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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:51 PM Mar 2019

I think all of the hatred and vitriol in this country right now is making me physically sick.

Yesterday someone defaced the Oklahoma Democratic Party headquarters, antisemitic, racists misogynistic horrible things. Clearly written by a Nazi or someone who sympathizes with that crowd. It was horrible. I went to work this morning and one of the guys who works in the shop was laughing as he was walking down the hall looking at his phone. I asked him what was so funny, he said "somebody sent a message to those libs in OKC". I was dumbfounded, I didn't know what to say but he could see he made a mistake. I told him those types of incidents were going to destroy our country, he said no, just the libs.

I went back to my office, i was light headed, did not feel well at all. Checked my blood pressure as I am supposed to do and it was through the ceiling. I called my doctor and she told me to take the meds she gave me in case it went over 150 over 90 which it had. I am not sure if it is all of the nasty stuff. Watching 45 laugh in the faces of good Americans just because they don't agree with him, hoping that he will not destroy us and get elected for another 4.

There are days when I find myself getting angry in ways I have never gotten angry before. I don't like being angry, negative energy does nothing good for you.

We have a new boss who is from the oil business, he is a real piece of work, trying to destroy the man he replaced by smearing his name. It just makes me want to cry.

I am taking a break from most news, I still come here, but I may need a break from DU as well. I don't want to hate republicans, my brother is one, some of my friends are as well. I don't follow many of them and don't answer emails from some. I don't really want to hate anyone, but my feelings for 45 and his supporters is exactly that, hatred that they want to destroy our country just because they hate some of the cultural changes taking place. I know it is the final gasps of white privilege but I wish it would just hurry up and get it over with. Divided we fall, as a party and as a country.

Just a short edit, no need to worry about me, I am fine, I've survived worse than this, I just need to figure out how to do it in the 24/7 news world we live in.

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I think all of the hatred and vitriol in this country right now is making me physically sick. (Original Post) redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 OP
For the most part i have done that for sometime, at least in regard to the national news outlets still_one Mar 2019 #1
I don't watch any national news shows or any political based shows going on over 2 years, and beachbum bob Mar 2019 #2
I'm sorry. It's OUR country too. Chin music Mar 2019 #3
I know when you have these experiences face to face it is quite disheartening. My co-worker takes UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #4
That's a fact. And they know, and count on it. Chin music Mar 2019 #10
Well, Babs Bush said cilla4progress Mar 2019 #5
As the great Michelle Obama said 'when others go low, we go high' (I'm paraphrasing/recalling... SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #6
I know exactly how you feel. Ohiogal Mar 2019 #7
The news may be 24/7, but I am not. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2019 #8
You articulated it in a very good way. llmart Mar 2019 #13
This is how I handle it. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2019 #9
+1 Chin music Mar 2019 #11
You are not alone, redstatatebluegirl. Laffy Kat Mar 2019 #12
OKC? My first thought was the Murrah Building bombing & all those dead toddlers. That showed ... Hekate Mar 2019 #14
I have tons of music which I am listening to again. Last night listened to the temptations and notdarkyet Mar 2019 #28
Lovely to read this. mahina Apr 2019 #37
Politics is making everyone fucking crazy right now. Initech Mar 2019 #15
this mahina Apr 2019 #38
Thanks everyone, just needed to vent I guess. redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #16
Go hang out in the DU Lounge csziggy Mar 2019 #17
We're in the middle of another of our periodic nation-convulsing changes. Aristus Mar 2019 #18
This is what my husband says. redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #19
2020 will be the key. roamer65 Mar 2019 #20
I'm a lot more anxious in general than I used to be nini Mar 2019 #21
Sad to say, humans are gonna be humans... OldBaldy1701E Mar 2019 #22
K&R. Few are willing to look at our evolutionary history.... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #23
Sometimes an old saying is appropriate.... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #24
There is some good advice in the replies. Boomerproud Mar 2019 #25
If Trump succeeds in making us hate, dividing the country against itself, he wins. tetedur Mar 2019 #26
"There are days when I find myself getting angry in ways I have never gotten angry before." Whatever DontBooVote Mar 2019 #27
PTSD...President Trump Stress Disorder. I have had it forever. Karadeniz Mar 2019 #29
"no, just the libs" - Stupid belief of rightwingers re. dismantling of democratic norms Beartracks Mar 2019 #30
In my whole long life I never thought of giving up locks Mar 2019 #31
I am feeling the same way Tumbulu Mar 2019 #32
I feel sickened as well. Tumbulu Mar 2019 #33
Poladydi poladydi Mar 2019 #34
Frustration Aussie105 Apr 2019 #35
Take heart. Zoom out sometimes and remember we are all stardust. 💫 mahina Apr 2019 #36
These are spectacular selections.That's definitely going to be my next set when I'm done with Celts Hekate Apr 2019 #42
Hawai'i aloha! mahina Apr 2019 #43
Sistah, you just made me cry all ovah my iPad screen. This is a later version of exactly that song.. Hekate Apr 2019 #44
Wait wait wait: just found Kaulana Na Pua from Project Kuleana again... Hekate Apr 2019 #45
Oh my God, I love that mele. mahina Apr 2019 #46
Oh Palani ❤️❤️❤️❤️ mahina Apr 2019 #47
I feel you. I take breaks too. I only watch small portions of news these days. More watching does no themaguffin Apr 2019 #39
I can't turn away from any of it. RVN VET71 Apr 2019 #40
I think the country is collectively 'sick' these days. spanone Apr 2019 #41

