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sweetroxie

(776 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 04:55 PM Mar 2019

Anyone ever have open heart surgery?

I have "regurgitation" of the mitral valve which means that when my heart pumps blood, it can't do it efficiently and I find myself very short of breath. Often. The only "remedy" is open heart surgery. Pretty scary. Anyone have any experience?

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Anyone ever have open heart surgery? (Original Post) sweetroxie Mar 2019 OP
I came close, but escaped it DFW Mar 2019 #1
(As an asided) Liberal In Texas Mar 2019 #10
Try this if all else fails: DFW Mar 2019 #12
Thanks...will order! n/t Liberal In Texas Mar 2019 #13
Let me know what you think! DFW Mar 2019 #14
Kindle version too! Dazbog Mar 2019 #20
I don't know if "Time Cellar" is the poor man's vision of anything else DFW Mar 2019 #21
Bypass in May. Takes a bit of time to recover. Liberal In Texas Mar 2019 #2
Get a second opinion, and a third. They've gotten very good at what they do, but there are known... Hekate Mar 2019 #3
My father did. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #4
My husband had it 2/13/2012 - here were our experiences Paula Sims Mar 2019 #5
These!!! Ms. Toad Mar 2019 #6
I did last year, end of May 4TheArts Mar 2019 #7
How ironic...May 11 for me. Liberal In Texas Mar 2019 #11
I forgot to mention... sweetroxie Mar 2019 #8
Ah. You have some issues. Liberal In Texas Mar 2019 #9
Thank you to everyone sweetroxie Mar 2019 #16
My Mother had Texasgal Mar 2019 #15
What you remember about is fine. sweetroxie Mar 2019 #17
She had a pig part put in Texasgal Mar 2019 #18
Mr. Shraby had to have 6 bypasses all at once. He came home within a week, shraby Mar 2019 #19

DFW

(54,335 posts)
1. I came close, but escaped it
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:00 PM
Mar 2019

While I was getting my stents put in, they saw I had 2 coronary arteries 99% blocked, and had an ambulance waiting outside the door to send me to immediate bypass surgery if they saw the slightest complication. Luckily, they didn#t, so I escaped it--THAt time anyway!

But a friend of mine in London had it done, and he had pretty much the same thing you do. It was apparently routine, and he is now back at work, flying around the world (he is 67 like I am) as if he were 35 again (NOT like me!). I stick to Europe and North America for the most part. He keeps running off to Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong and Tokyo. Must be nice, but I just don't have the time.

Liberal In Texas

(13,542 posts)
10. (As an asided)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 12:06 AM
Mar 2019

We've tried to get the Dallas library to put you novel in the system. I don't think they can find it.

I'd like to read it.

DFW

(54,335 posts)
14. Let me know what you think!
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 12:56 PM
Mar 2019

I got a few very favorable plugs from well-knowns, two of which have since passed on (Stan Lee and Adrian Cronauer), and I am as proud of them as much as I am of the other favorable reviews. Stan Lee, of course, was in his inimitable sarcastic style, as always, and Adrian was generously eloquent, as always. He was so NOT like the portrayal of him in the Robin Williams film, it's night and day. When I first met him, I couldn't believe that film was really supposed to be about him.

 

Dazbog

(39 posts)
20. Kindle version too!
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:53 PM
Mar 2019

Thanks! I'll start reading after I finish "Last Chance Lawyer" by William Bernhardt, who I have loved and admired him as the poor mans John Grisham.

DFW

(54,335 posts)
21. I don't know if "Time Cellar" is the poor man's vision of anything else
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 05:44 AM
Mar 2019

I have had it described to me as a science-fiction, wine-lover's coin collector's political historical romance.

And that is about as accurate as any other description I have heard.

At least Stan Lee, Howard Dean and Adrian Cronauer all liked it, if that is of any use to you.

Liberal In Texas

(13,542 posts)
2. Bypass in May. Takes a bit of time to recover.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:09 PM
Mar 2019

I'm doing fine these days. However I just found out the 62 year old cardio-therapist I went to during recovery dropped dead in Nov. So you just never know.

