing justices vote to enable this "emergency,"
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:21 PM
Mar 2019

the first thing a Democratic POTUS should do is declare a gun emergency. Do guns kill more Americans or do migrant mothers and their babies?

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