still_one

(92,061 posts)
1. For the most part i have done that for sometime, at least in regard to the national news outlets
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:57 PM
Mar 2019

Newsapers i read though

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. I don't watch any national news shows or any political based shows going on over 2 years, and
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 01:57 PM
Mar 2019

will only read articles/stories/reports of interest. The media tendency to overinflated and the rampant hyperbole of it all forced to stop. Gotta say its all good, but do miss the Sunday morning shows. Will not watch any until democrats retake govt 100%.


my blood pressure never better

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
3. I'm sorry. It's OUR country too.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:06 PM
Mar 2019

I love you. There's more of us than them. We just don't laugh out loud about evil, so we aren't as obvious.
We are here. We are here. We are here. (Horton Hears a Who.)

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
4. I know when you have these experiences face to face it is quite disheartening. My co-worker takes
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:07 PM
Mar 2019

the same pleasure as yours. And so does my family.... It's sad really.

This is how I deal with it. In the online world I may say I hate a Republican do all sorts of hyperbole..whatever.
But in real life I don't 'hate' them. That would be crazy. That would make me exactly what I supposedly don't want to be.

I use humor to stab back at them and it's done with a smile. When they say they 'pissed off a lib' or 'owned a lib' my standard response is yes that is the Republican Party platform and nothing else.

I have no problems conversing w/ R's or Deplorables in real life but it always ends the same....they can't handle real talk and real facts and they get all pissy and shut it down. So all the bullshit about reaching out....we are the ones who do it...they don't.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
10. That's a fact. And they know, and count on it.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:47 PM
Mar 2019

And the belief that at the end of the day, those "libs", will fix what they broke. We continue to fix stuff bc of the older folks next door, or your siblings, or your parents, but, most of all, bc we appreciate what we have. And we realize like anything that grows, it needs to be tended to lovingly. America.

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
6. As the great Michelle Obama said 'when others go low, we go high' (I'm paraphrasing/recalling...
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:16 PM
Mar 2019

exact words with my feeble memory). One of the greatest sayings I think ever.

Ohiogal

(31,909 posts)
7. I know exactly how you feel.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:27 PM
Mar 2019

All this ugliness affects me in much the same way.

I seem to find solace in reading DU posts because it reaffirms to me that there are many others out there who feel as I do.

But, anyway,

here’s a hug.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. The news may be 24/7, but I am not.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:36 PM
Mar 2019

Huge major reason we turned the tvs off, and eventually got rid of them.
Now I have to pro-actively search for any news, on line, via DU and Twitter and a few preferred bloggers.
It's a good feeling being in control of what I let into my head, much more relaxing.
Reading news stories is much more serene than hearing people on the tube yell at me.
It also takes way less time to get the info.

