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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsprediction: the *initial* mueller report spin will appear to exonerate donnie. *however*,
- there are sealed indictments, some of which may relate to the mueller investigation.
- the justice department may yet indict people who have been investigated by mueller.
- sdny is investigating.
- other jurisdictions may be investigating as well.
- the initial spin will be dominated by barr's interpretation and he is a donnie hack.
- the immediate subsequent spin will be dominated by donnie and the usual gang of right-wing media hacks.
- subsequent facts will come out more slowly.
i'm prepared to be disappointed in the short run, but i remain cautiously optimistic about the long run.
walkingman
(7,580 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,988 posts)That the report contains all the evidence needed to ouster and convict the oranganus. We just dont know.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)I am kind of curious as to how the trumpists are going to explain all the liberal bias, 17 dems, witch hunt etc protestations.
Mueller will be a Republican again in an instant.
unblock
(52,118 posts)No Donnie indictment means he's a perfectly legitimate law-abiding citizen and the entire exercise was a waste of fine and government money. Count on that being the spin....
Maeve
(42,271 posts)Hang in there, folks. The fat lady hasn't sung yet.
Mystery sage
(576 posts)The opera theater is just filling up seats right now. Outside of some birds in cages nobody has sung anything yet.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,596 posts)unblock
(52,118 posts)In fact I'd wager that the report has some pretty damning stuff in it. But Donnie and his minions will soon any non-indictment as complete exoneration.
Moreover, the initial excerpts will also be the ones Donnie wants in the media first. We'll find out about the worse stuff later.
yowzayowzayowza
(7,017 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,286 posts)to me that the bulk of the prosecutions are going to come from other agencies, such as US attorneys and state AGs. In that scenario, the prosecutions would be still pending. Some indictments may exist under seal and be revealed at an opportune time.
lancelyons
(988 posts)As much as we wanted this it appears like there isnt enough evidence for Mueller to conclude that Trump conspired.
Yes he tried to cover up the purpose of the Trump Tower meeting but that doesnt mean anything.
There will be no further indictments.
babylonsister
(171,035 posts)Eko
(7,246 posts)The report could indeed show that he did but they wont indict him per DOJ guidelines.
unblock
(52,118 posts)Sometimes the cover-up is worse than the original crime.
IMHO, Donnie has made repeated attempts to interfere and should be held to account for that, even if he had nothing to do with Russia (not that I believe that, either...).
lancelyons
(988 posts)We need to focus on winning the presidency in 2020 which will get tougher if the economy stays strong.
We need a massive amount of liberals moving to red states to try and change the senate map.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)If the report says no conspiracy and no obstruction of justice. Everything Trump has done becomes normalized for all time. Think about that.
former9thward
(31,940 posts)There is zero evidence of any "sealed indictments" relating to Mueller. People have been pushing that for almost a year. It is long past its smell date.
unblock
(52,118 posts)We know there are some sealed indictments. We just don't know if they're mueller's or not. Time will tell.
former9thward
(31,940 posts)There were 50 years ago and will be 50 years from now. DOJ says there is no more indictments relating to this investigation. If you want to believe different so be it.
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has not recommended any more indictments in his final report, Justice Dept. official says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-report-sent-to-attorney-general-signaling-his-russia-investigation-has-ended/2019/03/22/b061d8fa-323e-11e9-813a-0ab2f17e305b_story.html?utm_term=.4c038138bbc9&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1