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ffr

(22,665 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 06:55 PM Mar 2019

Trump Is In Trouble in Ohio As Union Leader Slams GOP Tax Scam



Donald Trump may be in trouble in Ohio. He won the state’s electoral votes in the 2016 election after promising to bring back factory jobs. But recent events show that factory workers have lost faith in the president they voted for.

David Green of the United Auto Workers (UAW) of Ohio spoke with CNN this morning and slammed Trump for breaking his campaign promises for workers.
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“A lot of people here voted for him,” Green said. “He came here and told folks, ‘Don’t sell your house, those jobs are coming back.’ And we’ve seen job losses.” - PoliticusUSA

So much winning.

Here's an idea, don't vote for a Republican at any level ever again in your life and we'll all be better off for it.
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Trump Is In Trouble in Ohio As Union Leader Slams GOP Tax Scam (Original Post) ffr Mar 2019 OP
Well anyone who bought his line of shit gets what they deserve. we can do it Mar 2019 #1
+1 ffr Mar 2019 #2
I think they got tired of getting the shaft! McKim Mar 2019 #20
Obama saved the idiots jobs, but they preferred racist lies. we can do it Mar 2019 #32
They could not have been as desperate as they were when GM was going thru bankruptcy. LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #34
So you don't want their votes? onenote Mar 2019 #4
Sure, but not at the expense of giving up what we stand for. we can do it Mar 2019 #6
??? What? ffr Mar 2019 #7
Telling someone they deserve what they got isn't the best way to gain their support. onenote Mar 2019 #12
It's the best way to make sure they don't make the same mistake again sharedvalues Mar 2019 #22
No. Obama and the Dems bailed out the auto industry and the state then fell in love with Repubs. LonePirate Mar 2019 #29
Damn right. And I want to see, going forward, Golden Raisin Mar 2019 #30
What % of workers @ Lordstown voters for Trump? Botany Mar 2019 #3
I grew up and went to high school there. I quit Facebook because all the hatred from ex classmates. PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #13
Yup. Botany Mar 2019 #15
Understand it was north of 50% of the UAW Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #16
Obama started to work on saving their jobs .. Botany Mar 2019 #18
They listen to Fox and Limbaugh sharedvalues Mar 2019 #23
I'm also from Ohio. Retired union. we can do it Mar 2019 #33
I'm still samplegirl Mar 2019 #19
+1 Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #25
We tried to tell them... Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #5
Maybe next time they'll listen to the dirty fucking hippies gratuitous Mar 2019 #10
the jig is up on the old ump-tray am-scay Blues Heron Mar 2019 #8
Union members voted for Trump? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2019 #9
Colonel Sander's chickens recommeneded that line of thinking. ffr Mar 2019 #11
I am a member of the UAW blueinredohio Mar 2019 #27
Even a blind hog finds an acorn, yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2019 #14
"A lot of people here voted for him," Green said. "He came here and told folks, 'Don't sell your hou rpannier Mar 2019 #17
I feel no sympathy for them as Trumps lying and stiffing people he owed was "well" documented. cstanleytech Mar 2019 #24
Yep rpannier Mar 2019 #26
Better yet do not vote for a politician that is clearly making a bald faced lie and instead cstanleytech Mar 2019 #21
Dumb asses Pepsidog Mar 2019 #28
Fool me once aeromanKC Mar 2019 #31

ffr

(22,665 posts)
2. +1
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 06:59 PM
Mar 2019

How naive are people that they cannot see through doublespeak, flimflam artists, and Grifter promises that sound too good to be true!?

McKim

(2,412 posts)
20. I think they got tired of getting the shaft!
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:35 PM
Mar 2019

I think these workers just got tired of getting the shaft from Neocon Austerity and the prices of everything rising. They kept waiting for relief but it never came. Factories moved out to Mexico. They were not stupid, they were desperate and this was not recognized or helped enough. Trump promised a lot and he has not followed through and they get that. I think we should court them and build an attractive platform that will win their votes. Empathy is called for here.

LiberalFighter

(50,783 posts)
34. They could not have been as desperate as they were when GM was going thru bankruptcy.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:47 PM
Mar 2019

So that is rubbish.

They need to be realistic and take advantage of other options. The options are difficult but impossible to make.