If you need the surgery done, get it done! Medical expertise in this area has come a long way.

Hekate

(90,633 posts)
3. Get a second opinion, and a third. They've gotten very good at what they do, but there are known...
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:09 PM
Mar 2019

...potential side effects or complications, too.

Best of luck.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
4. My father did.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:11 PM
Mar 2019

CABG, and then an aortic valve replacement at about age 60. We lost count of the stents. He died when he was 80. so I'd have to say he survived the surgeries. I'm not going to tell you it was fun and the highlight of his week. But his quality of life definitely improved and he made it a long time after the procedure. Even picked up a couple of part-time jobs to avoid the "honey-dos".

Also, I work with disabled people for a living. It's a field which kind of pre-selects for working-age people who have problems like that, so I see a lot of them. Some get better and return to work, some don't--and not necessarily because of the valve.

It's serious surgery, but it usually helps either a little or a lot. I wouldn't be happy if my cardiologist told me we had to do it, but I'd put up with it and expect it to make things better.

Paula Sims

(877 posts)
5. My husband had it 2/13/2012 - here were our experiences
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 05:29 PM
Mar 2019

Hi there,
Let me start with my husband is fine and is doing well. He was 58 at the time.

Above all, prayers to you and your care givers. I say this was OUR experience because I have advice to you and your caregiver. It's not all pretty but it's true. And keep in mind we had "not the best" experiences with the hospital staff but the surgeon was wonderful and it was life-saving. My husband had mitral valve repair with replaced cords and an ablation - he had about 5 months to live prior to the surgery.

So, in no particular order. . .

You
1. Make sure you have a list of meds you can and cannot take. If you can't take them - FOR WHATEVER REASON - call it an allergy and make sure it's in writing. My husband couldn't take Lorepressor because it caused nightmares and needed Bystolic. The hospital wanted to cut corners and I insisted they give him Bystolic. They refused and I brought it from home. The ONE time they did give him Lopressor - he had a nightmare. Not good a week after open-heart.
2. Don't tell them you're anxious or nervous. DON'T. STOP. Just pain or no pain. If you do they might not give you the pain meds you really do need.
3. Don't worry about taking pain meds. Do it. Ask for it.
4. You might have trouble breathing and it might be because the steri-strips are on too tight or you have a stitch in the wrong place. SAY IT. You are your best advocate.
5. As you as you can after surgery - BREATHE. DEEPLY. The hospital is NOT the place to get pneumonia and you will if you let the water sit in your lungs.
6. No one warned us about possible opthamolic migraines - my husband has flashes of light but no pain. IF you do (about a month or two after surgery), see an ophthalmologist
7. Your cartilage might not grow back together perfectly 100% (like 3 years later) and it might creak (ie crack knuckles). Sorry, it might be permanent.
8. Have someone you trust advocate for you. This is NOT the time to trust doctors or the hospitals. They will cut corners and you need someone to be your voice. Not the time for mamby-pamby attitudes.
9. OK, face it, you're going to have some pain. Even when they put you on morphine. But too much pain - INSIST on seeing the doctor.
10. Make sure you have lose-fitting upper garments. As you breathe, the fabric across the scar area might be VERY uncomfortable. My husband wore colonial/pirate (think Seinfeld) shirts for about 3 months
11. Coughing, sneezing, bowel movements, laughing will be painfully hell. Have a pillow with you at all times for months. Grab and hug the pillow against your chest. You'll figure it out.
12. Months later, if you still are depressed, anxious, whatever, then see someone. It could be the result of being on the bypass machine. It can be dealt with, but again, DON'T SAY A THING ABOUT IT DURING YOUR HOSPITAL STAY - they might withhold meds.


