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unblock

(52,118 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:38 PM Mar 2019

prediction: the *initial* mueller report spin will appear to exonerate donnie. *however*,

- there are sealed indictments, some of which may relate to the mueller investigation.

- the justice department may yet indict people who have been investigated by mueller.

- sdny is investigating.

- other jurisdictions may be investigating as well.

- the initial spin will be dominated by barr's interpretation and he is a donnie hack.

- the immediate subsequent spin will be dominated by donnie and the usual gang of right-wing media hacks.

- subsequent facts will come out more slowly.


i'm prepared to be disappointed in the short run, but i remain cautiously optimistic about the long run.

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prediction: the *initial* mueller report spin will appear to exonerate donnie. *however*, (Original Post) unblock Mar 2019 OP
The only hope of knowing the truth is the SDNY - Shitass and his cronies will deny forever. walkingman Mar 2019 #1
There's also a possibility C_U_L8R Mar 2019 #2
If it does say there is not enough evidence on Trump... Thomas Hurt Mar 2019 #3
They will instantly shift talking points. unblock Mar 2019 #18
We know the NY AG is doing some investigating Maeve Mar 2019 #4
That's right as far as we know Mystery sage Mar 2019 #9
If Spanky had a heads-up and it exonerates him, why has he been acting even crazier than usual? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #5
I'm not saying *the report* exonerates him. Just talking about the spin. unblock Mar 2019 #13
Concur with your assessment. n/t yowzayowzayowza Mar 2019 #6
The files being carted out suggests Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #7
It seems like Trump DID NOT conspire and did not COLLUDE. let it go. lancelyons Mar 2019 #8
Let it go? I don't think so. nt babylonsister Mar 2019 #11
You could be right or wrong on that. Eko Mar 2019 #12
Uh, nixon got the boot due to trying to shut down an investigation. unblock Mar 2019 #15
That isn't happening. lancelyons Mar 2019 #20
I would like to remind everyone about this. shockey80 Mar 2019 #10
There are no more indictments from Mueller. former9thward Mar 2019 #14
You have no evidence for that assertion either. unblock Mar 2019 #17
There are always sealed indictments in every district court. former9thward Mar 2019 #19
I agree mcar Mar 2019 #16

C_U_L8R

(44,988 posts)
2. There's also a possibility
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:44 PM
Mar 2019

That the report contains all the evidence needed to ouster and convict the oranganus. We just don’t know.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. If it does say there is not enough evidence on Trump...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:44 PM
Mar 2019

I am kind of curious as to how the trumpists are going to explain all the liberal bias, 17 dems, witch hunt etc protestations.

Mueller will be a Republican again in an instant.

unblock

(52,118 posts)
18. They will instantly shift talking points.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:53 PM
Mar 2019

No Donnie indictment means he's a perfectly legitimate law-abiding citizen and the entire exercise was a waste of fine and government money. Count on that being the spin....

Mystery sage

(576 posts)
9. That's right as far as we know
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:51 PM
Mar 2019

The opera theater is just filling up seats right now. Outside of some birds in cages nobody has sung anything yet.

unblock

(52,118 posts)
13. I'm not saying *the report* exonerates him. Just talking about the spin.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:47 PM
Mar 2019

In fact I'd wager that the report has some pretty damning stuff in it. But Donnie and his minions will soon any non-indictment as complete exoneration.

Moreover, the initial excerpts will also be the ones Donnie wants in the media first. We'll find out about the worse stuff later.

Qutzupalotl

(14,286 posts)
7. The files being carted out suggests
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:50 PM
Mar 2019

to me that the bulk of the prosecutions are going to come from other agencies, such as US attorneys and state AGs. In that scenario, the prosecutions would be still pending. Some indictments may exist under seal and be revealed at an opportune time.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
8. It seems like Trump DID NOT conspire and did not COLLUDE. let it go.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:50 PM
Mar 2019

As much as we wanted this it appears like there isnt enough evidence for Mueller to conclude that Trump conspired.

Yes he tried to cover up the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting but that doesnt mean anything.

There will be no further indictments.

Eko

(7,246 posts)
12. You could be right or wrong on that.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:01 PM
Mar 2019

The report could indeed show that he did but they wont indict him per DOJ guidelines.

unblock

(52,118 posts)
15. Uh, nixon got the boot due to trying to shut down an investigation.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:50 PM
Mar 2019

Sometimes the cover-up is worse than the original crime.

IMHO, Donnie has made repeated attempts to interfere and should be held to account for that, even if he had nothing to do with Russia (not that I believe that, either...).

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
20. That isn't happening.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:18 PM
Mar 2019

We need to focus on winning the presidency in 2020 which will get tougher if the economy stays strong.

We need a massive amount of liberals moving to red states to try and change the senate map.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
10. I would like to remind everyone about this.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:52 PM
Mar 2019

If the report says no conspiracy and no obstruction of justice. Everything Trump has done becomes normalized for all time. Think about that.

former9thward

(31,940 posts)
14. There are no more indictments from Mueller.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:49 PM
Mar 2019

There is zero evidence of any "sealed indictments" relating to Mueller. People have been pushing that for almost a year. It is long past its smell date.

unblock

(52,118 posts)
17. You have no evidence for that assertion either.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:51 PM
Mar 2019

We know there are some sealed indictments. We just don't know if they're mueller's or not. Time will tell.

former9thward

(31,940 posts)
19. There are always sealed indictments in every district court.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:59 PM
Mar 2019

There were 50 years ago and will be 50 years from now. DOJ says there is no more indictments relating to this investigation. If you want to believe different so be it.


Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has not recommended any more indictments in his final report, Justice Dept. official says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-report-sent-to-attorney-general-signaling-his-russia-investigation-has-ended/2019/03/22/b061d8fa-323e-11e9-813a-0ab2f17e305b_story.html?utm_term=.4c038138bbc9&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1

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