I went thru something similar back in the 80's. Came back from a long layoff. My choices were stay where I was, transfer to another assembly plant, or find another job. I was looking for a reason to stay but it didn't show up. So I moved nearly 400 miles away from home.

onenote

(42,585 posts)
12. Telling someone they deserve what they got isn't the best way to gain their support.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 07:45 PM
Mar 2019

Maybe you think so, but I beg to differ.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
22. It's the best way to make sure they don't make the same mistake again
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:36 PM
Mar 2019

Use this as a teaching moment to let them k ow what happens when they believe Republican lies.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
29. No. Obama and the Dems bailed out the auto industry and the state then fell in love with Repubs.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:52 PM
Mar 2019

Obama barely won the state in 2012 and Sen. Brown is the only Democrat the state has voted for since then. They turned their noses up against Cordray and the state voted for 45 by a massive margin in 2016. So I say fuck 'em. If they love Republicans so much, then they deserve all of the misery and hardships that come from electing Republicans at the state and federal level.

Republicans take no pause in belittling CA, MA or NY. I feel the same way about the ignorant (and racist) majorities of voters in OH who vote Republican.

Golden Raisin

(4,605 posts)
30. Damn right. And I want to see, going forward,
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:02 PM
Mar 2019

how many rank and file CONTINUE to vote Republican, if not for Trump too. I would love to be proven wrong and see them all voting for Democratic candidates but I'm not holding my breath.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
13. I grew up and went to high school there. I quit Facebook because all the hatred from ex classmates.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 07:49 PM
Mar 2019

I bet 50%. There are a lot of Racists up there.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
15. Yup.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 08:08 PM
Mar 2019

Obama is a n****r and Hillary was d**e bitch with a
liberal agenda .... never mind that both had worked to save their jobs. Btw the same racist assholes still love their Cleveland Browns and Ohio State Buckeyes.

I would bet >25% of the UAW workers @ Lordstown voted for Trump. Hate radio, Fox, and the decline in public education along with generational stupidity has taken its toll.

Btw I am from OH too.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. Understand it was north of 50% of the UAW
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 08:53 PM
Mar 2019

that went Trumper. They drank the Kool Aide peddled by fear mongers about losing their Jobs.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
18. Obama started to work on saving their jobs ..
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:09 PM
Mar 2019

... 2 or 3 days after the 2008 election. But Fox, their pastors, hate talk radio & internet stuff, along with generations of being racist and sexist got to them.

we can do it

(12,169 posts)
33. I'm also from Ohio. Retired union.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 10:40 PM
Mar 2019

Can not believe the stupidity of voting against your own best interests. Time and time again. They either are religious loons who want to control everyone or straight up bigots. (or both)The idiots who voted drump deserve what they get.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Maybe next time they'll listen to the dirty fucking hippies
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 07:24 PM
Mar 2019

One candidate told you what you wanted to hear. The party of the other candidate said you should start planning for a future different from your past, and laid out a road map for getting there. But you didn't want to hear that. You wanted everything to be just like it was. So you listened to the guy whose mouth wrote a lot of checks his administration couldn't cash.

Having failed the 2016 test, there's another one coming up next year. Study the past and the present so you can make a better decision in the future.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
11. Colonel Sander's chickens recommeneded that line of thinking.
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 07:28 PM
Mar 2019

Rah-rah-rah! Chickens for Colonel Sanders! He has our backs

and our legs
and our thighs
and our necks...


blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
27. I am a member of the UAW
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:42 PM
Mar 2019

And when I was working you would be surprised how many stupid people there are that believe anything republicans tell them. But I would hope if he's president of the Lordstown local he would NEVER vote for a republican.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
17. "A lot of people here voted for him," Green said. "He came here and told folks, 'Don't sell your hou
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:05 PM
Mar 2019

“A lot of people here voted for him,” Green said. “He came here and told folks, ‘Don’t sell your house, those jobs are coming back.’ And we’ve seen job losses.”

Allow me... “A lot of really stupid asshats here voted for him,” Green said. “He came here and told these clueless bastards, ‘Don’t sell your house, those jobs are coming back.’ And we’ve seen job losses.”

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
21. Better yet do not vote for a politician that is clearly making a bald faced lie and instead
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 09:35 PM
Mar 2019

vote for the one that is being honest and open which Hillary was doing.

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