If you spend a few minutes just analyzing a news show, you will notice how hyped up it is, a wall of sound, a screen full of images, all designed to grab your attention, and of course that will raise your BP. Then the commercials come on and really raise the volume.

I'm old school, from when tv news was 30 minutes at night of someone like Cronkite reading the news into the camera, no background sounds, no blaring music, just his quite voice reporting details. If you wanted more info, you did what you still can do now, read about the story, in a news paper, or in our case now, online.
But we controlled who we let into our heads, and in what manner.



llmart

(15,532 posts)
13. You articulated it in a very good way.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:59 PM
Mar 2019

I was going to respond something similar, but yours is so much better. I don't have cable and I don't watch the regular, over the air news programs either. That's the beauty of the internet. I can or cannot go search for the news IF and WHEN I want it. I, too, am of the era where you got 30 minutes (actually less minus the ads) of national news once in the evening. I make the choice of what goes into my mind/body, not someone else. I stopped subscribing to a newspaper years ago.

I would never allow all that negativity into my life at this point. I value my health and well-being too much to allow anyone else to control it. Face it, it's all about money making anyway. The news outlets are always ginning up controversy to keep you watching.

Anyway, great post.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,864 posts)
9. This is how I handle it.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:45 PM
Mar 2019

First I don't engage with them unless it can't be avoided.


Second I am always polite and kind. It is.hard for them to call me one of those awful liberals when they are just nice people who are kind to you


I ignore them if they get nasty. I never start a fight. And I never let them know I am getting upset.


Laffy Kat

(16,373 posts)
12. You are not alone, redstatatebluegirl.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 02:51 PM
Mar 2019

I think I'm about to cut the cord to my DISH because everything bothers me, even the shows satirizing the GOP. It is hard to be out in the world today. I've been trying to force myself to walk and exercise and spend more time with my dogs. If it wasn't for my pets and my job, I would spend all day in bed watching youtube and Netflix.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
14. OKC? My first thought was the Murrah Building bombing & all those dead toddlers. That showed ...
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 03:24 PM
Mar 2019

...those libs, didn't it? When that happened I just wept and wept. I'm choking up now just at the memory.

I know you can't engage with *holes at work and it's too late anyway to answer back, but really -- I wonder if the *holes can even connect the dots.

I'm so sorry about your health. You are not alone. You are sure to get some helpful hints in this thread, so here's mine: I started listening to my favorite music again.

My husband works from home and has always insisted on silence, but you know what? This new house has really solid interior doors, so I just closed the door to his study and turned on my iPod. I have quite a large musical library, and decided to run the entire Celtic section, which runs to hundreds and hundreds of folk songs. Within the first day I found myself getting out of my chair and sorting out several boxes of stuff left over from the move (and there are many more--we lived in our old home for 35 years), so the back room now has much more space. The garage is horrible and intimidating as hell, but I now know how I can manage it: with music.

My body moved. My mind cleared. I felt a lot less numb. After I run out of Celtic music, I may start in on Bach. Or maybe American country music. Whatever -- I just need to do it. I wish I had never given it up because my husband complained.

You are still working, so your time and space are structured differently. Still, try to get in a chunk of music every day. Studies have shown that it raises endorphins, changes the brain waves, helps people with Parkinson's move better -- anyway, give it a shot. Replace tv news with music, limit time on DU, and all the best on cleansing the cultural toxicity from your being.



notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
28. I have tons of music which I am listening to again. Last night listened to the temptations and
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 06:16 PM
Mar 2019

Danced. Rand b is easy to dance to.

mahina

(17,616 posts)
37. Lovely to read this.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 05:42 AM
Apr 2019

I hope you can have a listen to the music I posted downthread. I’ll check out Celtic music too.