Your Caregiver
1. You're going to feel helpless. It's hard seeing someone you love go through the pain and be on morph ene and be hooked up to all those machines. Trust in a higher power (OK, Flying Spaghetti monster) that all will be well and you'll know what to do.
2. Get used to some sleepless nights. It's OK
3. Know what the patient wants as far as directives. Sorry, but be prepared.
4. Know what the patient takes as medications and what they're allergic to. STICK TO IT. The doctors will try to go cheap and they are your advocate
5. If it is your spouse, get advanced directives. You will be the patient while the patient is on pain meds - ADVOCATE FOR THEM
6. DON'T TRUST HOSPITALS. Sorry, it's true. If the patient doesn't want generics for meds, make sure they don't get them. Bring meds with you but not into the hospitals. You might have to provide them yourselves.
7. Ignore visiting hours if you need to. You legally have a right to be with the patient no matter what. Start using the "my lawyer says" and don't back down. You are the patient's voice.
8. Learn as much as you can about the procedure and what to do.
9. TRUST YOUR SPIDY SENSE and SPEAK UP. Not the time to be shy.


When are you going in? PM me and hubby and I will do what we can to help

Good luck. You'll be fine. Just know you have a road ahead of you

Paula

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
6. These!!!
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 06:51 PM
Mar 2019

Fresh off of a 3-day hospital experience, when pain on a scale of 12/10 was an issue . . .

You

1. Make sure you have a list of meds you can and cannot take. If you can't take them - FOR WHATEVER REASON - call it an allergy and make sure it's in writing.

Make sure the timing is in writing, as well as specific instructions for "must be taken alone." The hopspital med list for me included meds I have NEVER taken, and one med that is always taken at bedtime kept showing up as the wrong version (regular v. extended release) and at a mealtime. Another pair that are to be taken together with nothing else for at least 30 minutes kept being offered in combination with other meds. I worked with the floor supervisor and the pharmacist and still my going home list include the wrong form of a med I do take, and meds given at the wrong time/in the wrong combination. A complaint is pending with the ombudsman. I'm an alert and oriented patient - and this could have been deadly with different meds and/or a confused patient. {In sharing this story with my doctor, we learned his mother had been recently hospitalized, she was not alert and oriented, and they nearly killed her by giving PRN (as needed) meds as frequently as she was permitted to have them - regardless of whether she needed them or not.}

3. Don't worry about taking pain meds. Do it. Ask for it.

And ask for it before you really need it. Most hospitals are so understaffed that the response will be delayed. Routinely, I would push my call button and someone who was unable to assist came in and turned it off. (I later learned they have to respond in a certain period of time, so the non-helpful person stopped their ticking response clock.) Morphine was delayed for an hour one time. (If you don't know - they only give morphine when the pain is bad enough that you don't have time to wait for a pill to kick in)

8. Have someone you trust advocate for you. This is NOT the time to trust doctors or the hospitals. They will cut corners and you need someone to be your voice. Not the time for mamby-pamby attitudes.

When I got out of the hospital, my doctor asked if I was a "good patient." My spouse and I simultaneously said, "No." Largely, becasue I was not a "good patient," I got what I needed it.

Your Caregiver
7. Ignore visiting hours if you need to. You legally have a right to be with the patient no matter what. Start using the "my lawyer says" and don't back down. You are the patient's voice.

We have a family policy that NO ONE stays alone in the hospital unless they are fully able to fend for themselfes. That includes overnights. I stayed in the hospital for a month before the medication I needed to be on was approved for home use. I saw way too much of what happens to people who are unable to fend for themselves. It's NOT pretty.

9. TRUST YOUR SPIDY SENSE and SPEAK UP. Not the time to be shy.

Sometimes it doesn't even have to be spidey. My favorite moment (although I was in too much pain to appreciate it at the time) was when I had given very clear instructions about the need to keep my knee and toes aligned when moving my leg at all (without too much cringe-inducing detail - spiral fracture; jagged bone digging into flesh). The nurse immediately grabbed my knee and rotated it upward wihout lifting my toe. I yelled stop. She kept moving. I screamed. She yelled at me that I couldn't scream like that because there were kids around. So my temporarily role-reversed-daughter immediately jumped in: "She told you to move the knee and toe together, you only moved the knee. She told you to stop. You didn't. She screamed because you F***ing hurt her." (I don't normally appreciate my daughter swearing, but it was appropriate at that moment.)

