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swag

(26,487 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 10:40 AM Mar 2019

Gaming out the counterintelligence part of Mueller's probe

https://www.justsecurity.org/63437/the-missing-piece-of-the-mueller-investigation/


by Joshua Geltzer and Ryan Goodman
March 29, 2019

Excerpt:

"If the report delivered by Mueller to Barr didn’t include the counterintelligence piece of Mueller’s investigation (or included only pieces of intelligence directly relevant to the potential criminal conspiracy), where is that body of counterintelligence analysis? How else might it get shared with Congress or the public?

One possibility emerged within 24 hours of Barr’s letter going to Congress. “Senior officials” told news outlets that the FBI anticipates briefing congressional leaders on Mueller’s counterintelligence findings. Oral briefings, rather than written findings, provided in closed session may have been deemed by Mueller more appropriate given genuine classification concerns—especially if aspects of the investigation remain ongoing and transferred to a different part of the Justice Department with Mueller’s office winding down. If so, then it may be up to congressional leaders to determine how much of Mueller’s findings in this area can appropriately be shared with the American people, working with the executive branch on classification questions. Alternatively, after providing full briefings in closed sessions, Mueller or FBI officials could potentially provide less detailed, unclassified versions of such briefings in open session.

There are other possibilities, too. Perhaps Mueller has written something separate from the report called for by the special counsel regulations, and that written product is now in the hands of Justice Department officials. If so, members of Congress will surely call for it to be released at least to Congress. Or perhaps Mueller closed the counterintelligence investigation long ago and simply does not have major findings to report. That, too, should be ferreted out by continuing questions from the Hill.

All that said, we must leave room for the possibility that Mueller’s report does contain his counterintelligence findings, and that Barr’s carefully drafted letter chose to focus only on the criminal side of things."


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Gaming out the counterintelligence part of Mueller's probe (Original Post) swag Mar 2019 OP
It still appears that we are living by conjecture. Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #1
Aren't we always. swag Mar 2019 #2
Stone is indicted by Mueller for obstruction and perjury Mc Mike Mar 2019 #3

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
3. Stone is indicted by Mueller for obstruction and perjury
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 01:06 PM
Mar 2019

he committed to impede the investigation into the connections between the 'Rump campaign - Russian Gov', in crimes of intel and counter intel hacks.

He campaigned for Rump saying that he had all this classified intel that showed Rump's opponent should be locked up, he got it from the Russians, who hacked it from Clinton's Secretariat and her political campaign against Rump.

Now he's saying he never got any intel from the Russians at all, while at the same time, the candidate he worked for wants to use all that non-existent intel to lock his political opponent up.

When Stone helped Rump run for office, there was all this secret classified us intel stuff that we shouldn't get to see, except Rump campaigner Stone and the russians got ahold of it and released it. It was a real scandal how much loose intel Hilary left hanging around. Someone should get indicted (besides Stone, I mean).

Rump's buddies, Stone and the Russians, wanted to show all the secrets. As far as they're concerned, we should see everything about US intel and counterintel methods and sources, when it's Dem government sources or non-partisan career staff sources. That's what Stone said while working for the Rump campaign.

The actual loose intel, was a little hazy, though. No big secrets or scandals, sources or methods exposed. While our intel, counterintel, and law enforcement people were actually monitoring Russians who kept connecting with Rump campaigners.

Now, Rump A.G. Barr said we shouldn't be allowed to see the Mueller Report, it's too highly classified, too many methods and sources would be revealed, I guess.

But we should definitely look into investigating the whole Dem administration before Rump's, all the political appointees and the career staff of the Department of Justice, FBI, intel, counterintel, Judiciary, and law enforcement. We should definitely have a public disclosure of the sources and methods they used to catch Rump, Stone, Flynn, Manafort, Cohen in all their dealings with Russia. How did they find out about all the Rump Russia ties?

Stone's trial on Mueller's indictment hasn't happened, but Rump's new AG told Mueller that we should have a report issued, (which won't be shown to the public, coz classified). That report needed to come out before Rump's old employee Stone, who was indicted by Mueller, goes on trial. Goes on trial for saying he lied about getting hacked intel and counterintel info from the Russians which he used to sway the US into voting for Rump.

He never even talked to the Russians, just lied and said he did to help Rump get elected. All that top secret intel the russians hacked from Clinton, he never even saw it, he just lied to Mueller and said he got it from friends who contacted Russia. There's no top secret intel he got because of Clinton's carelessness,

and she should be locked up for her criminal carelessness.

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