Keeping the vibrations high. Aloha.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
15. Politics is making everyone fucking crazy right now.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 03:29 PM
Mar 2019

Sometimes it's best to turn everything off and go outside for a while. The fresh air is good for you.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
17. Go hang out in the DU Lounge
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 06:00 PM
Mar 2019

It's a very relaxing place, with humor and lots of cat and dog videos. You can still check in to see what the main headlines are in the other DU sections, but you don't have to read them or even think about them!

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
18. We're in the middle of another of our periodic nation-convulsing changes.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 06:05 PM
Mar 2019

In the 1860's, the South and their wanna-be feudal overlords lost their free workforce, for which they've never forgiven the good guys.

In the 1870's, these same people reacted with extreme violence against their former slaves being equal citizens with voting rights.

In the 1960's, another major upheaval occurred when minorities, technically granted civil rights but treated as de facto second-class citizens, began standing up for the enforcement and recognition of their rights as equal citizens.

Now, the erstwhile white power structure, which has held its fevered, greedy, single-minded power now for nearly four hundred years, is seeing itself falling into the minority. They won't go down without a lot of bloody violence first.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,088 posts)
22. Sad to say, humans are gonna be humans...
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:51 AM
Mar 2019

Ask any Roman. The social delusion is that we are something we are not, and the problems inherent with that delusion is that there seems to be little reality when the topic of human beings comes up. I would prefer that we start working on creating a better society as a whole instead of creating a fiction where humans are supposed to be some kind of angelic creatures who are 'beyond' base emotions and those who cannot control their social interactions are 'abberations'. One of my favorite sayings was in response to a statement that we as society should be warned about serious threats to our very lives, because a person is smart and can handle it. The response was: "A 'person' is smart, 'people' are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it!". Is it that we will always end up in a version of 'Lord of the Flies'? I wish I knew, but so far we always seem like we do.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
23. K&R. Few are willing to look at our evolutionary history....
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:08 PM
Mar 2019

and accept that it lives within each and every one of us....the good, the bad and the ugly.

When, as an amateur observer, I finally realized that we all hold millions of years of history in our genetics, I gained some peace with human behavior.

............

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
24. Sometimes an old saying is appropriate....
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:13 PM
Mar 2019

When someone is obviously trying to antagonize, I try to never take the bait and just say "sorry you feel that way".

Brings on instant deflation of ego with little effort......

Boomerproud

(7,941 posts)
25. There is some good advice in the replies.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:24 PM
Mar 2019

I am having the same health problems as you and I know it's from 45 being more insufferable by the hour. I don't have anyone to vent my pain to so please rely on your husband and do what you have to do to be well.

tetedur

(820 posts)
26. If Trump succeeds in making us hate, dividing the country against itself, he wins.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:57 PM
Mar 2019

Hatred makes us weaker and when our rage over what he is doing to hurt people boils up we must find a way to get a grip on ourselves and steer that energy into something positive.

I blame those who voted for this con man for what is happening so I hate them for it. I have not had any confrontations but I avoid contact like the plague.

I can't do much about it. I can vote. I can write my representatives in Congress but like you I live in a red state and my reps are hopeless.

But just lately I've tried to forgive his supporters for my own sake. I take more walks, try to exercise and avoid the news when I can.

His supporters are deluded, ignorant and sadomasochists. I thank God I'm not one of them. He isn't going to ruin the time I left on this earth by making me wallow in hate or anger.

He's quite pathetic and so are his followers. The truth will come out. Time is a revelator.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
27. "There are days when I find myself getting angry in ways I have never gotten angry before." Whatever
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 06:08 PM
Mar 2019

you do, don't express your anger here. You will be ruthlessly insulted and derided.

locks

(2,012 posts)
31. In my whole long life I never thought of giving up
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:34 PM
Mar 2019

on my country and the many good people who have spent their lives trying to make our world a better place for our children. But these last three years have been so shameful and sad I see little hope for saving our planet from destruction.

Tumbulu

(6,268 posts)
33. I feel sickened as well.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:06 PM
Mar 2019

And I listen to classical music, avoid all news and think about my work. Which I have aplenty.

I think about how this has been set up for over 30 years of the hate media beginning with Rush Limbaugh.