Later, we found out that she had made a critical mistake of wetting the splint before trying to apply it. She was so frantic to keep goin because once you wet the splint it starts hardening, so she didn't have any time to move slowly, or listen to what would minimize my pain. Complaint is pending on that one too.


Good news - I'm now 10 weeks out, walking without much pain or limp, and my ortho guy did a fantastic job. Even though it's different stuff - you'll be fine as long as you have good support that can help keep you well and as comfortable as possible in the hospital.

4TheArts

(75 posts)
7. I did last year, end of May
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 06:52 PM
Mar 2019

I had gone to the Asheville VA for stress test and it led in Few days to triple bypass. Takes some patience with yourself in learning how much you can do and how much help needed. I was fortunate this VA has a rehab care facility adjacent where I spent ten days and learned getting up and down, dressing, bathing etc, while my wife got a good respite before I returned home. Couple weeks later I was showering on my own. Itchiness around stitches was nuisance. Took about a month to get past. Drove myself one month after surgery. Actual time in an ICU and regular ward after surgery was most of six days, then the more independent rehab place. If you go home say a week after surgery someone Ned’s to be up for the helper role for at least a couple weeks.

Liberal In Texas

(13,542 posts)
11. How ironic...May 11 for me.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 12:44 AM
Mar 2019

CABG x 5 as noted elsewhere in this post.

It was several weeks for recovery enough to drive or feel like a human being again. My wife did dinners and helped me around. I didn't know it would take so long.

Coming up on a year. Am I back to as I was before? No. I don't know if I ever will be. But if I had kept going the way I was a sudden heart attack or stroke would have taken me out.

I'm OK. You should be OK too. (Cause it's better than dead..lol)

sweetroxie

(776 posts)
8. I forgot to mention...
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 07:09 PM
Mar 2019

That I'm 77 and I don't have a caregiver. I live alone. That's part of what scares me. Along with the fact that I have kidney failure that requires daily dialysis and I'm a well-controlled diabetic. I also have A fib.

Liberal In Texas

(13,542 posts)
9. Ah. You have some issues.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:59 PM
Mar 2019

I was 68. I have a wife who took care of me after the hospital. I don't have diabetes. I have never had a heart attack. They only found out about my blockages because I was having Afib and PVC issues.

I also think I've had a great hospital and good doctors. The CABG x 5 didn't cure my Afib so later I also had an ablation.

But I'm doing damn good. Ride my bicycle and will work my video job when that comes up. And will finish the bloody 1/350 scale Titanic model if it kills me.

You might need to get a nurse to come in and take care of you for after care for a few weeks. Some of this may be covered in Medicare especially if you have an advocate in the hospital or the doctors office. It's a pain in the ass for awhile, but geeze...it's better than being dead. Get yourself fixed!

Texasgal

(17,042 posts)
18. She had a pig part put in
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 01:35 PM
Mar 2019

and we laughed and laughed about that..

But on a serious note: My Mom is young at 66 years old. She also has Afib. You are definitely going to need a caregiver. It takes a good long while to get better. Mom spent 8 months sleeping on a recliner because she couldn't lay down in bed. She had quite alot of pain and even now tends to get sore from scar tissue in her chest. She's much better though! She couldn't walk to the bathroom without getting winded!

Post-surgical it has taken my Mom almost a year to get back to normal. If there is anything I can suggest please make sure you do cardiac rehab after your surgery as soon as your doctor allows you to.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
19. Mr. Shraby had to have 6 bypasses all at once. He came home within a week,
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:31 PM
Mar 2019

an had absolutely no pain. He didn't even need a baby aspirin. (Still can't figure that out.)

He went into surgery around 6 a.m. and got out around 3:30-4:00.
Make sure you are prescribed a mood elevator. Open heart surgery tends to make people extremely depressed. He said he felt like crying all the time until they kicked in.

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