It's Time to Attack White Nationalism for the Terror Group It Is

[DonViejo]

Nobody can claim, as George W. Bush did, that ‘we’re going to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here,’ because they're already ‘here’ with a vengeance.

Christopher Dickey
03.16.19 9:53 PM ET

PARIS—Donald Trump was right. The special pleading around the question of whether to call terrorism by radical Muslims “radical Islamic terrorism” clouded a critical issue. The fight against extremism must start with ideas, and with language that is clear and unequivocal. Which is why we should be perfectly blunt about what Brenton Tarrant, the 28-year-old monster of Christchurch, claimed to represent, and did and does represent, which is white nationalist terrorism.

Tarrant may have been a lone shooter when he slaughtered 50 people at two mosques in New Zealand on Friday, but he was not a “lone wolf.” He was part of a much wider movement that is every bit as extensive as Al Qaeda was when it attacked the United States in 2001, and potentially much more dangerous to the future of Western democracies.

Now, before it grows any stronger, should be the time to move against it with the same kind of concerted international focus of attention and resources that were trained on Osama bin Laden. Now is the time for a global war on white nationalist terrorism. But that’s not likely to happen. As The Daily Beast reported on Friday, fewer than one in five FBI cases target white supremacists.

Nobody can claim, as the George W. Bush administration did, that “we’re going to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here,” because they are already “here” with a vengeance, steadily increasing their power and presence in Western democracies.

Networks of white nationalist apologists, sympathizers, supporters and facilitators—vital to any terrorist movement—are deeply embedded in the political and social fabric. They are literally the enemy within. As an apologist, it should be said, President Donald Trump is in a class by himself. Trump is “a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose,” as Tarrant wrote in his manifesto.

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[Dennis Donovan]

1. "They are literally the enemy within..."

...and, in my case in Central NY, they are also neighbors (well, they haven't popped yet, but I've heard their hateful rhetoric and how they feel empowered by having Trump in the WH).

[Chin music]

12. Modern day 5th columnists.

Agent provocateurs, and enemies of the State and human advancement.

[ck4829]

22. Yep

[Hortensis]

14. Yes. Even those "white working men" Democrats

are now known to have fled to the white nationalist party because their white supremacist, and misogynistic, facets had been taking way too many hits by the Democrats.

Two years into learning what their party is becoming, over 90% of Republicans still support it and large numbers of right-leaning indies. And even some Democrats have alarmed political scientists by returning positive answers on polls measuring interest in dumping democracy in favor of authoritarian government.

[ck4829]

25. It's very disturbing

[ck4829]

2. K&R

[2naSalit]

3. Since they are on every continent...

Why are we calling them "White Nationalists"? That makes it seem as though it's in a locational, therefore smaller, context.

It's about them thinking they are supreme because of the color of their skin which means they are supremacists... why did we stop calling them that?

Let's not follow this squirrel, it's a change in the narrative to deflect from the larger picture.

It occurs to me that as a global operation, it's best to downplay the enormity of this issue and how the rest of us would rise up and object if we could see it for what it is. Several world leaders are of the supremacist's mindset... food for thought.

They might also be called white extremists.

[Hortensis]

15. White supremacists are on every continent, but nationalists

are in every nation with varying influence.

Let's face it, the kind of people who are drawn to leaders who promise to attack and exploit other races are the same people whose aggressive hostility in other situations is instead, or very usually also, focused against other nations, religions, political parties etc.

Which colors are involved changes depending on which colors are dominant or competing for domination in each nation.

[ck4829]

21. A nation is ultimately a social construct and this white nation is what it is

They want a white caliphate.

[NewJeffCT]

4. When Obama took office in early 2009

DHS under just confirmed Janet Napolitano issued a report saying that white extremists were the biggest threat to the US. It was roundly decried on Fox and the other media followed suit and used as an example by the Glenn Beck crowd that Obama was racist against white people. Then, it quietly died.

The funny thing, however, is that the entire report was put together when George W Bush was president - the final draft was just issued under Napolitano

[IronLionZion]

5. The problem is the Trump administration and their supporters view this as a solution

more than a problem. And they're totally fine with "sacrificing" a few nonwhite victims so as to better rule through fear and distraction.

[Chin music]

13. Another problem is caring that we can frame them as the problem, then

dismiss it another day. We've really let this go far too long. Our elected officilas need to double down on things. We all work 60 hours a week. Not tooo much to ask for the same until we right the ship.

[mopinko]

6. say it w me- white isis.

malcolm nance says the ic calls them white isis.
we need to make that stick.

[McKim]

8. This is an Excellent Frame

The label White Isis is an excellent frame to use! Naming ideas like this is so important! This is brilliant! I will start using it every time!

[mopinko]

9. the source is the best part imho.

malcolm said that is what all the terrorist hunters- fbi, cia- already call it.

[2naSalit]

16. +1

[ck4829]

19. +1

[littlemissmartypants]

7. What the expert, Ms. Belew says

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017535452

[mopinko]

10. this

like i mentioned in this thread- it might just point the way to the answer.
otherwise the species is fucked.

[paleotn]

11. This is the face of white nationalism.....

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And this is inevitably what white nationalism leads to.....



This should be the frame. It needs to be what first comes to mind for everyone when white supremacy is even mentioned.

[ck4829]

20. Right

[Initech]

26. Also this:

Fuck these fucking assholes.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

17. "quit making excuses or inventing euphemisms"

From the article:

Voters in Western nations have to understand that the fellow travelers of white nationalist terrorism are not acceptable participants in modern democracies, and vote them out, or see that they are prosecuted, or both.

And the very first step in that process is to quit making excuses or inventing euphemisms. The fight is not against conservatives, the right wing, the alt-right—it is against white nationalist terrorism and its apologists.

We have white nationalist terrorists in Puppetrump's cabinet.

[ck4829]

18. Indeed!

[Initech]

23. Radical White Supremacist Terrorism. Radical White Supremacist Terrorism.

Radical White Supremacist Terrorism. Radical White Supremacist Terrorism.

Radical White Supremacist Terrorism. Radical White Supremacist Terrorism.

Radical White Supremacist Terrorism. Radical White Supremacist Terrorism.

Radical White Supremacist Terrorism. Radical White Supremacist Terrorism.

Fuck white supremacists. Fuck white nationalists. Fuck neo Nazis.

[ck4829]

24. This devil goes by many names

White nationalist terrorism.
White supremacist terrorism.
Alt-right terrorism.
And "misunderstood loners"