My only consolation is that maybe the millennials will begin to vote.

poladydi

(2 posts)
34. Poladydi
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:59 PM
Mar 2019

You did need to vent as do many people, even I do. It helps somewhat to have someone listen and really know how you feel. Lately I have been feeling the hatred too and feeling my blood pressure go up at the same time. I rarely listen to news because I have to mute his voice , or change the station as head pervert-in-chief appears. I read the news more as to avoid looking or hearing him. Good luck with surviving however much longer this travesty of a president continues. Even when he's gone, his fascist party will still be here and they are bent on destroying democracy just as much.

Aussie105

(5,332 posts)
35. Frustration
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:26 AM
Apr 2019

gets your blood pressure up every time.

There are people who aren't very bright out there, who feel 'liberals' are the new enemy holding them back from the American Dream.
They enjoy what Trump does, because cutting health spending, messing about with the tax system, cutting education, etc, sticks it to them 'liberals'.

But the penny must drop soonish, surely? Trump's attack on the American standard of living affects everybody. Are the MAGAts so dumb that they don't see they are affected too?

Don't try to talk them into being sensible, your blood pressure won't like it.

mahina

(17,616 posts)
36. Take heart. Zoom out sometimes and remember we are all stardust. 💫
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 05:20 AM
Apr 2019

Here’s something beautiful:



And from close to home:








We are being intentionally divided against each other by cynical individuals for their benefit. Those men are not the victors, they are fools. I feel sorry for them. I’d be affronted and tempted to engage too but - We go high.

Protect your beautiful heart with music, art, literature, friends. I’ll be yours.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
42. These are spectacular selections.That's definitely going to be my next set when I'm done with Celts
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:49 PM
Apr 2019

I don't have nearly as many Hawaiian albums as Celts, but I have Slack Key Guitar Masters, Iz of course, and a lot of older albums. Ulili E is one of my favorites.

One thing I seem to have lost was my link to a wonderful one-song musical video set in many locations around Hawai'i. Hell if I can remember the name now, but I loved it so much I wrote to the creators and asked if there was a way to buy a copy of the vid. They said no -- apparently it was not exactly a commercial release. I'll have to go into You Tube and see if it made it into my list.

Pau for now. Me ke aloha.

mahina

(17,616 posts)
43. Hawai'i aloha!
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:57 PM
Apr 2019


Oli e, oli e...Mai na ahe ahe makani e pa mai nei, mau ke aloha no Hawai’i

Aloha no dear Hekate

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
44. Sistah, you just made me cry all ovah my iPad screen. This is a later version of exactly that song..
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:22 PM
Apr 2019

I will try to not lose it again.

Ack. Still crying. Thank you.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
45. Wait wait wait: just found Kaulana Na Pua from Project Kuleana again...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:39 PM
Apr 2019

Do you know that one? Lots of countryside. Originally a mele of opposition to annexation 1893.



When I said "earlier version" that was weird, because it's not the same song at all, just the same era of composition.

mahina

(17,616 posts)
46. Oh my God, I love that mele.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:41 PM
Apr 2019

It makes me tear up too. Aloha sis.
‘Ai pohaku indeed, home and across Amelika.

mahina

(17,616 posts)
47. Oh Palani ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:42 PM
Apr 2019

Quite a choir wherever they went, Gabby, Uncle Moe, Palani, Nedward, Skippy, Iz 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

themaguffin

(3,816 posts)
39. I feel you. I take breaks too. I only watch small portions of news these days. More watching does no
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 08:51 AM
Apr 2019

good and provides little more insight.

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
40. I can't turn away from any of it.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:34 PM
Apr 2019

I am fascinated, albeit morbidly, watching the collapse of everything America once pretended to stand for. Something like Woody Harrleson watching the end of everything at the end of the movie "2012" but with "triste", rather than "joie de vie".

spanone

(135,791 posts)
41. I think the country is collectively 'sick' these days.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:36 PM
Apr 2019

the daily crap from this 'president' wears on everyone, every minute of every day.

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